[Closed] The Food Hospital

We watched half hr or so, girl with polysistic ovaries?
Felt very sorry for her and wondered why the nhs couldn't do owt for what seemed such a bad case! Didnt watch it all, how'd it turn out?

That was incredibly sad but her boyfriend sounded a real gem. Yes, surprised the NHS didn't do something but she changed her rather bad diet, lost a load of weight, exercised and seemed really positive.

Yes I watched it and gonna be watching them all closely because lets face it diet in the uk and much of the west is horrific and having a massive impact on health.
Sorry I have to say it but drinking the milk of another mammal it just cant be right but we are raised to believe its normal so no one questions it.

If you listened at the start she had refused medical help for the last 6 years 🙂

quite interesting, but it turned out to be the same "eat properly and you will be healthier than if you eat crap" shocker.

Yep thats why I switched off. Mrs FD suffers from PCOS, but not half as bad as that women, but then again she uses medication. I thought there was going to be some miracle cure, but no they just said medication, and er yes healthy eating.

Sorry I have to say it but drinking the milk of another mammal it just cant be right but we are raised to believe its normal so no one questions it.

Not everything you seen on Snatch is true.

Sorry I have to say it but drinking the milk of another mammal it just cant be right but we are raised to believe its normal so no one questions it.

If you actually bothered to think about what other animals eat you'd realise just how stupid an affirmation that is. Flies eat poo, vampire bats drink blood, spiders liquify insects and suck their insides out... Drinking cow milk barely registers on the weird scale.

[i]Flies eat poo, vampire bats drink blood, spiders liquify insects and suck their insides out... Drinking cow milk barely registers on the weird scale.[/i]

The examples given here seem to confuse the evolution of a species to align itself to a particular food source, with the weird eating habits of a species which has invented a product loosely based on the milk of another species.
Milk, today being a [b]product[/b] of agriculture.

Of course, there are loads of people living day to day, raising children, who do not include cows milk in their diets.

But don't let that stop anyone.
And don't let the contents of cows milk stop you either....

I have drank cows milk recently, and it wasn't nice, furthermore, my body didn't appear to be too happy about it.

I'm amazed by the seemingly unshakeable belief some folk appear to have when categorizing foods which are "natural", "staple", "healthy".
All based on [i]hear say[/i].
😉

Edit:

Sorry CG, no I didn't see the TV program you refer to.

The examples given here seem to confuse the evolution of a species to align itself to a particular food source, with the weird eating habits of a species which has invented a product loosely based on the milk of another species.
Milk, today being a product of agriculture.

Western cultures have evolved to be able to digest cows' milk. It's a nutritious source of protein and calcium, the fact that you don't like it is neither here nor there.

[i]Western cultures have evolved to be able to digest cows' milk. It's a nutritious source of protein and calcium, the fact that you don't like it is neither here nor there.[/i]

^^^^^^^^
I rest my case.

Now, go get your pitch forks.

And in the meanwhile, thats an incredible feat of speeding up evolution to have the entire [i]western cultures[/i] [b]only ?[/b], evolve within the comparitively short space of time that farmed cows and their milk have been available.

I hope you like all that grain fed, antibiotic fed, cows milk.
Yumm !.
🙄

think of the pain the poor cows would have to endure if we suddenly stopped milking them...

I hope you like all that grain fed, antibiotic fed, cows milk.

I do 😀

I watched it, it's my kind of TV TBH. Human interest, not really telling us anything, but on a topic I'm loosely interested in.

Oh, and I love milk. I'm eating cereal now and I'm going to have a pint with my peanut butter and jam sarnies later. 🙂

[i]Oh, and I love milk. I'm eating cereal now and I'm going to have a pint with my peanut butter and jam sarnies later.[/i]

Yeap, great.

But at least a smoker [i]knows[/i] smoking is bad for them.....
Although I do suppose it did take a while to put that arguemnent to rest....
😉

I'm pretty sure I read a study sponsored by the milk marketing board that it's been proven that consuming milk is good for bone strength and can help to reduce the absorption of dietry fats.

Bread is bad for you! You have to bake it in an oven! Eggs are bad for you because they are chicken eggs not human eggs! Meat is bad for you because it's not human meat!!

Solo you are clearly lactose intolerant. I am not so I shall eat cheese and drink milk. Thank you.

