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Just the tiniest bit of pressure and he was off! It's a big coup in the mind game for hamo that

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Just the tiniest bit of pressure and he was off! It's a big coup in the mind game for hamo that

Was rosberg thinking "this corner is the championship" then?

Not sure I'd describe being close to winning the F1 championship is "tiniest bit of pressure"

No, but losing it like a GP2 driver at the same chicane twice might be described as that

Not sure I'd describe being close to winning the F1 championship is "tiniest bit of pressure"

Yet strangely the other bloke under similar pressure made the chicance every lap.

@zokes it's not over yet and Rosberg still leads. The animosity between Rosberg and Hamilton was pretty clear on the podium.

Cheeky question from Eddie, was that the penalty you gave Rosberg 🙂

EJ and Susi perry are shambolic

@zokes it's not over yet and Rosberg still leads

I never said it was, I just highlighted what others have that Rosberg was quite lame in this race as well, but at least he only ****ed up his own day this time

I'm struggling to understand how Perez got to stay ahead of Bitton when he seemed to leave the track in order to retain his place on one of the chicanes? Jot seen a replay yet though.

Hamilton was in a class of his own today, fatest and using less fuel. Impressive 🙂

I think you are all missing out the star of the day, Daniel Ricciardo is showing how amazing a driver he is. That pass on Vettel had me laughing for ages 🙂

Ricciardo was good but not that outstanding today, he's been better
Remember his tyres were 11 laps younger than Vettel's

I think we saw what rosbergs punishment was..

letting lewis take the lead.

more fitting would be if rosberg had come into the pits on the last lap and parked up.. although I can see that Mercedes would never allow the contstructors points to be wasted.

but it would have stopped the booing.

edit: didn't realise that eddie had already asked the question, however you can hear in rosbergs apology to the team over the radio he meant it to be that he had to give up the place.

You're not serious?

Not so sure about that - Monza is a power circuit. Merc 1 & 2, then should be Williams 3 & 4 (if Massa doesn't crash). With Ferrari in the mix.

I think Red Bull will be lucky to come away with a 5th place.

I should have put a bet on this! 😆

Yet strangely the other bloke under similar pressure made the chicance every lap.

People booing Rosberg...

He spoke in Italian to Massa so Hamilton could not join in...

Mind games Coulthard said.

you can hear in rosbergs apology to the team over the radio he meant it to be that he had to give up the place.

You must have been wearing a balaclava.

I was more taken with the beaming smile on Toto Wolffs face when Ham took the lead.

No. Rosberg is a spoilt dick trying to manipulate what really happened.

Lewis did a similar? In his ROOKIE year? I hope you dont mean China where Mclaren insisted he stay out on ruined tyres. ****ing idiots cost him on that race retire alone. He lost the champ by one point remember.

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No. Rosberg is a spoilt dick trying to manipulate what really happened.

Ha, spoilt dick, good choice of words but mainly leveled at Hamilton through the years.

How? He comes from a hardworking poor Dad. Nico comes from money/comfort.

Lewis always came across as stroppy/childish as the rare shots were mclaren linked of a small, young boy not a man.

@aracer, as I said Hamilton made a similar mistake to throw away a potential championship before he won his first

Go on then, I'll bite, where and when was that?

Though presumably in any case you're suggesting that Nico in his 9th year of F1 aged 29 is no more mature than Lewis was in his rookie season aged 22.

so to all Lewis fans who think merc are trying to nobble him and prefer Rosberg this should put that to bed, as they could easily have had an issue at his put stop. ..
Did rosberg serve his punishment today with an "off" at the best part of the track without losing any time to others, only time will tell, when drivers are out of contact....
But despite my Lewis hate he drove a great race, and for us as fans great for title

what's this I hear about Honda running the mclaren package before 2015? Could we see them at the last few races?

I don't buy any of the F1 inter team conspiracies, but I do find it odd that both times rosberg missed the chicane he didn't even lock up. Drivers locking up into the 1st chicane isn't uncommon, and most of them still manage to make the corner. Rosberg didn't even attempt to make the corner.....I find it an odd way to miss a corner

[quote=thekingisdead ]I don't buy any of the F1 inter team conspiracies, but I do find it odd that both times rosberg missed the chicane he didn't even lock up. Drivers locking up into the 1st chicane isn't uncommon, and most of them still manage to make the corner. Rosberg didn't even attempt to make the corner.....I find it an odd way to miss a corner
I thought he had locked up the second time. Didn't the reverse-view camera show smoke from his right rear tyre?

Oh, perhaps he did. Defo no tyre smoke on the 1st one!!!

I find it an odd way to miss a corner

He did lock up

....but anyway
You're leading the world championship and all you probably have to do is keep it clean and finish behind Hamilton. He's coming after you and he's faster than you.
Going straight at the first chicane if you think you won't make it, is the safe thing to do there. The sausage kerbs mid chicane are a serious risk for the underside of the car and a DNF.
He didn't need to defend hard, so he didn't - end of.

He also locked up the first time he missed it - front left was on the white line - it was only a little one but that's all it takes.

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What's this I hear about Honda running the mclaren package before 2015? Could we see them at the last few races?

Very doubtful, the PU (engine, regen package and batteries) haven't been homologated so would not pass scrutineering. Guarantee there's a slave car hammering round somewhere (probably Twin Ring Motegi), they're quiet enough to pass off as road car testing at a closed facility.

