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when it comes down to it if a man is marrying a woman cos he loves her, she could waddle down the aisle with make-up painted on by a 1year old and hair half shaved off... if she's got a glint in her eyes and is smiling he'll be overwhelmed with love and happiness
Can I just speak up for the shallow males on here, and say I might have a problem with this.
+1, I'd leg it!
xiphon - MemberPeople will blame everything under the sun - apart from themselves - for their fatness.
I blame you
People will blame everything under the sun - apart from themselves - for their fatness.
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Where's iDave when you need him?
Just a point of order - slimming world and weight watchers are not fad diets...
The red day/green day thing was a bit bizarre, but my wife's doing the new Extra Easy one and it's actually pretty sensible. It does pretty much boil down to "eat fewer Yorkies, cheese and cake, drink less wine", but it gave her a way of seeing that.
My wife also on Slimming World doing the 'extra easy' she has lost more than 4 stone in a year. The amount she eats is unbelievable but it works!
I think she's lost just over a stone and a half in 12 weeks or so. Really sustainable too at 2lb or so a week, with the odd week where she maintains being followed by a 4lb loss.
Only problem is, I'm losing weight too - 1/2 a stone so far, dipping me under 11 stone for the first time in a good while. 🙂
Sounds like the Cambridge diet, I did it for a while a couple of years back.
I was 17st 10lb and it gave me a very quick start to weight loss, which motivated me to do more. Weaned myself off it after loosing two stone and now follow a healthy exercise/ diet plan to maintain my 15st 7lb.
My wife did it too and it enabled her to loose sufficient weight that she didn't feel embarrassed when taking up exercise - she now rides 50 miles a week on her road bike.
Worked for us, and a few others I know.
wanted to remind the laydeez out there that some of us are sensitive to such jibes in the way a lady might be
Been interesting seeing the shift in men becoming more self conscious in recent years? Not sure if it hasn't always been there though it's just that men feel more able to talk about it now?
Can I just speak up for the shallow males on here, and say I might have a problem with this.
Genuine LOL 🙂
If you want my advice, which you probably don't cos your a man and men are always right 🙂 , I would just be attentive. She's probably getting stressed about the wedding because every other Chuffing comment you get from everyone is along the lines of 'oh so are you going to try and lose weight for the big day' or every time you look at a biscuit 'oh you've got a wedding dress to get into don't forget' blah blah blah. I'm generally not one to get stressed out about stuff like that because I'm not that body conscious but it did start to make me a bit paranoid towards the end and so she's probably feeling this already if she's heading towards a faddy diet. My now hubby is amazing, if he knows I am feeling self conscious I always get asked if I've lost weight because I look fit or just says I look fit anyway. Helps a lot!
I'm here lurking, shaking my head in resigned disgust at the diet industry, the gullible and the iExcuse people.
These 'diets' encourage the rhythm method of girth control - that's how the companies make money, they know people go back after becoming heifers again on their normal processed carb daily eating.
Oh and I don't see it as shallow not fancying biffers. Though I'm aware that we all (including our partners) end up with the least ugly person who will tolerate being with us.
I concur with i dave, " diets" don't work. A food lifestyle change does. " oh goody I've reached my target weight, I'll go back to how I used to eat." Err no, that's how you got so big in the first place. 🙄
" oh goody I've reached my target weight, I'll go back to how I used to eat." Err no, that's how you got so big in the first place.
One thing I've been impressed with Slimming World about is that it's a sustainable 'diet' and that they have a maintenance programme. In fact, you get free membership if you stay within +/- a couple of pounds of the target weight.
agree re: slimming world they do seem to promote lifestyle changes rather than fad foods and they want people to be at the meetings saying 'I've lost the weight and kept it off', even if it is a minority who probably achieve this.