[i]I'm pretty sure I read a study sponsored by the milk marketing board that it's been proven that consuming milk is good for bone strength and can help to reduce the absorption of dietry fats.
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That is class, you are indeed an A star forum warrior.
Made me chuckle.
😀

I hope you like all that grain fed, antibiotic fed, cows milk.

Certainly do. It was great on my Weetabix earlier.

And my world would be a lot poorer without cheese. Stilton, brie, torta del casar, mozarella, edam...

[i]Solo you are clearly lactose intolerant[/i]

Eh ?.

[i][b]I am not[/b] so I shall eat cheese and drink milk. Thank you[/i]
How can you tell ?......

[i]Certainly do. It was great on my Weetabix earlier.[/i]

Nice response, mature.

How can you tell ?......

Maybe (and this may astound some people) it's because eating cheese & milk has none of the effects associated with being lactose intolerant?

🙄

It's not rocket surgery is it.

I have drank cows milk recently, and it wasn't nice, furthermore, my body didn't appear to be too happy about it.

If not lactose intolerant, maybe you're milk protein intolerant.

Solo you are clearly lactose intolerant

Eh ?.

I am not so I shall eat cheese and drink milk. Thank you
How can you tell ?......

You said "I have drank cows milk recently, and it wasn't nice, furthermore, my body didn't appear to be too happy about it."

And my Weetabix reply was about as mature as it needed to be, when replying to scaremongering stuff like "I hope you like all that grain fed, antibiotic fed, cows milk."

And in the meanwhile, thats an incredible feat of speeding up evolution to have the entire western cultures only ?, evolve within the comparitively short space of time that farmed cows and their milk have been available.

In short, yes.
[url] http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707628389 [/url]

[i]
Maybe (and this may astound some people) it's because eating cheese AND milk [b]has none of the effects associated with being lactose intolerant? [/b]

It's not rocket surgery is it.
[/i]

Impressive !.
You can tell whether your body is really liking milk, how exactly ?.
Is it because you are alive ?.
Wouldn't that be more to do with your body's ability to tolerate stuff, in order to serve the greater goal of living to see tomorrow ?.

Dietary choices, Nietzsche stylee.

Here, let me help.
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Staggering !.

I [s]have[/s] drank cows milk recently

I'm poor grammar intolerant 😉

 

[i]You said [/i].....
😆

Nice response, mature.

Like a fine cheese.

quite interesting, but it turned out to be the same "eat properly and you will be healthier than if you eat crap" shocker.

I thought the case with the young boy with the migraines was more than that. They cut ham and citrus fruits from his diet. Things that most people would put in the healthy bracket.

[i]I'm poor grammar intolerant[/i]

Thanks Rob.
I do have terrible grammar.
😉

[i]Like a fine cheese.[/i]

Oh yes, so do I.
Especially with a glass or two of red.

😉

[i]They cut ham and citrus fruits from his diet. Things that most people would put in the healthy bracket[/i]

AND WE HAVE A WINNER !.

Either that or someone who can't find their pitch fork.

You can tell whether your body is really liking milk, how exactly ?

😕

Well, in these modern times we have access to all sorts of medical knowledge. Some doesn't even involve the use of leeches any more.

Some symptoms of lactose intolerance:

flatulence
diarrhoea three or more times a day
bloated stomach
stomach pains
stomach rumbling
nausea
stomach cramps

I'm starting to suspect somebody's being deliberately obtuse...

So don't eat ham and citrus fruit? What can I eat? Shall I just go and graze in the backgarden?

AND WE HAVE A WINNER !. Either that or someone who can't find their pitch fork.

?? really don't understand what I said for that reaction.

So don't eat ham and citrus fruit? What can I eat? Shall I just go and graze in the backgarden?

No, that's not the point. It was cut out in order to cure the migraines. At no point was it suggested everyone should do this.

So don't eat ham and citrus fruit?

Damn damn damn damn damn

No more Hawaiian pizza's! (is Pineapple a citrus fruit?)

I thought the case with the young boy with the migraines was more than that. They cut ham and citrus fruits from his diet. Things that most people would put in the healthy bracket.

They are healthy purely from a nutrition perspective, but there are foods that can cause or exaggerate migraine's.

When I was a kid I suffered migraines. GP suggested I avoid cheese & chocolate. I never ate much of either in the first place, but I guess that was just the medical opinion at the time.

I did find that drinking ice-cold Coca Cola helped my migraines though.
No idea why. And it didn't work with Pepsi, or any other cola type drink.

