[Closed] THE Gurkhas

Surprised all the bnp ukip mail/express readers lot are not kicking off... probably would have if they had not been laughing at the pain Broon was suffering as Patsy wacked it about his head in front of the press

Great news indeed.

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Because the public are generally in favour of it and if anyone opposed it like the BNP do then they would look even worse.

Because the public are generally in favour of it

Do you know ANYBODY who's not in favour of it? Specifically I mean?
I live in a town (Farnborough) which is full of Gurkhas. They are top, top, people. Everyone likes them, they never cause any trouble, they are friendly and polite, they fight for our country and regard it as an honour to do so.
Personally, I believe the more Ghurkas there are in the UK, the better off we'll be.

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What really, REALLY, [b]REALLY[/b] got my goat was how the spin t**ts made it out like Gordon Fing Brown was somehow the hero in the whole scenario. Not Joanna Lumley or any of the other people who have tirelessly campaigned on behalf of these deserving people.

From Jacquie Smith earlier this week...

She called Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who she had met earlier, a "brave man who has made today a brave decision on behalf of the bravest of the brave".

What really, REALLY, REALLY got my goat was how the spin t**ts made it out like Gordon F***ing Brown was somehow the hero in the whole scenario

Many other PMs have had the opportunity too grant the Gurkhas citizenship. Brown will be recorded as the one who actually did it.

PP - spot on. It really does worry me that we have a goverment that so out of touch with the public mood. And I got a queasy feeling seeing the brazen hypocrisy of broon pressing the flesh in his back garden yesterday.

Don't really think 4 years is long enough. Make it 10. If it's only 4 years you might dilute the quality of the regiment with some just signing up to get in to the Uk.

The point is they have served for the British Army - whether that's 4 years or 10 years they are entitled to live here as far as I'm concerned.

Even the one's who only served a couple of years have done more for this country than I ever have (and most other people as well)

I'm very pleased they are allowed to stay. Great news.

More Nepalese restaurants too, hopefully. Yum!

you might dilute the quality of the regiment with some just signing up to get in to the Uk.

There's thousands of applicants every year for a few hundred places so I don't think the quality is going to suffer.

Many other PMs have had the opportunity too grant the Gurkhas citizenship. Brown will be recorded as the one who actually did it.

But WHY did he do it? He didn't do it because he wanted it - he did it because the pressure to resist became too much. He deserves absolutely no praise for geetting it done.

If it's only 4 years you might dilute the quality of the regiment with some just signing up to get in to the Uk.

unlikely, competition is so strong already.

PeterPoddy - Member

Do you know ANYBODY who's not in favour of it? Specifically I mean?

@Petepoddy-You'd be suprised how many people are not in favour of it and see it as a job-they got paid and the jobs done. (Minority-but they do exist.)

I think it's great that so many people were behind them all the way! :lol:(The majority of the British public).

But WHY did he do it? He didn't do it because he wanted it - he did it because the pressure to resist became too much. He deserves absolutely no praise for geetting it done.

He did it because the public wanted it. Democracy in action. There's lots of things to clobber the PM on. Doing it on an issue that he's got right is a bit daft really.

Well I think it's correct that they are allowed to stay though not sure how many years is enough to qualify - any reason why 4 years? I like the way the French Foreign Legion works - anyone can apply to join and if they stay for, I think, 6 years they get citizenship.

Doing it on an issue that he's got right is a bit daft really.

But my point was that he is being made out to be the hero in this (by members of his party) but he isn't. Had HE fiercely campaigned for the Gurkhas to get them residency then fair enough. As you rightly pointed out, he did it because the public wanted it. The person who needs singling out for being a hero is Joanna Lumley.

"Do you know ANYBODY who's not in favour of it? Specifically I mean?"

Zaskar - so that'll be no then?

From Jacquie Smith earlier this week...

She called Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who she had met earlier, a "brave man who has made today a brave decision on behalf of the bravest of the brave".

Strange, according to the BBC, it was Ms Lumley that made the statement:

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8060607.stm ]

Ms Lumley, the actress who has been the public face of the campaign on behalf of the Gurkhas, said: "This is the welcome we have always longed to give."

She called Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who she had met earlier, a "brave man who has made today a brave decision on behalf of the bravest of the brave".

Or is that a mix-up or something?

Confuddling...

For what it is worth, I find it "interesting" and can understand why the government got this wrong. Predicting a Daily Mail backlash [i]in favour[/i] of increased non-white immigration would have been remarkably clever of them.

I have no idea how many people we are ultimately talking about, or how, in practice they will get on when settled here. Presumably they will be fine and a perfectly good addition to our diverse isle. If of course they are actually a pain in the neck and start dealing crack, gun-fighting in the streets and having hundreds of delinquent babies out of wedlock then presumably the same newspapers will ask why on earth they were allowed in in the first place and the ranting about the government "losing control of our borders" will be intolerable... 😉

Zasker-dave360 Lwets not go of into a rant about good news please. Just remind yourself about how Joanna Lumley constantly dammed Mr Brown with faint praise. Once she praised him after her first meeting with him then told the press the outcome of her meeting with Phil Willis (the nodding dog at the side of the tv picture), only a politician that wanted to look like a complete an unfeeling barstuard would not have let them in. Joanna Lumley for PM!

Dont get me wrong, i agree 100% that this is the correct decision.

However i have a little issue with this "They have served this country etc etc" comments. Dont get me wrong, i appreciate what they have done and i feel that they should be fairly treated and at the head of any queue to get into this country.

BUT, are we forgetting that these people do actually gain from being EMPLOYED by this country. I imagine they are earning MORE than they probably could if they were relying on their own countries employment, hence the massive enrolement lists. They are able to experience many many things better than their existance outside of the army. I expect job prospects arent that great for them elsewhere. So yes, we owe them our gratitude and we owe them the chance to live here, but i do not believe we need to go over the top.

They risked their lives for us. Yes And they were remunerated accordingly in the same manner they have for the past whatever years. They signed up on that basis and its not as though we changed the goalposts.

I apologise - it seems I had misread the piece. It was, indeed, Ms Lumley that made the comment about Brown.

Still doesn't alter the fact that it is her, not him that deserves the credit for it.

bimbler if you knew how hard it was to get into the gurkhas to just start the military training youd know the that isnt a worry 🙂

I second peter poddy, they are the most gracious, polite and respectful people who give everything to our country and they work damn hard even when they leave the forces I am so pleased, some of the oiks in the area we all live could learn from them...

Very few people would deny The Gurkhas have served this country in a fine way, and deserve the right to live here if they choose.But its right to consider what problems could arrise with this ruling.Not here in this country.Most people on this forum including myself would be proud to have a Gurkha move in next door,but in Nepal.
1.The British Army recruits in Nepal with the permission of the Nepalese Goverment.Would they be happy about loosing some of their best young men? To go and never come back. I'm pretty sure most Gurkhas would choose to settle in Britain at the end of their service.If the Nepalese goverment withdrew permission to recruit, doing the right thing might mean the end of the Gurkhas altogether?

2.Nepal is a poor country,an exodus of ex Gurkhas with their pensions could have quite an economic impact on some communities.

I just hope this ruling doesn't invoke the rule of "unintended consequences"

"Surprised all the bnp ukip mail/express readers lot are not kicking off..."

There is fairly little mileage in being racist towards highly trained killing machines

Someone, I [i]think[/i] Nick Clegg, put it best: if they are good enough to die for our country, then they are good enough to live in it.