I am that 'friend of wife' who lost 4 stone on the Cambridge and then put it all back on...fail. It went back on over two yrs of studying and absolutely no exercise. I bottomed out (pardon the pun) about 8 wks ago and in a fit of madness went back to the extremely fat Cambridge advisor for more sugary shakes. I did this (sole source) for 4 wks and lost about 6lb a week. Although it is great for restoring control (or the illusion of it) it is far too un-natural a state to keep yourself in and the whole time your brain is screaming that it is not the right way to control weight gain/loss. I was really worried about my children seeing me behave that way too. My lovely friend had put on stones of weight whilst doing her degree and was very despondent when I recommended the Cambridge, she had seen me lose the 4st and it is really convincing for some (myself included). When we spoke again, she had lost 3 stone odd and felt great. She explained the diet and it just sounded too good to be true! I have been on it now for about 5 weeks (following the month of sole source) and out with the 1lb gain (which was nothing short of miraculous really) I have been consistently losing 4lb a week. HERE IN LIES THE RUB! I am sure it is my self destructive alter ego trying to drag me back to the biscuit barrel but I need to ask. Am I in any danger of harming myself with the lack of calcium from dairy, if I am not eating broccoli etc every day? I just need some reassurance. I am eating lots of veg and pulses but quite a lot of meat and eggs too. I miss fruit very much and worry that it is unnatural to limit such a positive type of food. I have rare craving for sugar but a spoon of peanut butter goes a long way. I feel that I can happily live this way but that nagging fear of simply replacing one disordered and harmful way of eating for another is ever present. There is no doubt that I am doing myself far less harm eating this way than how I was behaving to gain all that weight in the first place. The point is, I want to change forever, not for a year or two. I want to know that I am not causing issues for myself in the future. It really does feel too good to be true 🙂
sounds like a shit way to exist. there are free alternatives that will have you eating proper food.
I know someone that eats on alternate days, skips meals, generally eats strangely.
I've tried to iDiet them, they know all the science, but are simply not interested.
Sorry IDave, I meant that I came over to the IDave diet 5 wks ago and have been losing 4lb a week...lols. I had my mushroom, ham & cherry tomato omelette and my coffee with soya milk half an hour ago...I am happy a larry but need you to sooth me, and tell me i wont end up with brittle bones!!! Thanks so much for replying 🙂
Trouble is, in the last year i have lost over 5 stone through cutting out fatty foods and drinks, and excercising 3 or 4 times per week.
Got to say that that method doesn't seem to work for everyone. I can confirm that I don't eat fatty foods, rarely ever drink alcohol and all my home cooked foods are made almost entirely of veg and chicken with the occasional (once a week or so) small chocky bar lobbed in and get nowhere. I've been down the iDave route and it doesn't seem to work for me on a purely psychological basis - I spend 2-3 days dying for sugars, then lose it, then on my day off I get some sugars and regain the taste for it and start the cycle of irritating craving and hard work again. It works if I skip the day off, but only for a couple of weeks, then reverts. And it's surprisingly difficult or expensive to stick to which doesn't help, though some MTFUing is required of course!
I'm very interested in the outcome of this
http://www.****/femail/article-2051021/How-personal-trainer-obese--understand-fat-feels-like.html
They guy probably looks like most of us in his current state 8)
Bbob - I was never as big as him, but I let things go for a year once, and was 2.5 stone heavier than I am now - I know that the traditional 'eat less exercise more' is a very hard way to lose it.
coffeeking - i don't have the cheat days any more, as the amount of training I'm doing at the minute means I'm using simple carbs during and after training.
voltaire - replace the soy milk with cinnamon for an extra boost?
Bbob - I was never as big as him, but I let things go for a year once, and was 2.5 stone heavier than I am now - I know that the traditional 'eat less exercise more' is a very hard way to lose it.
Agreed.
iDave diet working for me currently 😀
I have a copy of your email to my friends husband (the one where you say you are not interested in hand holding - which made me lmao) which is where I got the whole omelette thing from too. I do the chilli's, the casseroles etc and have totally accepted soy milk now. Even on my day off I don't want cows milk or butter...just loads of fruit and yoghurt. Cinnamon in my coffee you say???
I saw my doc yesterday and she was really not happy that I was losing 4lb a week, in fact she kind of scared me a bit. When I did the Cambridge the first time round, I lost the 4st in a little over 6 weeks. It does seem to come off of me very quickly - i don't cheat. I felt really defensive and was justifying the diet by telling her what I eat every day but she was very staunch in her position that it was unhealthy to lose that amount so quickly. Even my Wii fit tells me off!!! 🙁
Am I in any danger of harming myself with the lack of calcium from dairy, if I am not eating broccoli etc every day?