Great race to watch, loads of overtaking. Great drive from Hamilton, after a technical issue from the start.

I see the tin foil hats have taken over F1 now.

Great race and a superb drive from Lewis. I can't believe that some people are suggesting that Nico had to yield to Lewis! Don't be daft.
Ricciardo was great too, well done, think we will seeing a lot of him.in the future.

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I don't buy any of the F1 inter team conspiracies, but I do find it odd that both times rosberg missed the chicane he didn't even lock up. Drivers locking up into the 1st chicane isn't uncommon, and most of them still manage to make the corner. Rosberg didn't even attempt to make the corner.....I find it an odd way to miss a corner

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Oh, perhaps he did. Defo no tyre smoke on the 1st one!!!

Probably knew he was going into the corner too hot and didn't want to risk a flat spot.

There isn't any secret deal that was done to let Hamilton pass - Rosberg cracks under pressure and has done before. Hamilton is an amazing driver and all the drivers know it, he does appear to have a way of making other drivers panic and lose focus when he hunting them down. It's nice when he's ahead of course, that makes it easier for him, but he does love the chase and the others know that. Thankfully he can now manage his car better than before and keep it running fast until the end without shredding the tyres - maybe this is what the Mercedes car is allowing him to do now.

Riccardio was fantastic, wasn't he? The way he was saying "yeah that was fun" cracked me up during his interview! He's making Vettel look a little amateurish now, isn't he? I can see him being world champ one day and I hope he manages it.

Bottas - is he actually even calmer and chilled than Raikonnen? He did a great job yesterday.

Was nice to see Massa getting a podium. Always liked him and think he could have been a world champ contender if he hadn't gone to Ferrari. Hopefully he has enough time to make it still - he looked very happy which never was the case with Ferrari.

Great to see Williams doing well too.

....but anyway
You're leading the world championship and all you probably have to do is keep it clean and finish behind Hamilton. He's coming after you and he's faster than you.
Going straight at the first chicane if you think you won't make it, is the safe thing to do there. The sausage kerbs mid chicane are a serious risk for the underside of the car and a DNF.
He didn't need to defend hard, so he didn't - end of.

+1

You only had to see what those kerbs did to Max Chiltons car to see why they want to avoid them!

Well the hot rumour going around this morning is there will only be 8 teams next team, but that they will be running 3 cars each!

Some more ideas being considered by ol' Bernie

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Courtesy of this guy... https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon

Riccardio was fantastic, wasn't he? The way he was saying "yeah that was fun" cracked me up during his interview! He's making Vettel look a little amateurish now, isn't he? I can see him being world champ one day and I hope he manages it.

Was nice to see Massa getting a podium. Always liked him and think he could have been a world champ contender if he hadn't gone to Ferrari. Hopefully he has enough time to make it still - he looked very happy which never was the case with Ferrari.

+1 to that - both of them are very easy to like.

If Merc had wanted a Lewis win then there would be far less risky ways of achieving this than 'making' Rosberg fluff the chicance - a 'messy' pit stop for example.

LH is fast, very very fast. Rosberg is more calculating and is very good at controlling a race and taking maximum points when there is nothing to distract him but he is not an out and out wheel to wheel racer as has been proven many times this season.

It was telling in the radio comms that NR asked not to be told what the gap was. I read it as 'I don't want to know as I don't want to panic'.

Agree as well, Ricciardo is another out and out racer and credit to Bottas too.

Massa getting third is the highlight for me though. Been through so much and a thoroughly deserved podium.

What is it about German drivers? 😈

Great race, my sky box had a wobbly so I watched the BBC coverage on iPlayer instead.

The coverage isn't as polished as Sky's but overall very good. Eddie Jordan's grid walk though 😯

Is it always like that? Either it was meant as some sort of performance art - a stream of concsiousness spoken word poem perhaps? Or Eddie Jordan is just a rambling fool who has no clue what he is doing

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Or Eddie Jordan is just a rambling fool who has no clue what he is doing

This 🙂

As to the lack of lockup from Nico, I reckon Mark Hughes knows a bit about F1.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/reports/2014-italian-gp-report/

It’s desperately important not to lock-up as the resultant flat-spot at that speed will be massive and will effectively consign you to that much slower two-stop strategy. Braking that late with his more forward bias, he immediately felt he wasn’t going to make the turn without locking up – and so took the safe option of the escape road and its coned slalom course. He emerged still leading – but only by a couple of seconds.

Rosberg’s front brake temperatures were now rising beyond their optimum. In trying to conserve his rear tyres by moving the braking bias forwards, he was beginning to compromise the brakes instead. Hamilton’s pace was placing an impossible set of demands upon Rosberg and the particular limitations he faced here.

At the end of lap 28 the two Mercs flashed past the line just 0.7s apart, and Hamilton’s DRS flap was open. Rosberg stood on the brakes and… it happened again, the Merc prone to locking its fronts at that brake setting and without FRICS to help stabilise the loads. “Lewis was coming so quick that I needed to up my pace and I just made a mistake as a result,” he said.

Why do us Brits never support our sports stars properly?

Lewis is known. KNOWN to be a take-no-prisoners-type when it comes to overtaking someone. Not a blunder-through but very robust. He also knows when its time to give up a space (something Alonso is also good at- the mark of a good racer IMO).

That picture is not near Brackley. No wonder there are all sorts conspiracy theories.