I personally don't like milk, and have fruit juice in my cereal instead. I can handle lactose as well as most.

A lot of people seem to be quite defensive when it comes to milk consumption. Just because your mums served you cows (or other non-human) milk doesn't mean it is good for you.

Some one needs to teach that girl how to shave properly too, no wonder she hated shaving she must have ended up with bad shaving rash and lots of cuts the way she did it!

A lot of people seem to be quite defensive when it comes to milk consumption. Just because your mums served you cows (or other non-human) milk doesn't mean it is good for you.

Quite true. Though it's important to remember the same can be said for fruit juice.
The problem with ascribing any foodstuff in simple terms such as good or bad, is that invariably there will be a wealth of research that supports the counter position.

I use unsweetened almond milk on my breakfast cereal, to avoid the absolute certainty of being killed to death by cow's milk every time I eat breakfast ...

Solo - Is Green Tea allowed on the iDiet? Can I replace my water with it? Ta.

A lot of people seem to be quite defensive when it comes to milk consumption. Just because your mums served you cows (or other non-human) milk doesn't mean it is good for you.

If I'm coming across as "defensive" that wasn't my intention, I'm bored at work (IT middle management for you) and reading ridiculous statements about how milk is bad for you seemed the perfect starting point for an argument.

Incidentally, most government guidelines indicate that some milk consumption is a good idea.

Incidentally, most government guidelines indicate that some milk consumption is a good idea.

I assume this was lobbied for by the large amount of dairy farmers 😉

This thread was more interesting with Solo bashing round the head with the rules of mammalian milk consumption

I'm happy eating cows and don't see that drinking their juice is somehow worse.

I assume this was lobbied for by the large amount of dairy farmers

Doctors go on about it, too. They can't all be lobbied by the dairy farmers... can they???

I'm happy eating cows and don't see that drinking their juice is somehow worse.

Do you make bolognese properly.. with milk and white wine.

If not, try it, fill yourself full of Win.

Doctors go on about it, too. They can't all be lobbied by the dairy farmers... can they???

NHS doctors are employed by the Govt & are therefore obliged to spout whatever the latest 'Govt Guidelines' say, regardless of whether they think it's correct * ... gotta toe the party line and all that.

(*this may or may not be true)

It's not rocket surgery is it.

Sorry for the tangent, but that proper gave me the giggles, that did. I'm going to drop it into conversation next time I'm trying to get a point across and see if anyone notices.

I didn't see it but I'm going to watch it tonight, might be interesting. I'm off to see a Nutrition Therapist next week to try and resolve all my various aches and pains/illnesses and primarily my SAD which will start creeping in now pretty quickly with the darkness setting in 🙁 sob sob.

p.s. you lot really can argue about ANYTHING. 😯

It really should have been condensed into a half hour programme but, nevertheless, there's always things to learn.

emma - good luck with getting sorted. Just make sure you don't get referred to a GP who wants to dole out ad's. Think you'll find though that there's a few on here who suffer with SAD.

Thanks CG, the main thing is I know I get it now which for a few years I did and it used to cause all sorts of problems. At least I can attempt to keep on top of it now I know what it is 🙂

Going to have a watch on 4oD in a bit so mayb I can join in the arguments afterwards 🙂

Sorry I have to say it but drinking the milk of another mammal it just cant be right but we are raised to believe its normal so no one questions it.

Hi emma82,

my wife gets SAD and has been on some ADs for < 6 months, but she is having problems coming off and having to come off more slowly.

When she first came off and before the withdrawal problems I persuaded her to go to a nutritionist who got her eating a lot more protein and less carbs.

She felt the benefits of the diet pretty quick (also felt the effects of coming off the ADs pretty quick).

So hopefully you will see similar benefits.

For the SAD as well maybe you should find something to do in the dark that you look forward to, like night riding maybe. Then you have something to look forward to as the nights close in.

I like milk and cheese. If solo doesn't like it, I really couldn't give a shit.

really...Life, get one.

em82, good luck with getting your SAD sorted, sounds awful 🙁

Thanks turnerguy, I'm hoping the nutritionist will give me a bit of direction, I am literally crap with food even when I think I'm being good. Last year was the worst I've ever been with SAD, but was determined to not go down AD route and I'm glad I didn't really.

Cheers emz! I also like milk and cheese, especially really stinking French cheese. Preferably washed down with baguettes and red wine 🙄