Just wanted to point out to voltaire that for reasons too boring to go into here I've been more-or-less dairy free for about 15 years now, and I've not got broken anything in that time, so I reckon my skeleton is in reasonable nick. I don't live on broccoli and wouldn't say my diet is especially good or bad, just ok. Lots of cultures don't use cows' milk at all, and they don't have especially high incidence of random bone-snapping diseases. The idea that milk is the only source of calcium is milk-marketing toss, it's in all sorts of non-dairy stuff and often in a better form for absorption by the body too. Don't worry about it, eat a balanced diet and you'll be fine.
Incidentally, just before we got married my wife had to go on some medication that meant she couldn't drink milk or eat dairy. She lost so much weight in the four weeks before the big day that her dress was actually a bit big for her...
genuine question: Do people who lose/regain/lose this much weight end up with issues of their skin not fitting properly as it loses elasticity? Is there a non-surgical solution if it does happen?
They definitely do and this scared me silly too. I am very, very fortunate in that even being 4/5 stone overweight (I am 5' 7" and at my biggest was 15st 10lb) I remained very proportioned. Not any one area being massive (bum etc) just really big all over, but still curvy if you will. I assumed i would have loose skin but didn't/don't at all. I am 37 so not especially young and elasticated...just lucky I guess
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But what about voltaire's concerns?
I've lost a stone over the last 10 weeks on iDave, but have similar fears about missing out on some essential vitamin or mineral. Not founded on any hard info, mind you...
Also, I'm pretty happy with a stone off, although this seems like a MUCH slower pace of weight loss than has been quoted by a lot of guys on the forum. Have been keeping to the diet verbatim, with the exception of drinking red wine more than just with meals. Considerably more. Could be the wine, could be my original diet, could just be me, I guess... Another stone to go...
EDIT: too slow, but it's not just about calcium, is it?
if you're eating lots of veg, nuts, eggs and meat, I'm not sure what vitamins and minerals you'll be lacking?
I'm not sure either. My fear is founded solely on how everyone always says that fruit are so good for you! Popular opinion is of course not a good basis for worry, I'll be the first to admit!
EDIT: And I'll take iDave's post as saying that there is nothing to worry about. As that's what I want to hear, and am too lazy to investigate myself, I will ignore my immediate circle of friends and family and go with a stranger on a forum. Thanks!
Before doing iDave, what were you eating? Rationally, was that better than what you're eating now?
If you're really worried, "binge" on fruit on your day off?
I've challenged a few dietitians on what micro-nutrients fruit is the exclusive source of, nothing has been suggested. modern fruit is much sweeter and also available all year round. in the past it was an autumn thing hence the body responds to fructose by initiating fat storage for winter. hence i don't see how we need to have it daily.
I am so glad I came on here. I am not a forum person but this is ace. I am eating lots of nuts, veg, meat, eggs and quorn sausages, veggie mince etc and do feel that my diet is better than it has ever been. I totally binge on fruit on my Saturday so I guess I have nothing to worry about. It is very reassuring to see that other's have similar concerns though. It's just anxiety about relying on something which others are quick to label as a fad. The Cambridge is the only 'fad' diet I ever did and I came under a lot of criticism for it and then looked ridiculous when the weight went back on. This is far a more rational and balanced approach, without a doubt.
TheyEye...you are talking my language big time!!!
Thanks iDave, that's excellent news.
I think you've hit at the heart of the issue voltaire -- the fear is born out of other people's reactions when I tell them exactly what I'm doing. Most dismiss it as a fad, try to label it, or argue that I'm destroying myself, which irritates me, but at the same time sows seeds of doubt. Mostly because I'm an ignoramus.
I do have lots of friends that are doctors however, and generally their response to the philosophy (as I explain it) has been A LOT more measured, with no negative and couple positive reactions. That is comforting.
doctors however, and generally their response to the philosophy (as I explain it) has been A LOT more measured
doctors like evidence, lots of people think they 'know' stuff.
theyEye - just ask people what specific details their opinion is based on? you'll find out pretty quickly that they haven't a ****ing clue about anything nutrition related as is often apparent by how fat they themselves are. daily mail readers are the worst, but crumble quite well.
its all about the sell
the idave diet just doesnt sell, it requires you to think and change your eating habits and i think that requires more determination than dropping a meal for a milkshake and carrying on as you are.
each to their own
oh yeah and support your wife to be regardless of what she wants to do, until its her idea...
Tell her to just eat real, clean food. She will lose weight the right way then at least.
Meat, fish, fruit, veggies, good fats.
Tell her to just eat real, clean food
as opposed to pretend and dirty food?