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But for now, yes he gets to prance about on a high horse...
Separate maybe but it's interesting the way F1 is right now - three drivers are generally regarded as the best - Alonso, Vettel and Hamilton.
Vettel is in danger of being pushed out of that group at the moment but Alonso and Hamilton are sitting on a total of three World Championships between them with neither having won on for 6+ years. If Nico wins this year, I think it'll likely be viewed as a 'right place, right time' one - a little like Button - a really good but not great driver winning in the right car and circumstances. So if not this year, will next year be Hamilton's? I can't see Alonso jumping ship just yet and can't see Ferrari providing him the car he needs to win next year either.
Alonso will never win again, and I'm not sure Hamilton will either, he certainly won't if he doesn't do it this year.
Alonso will never win again
It is looking that way - unless he can find a berth at a winning team as I can't see Ferrari providing him the car he needs but then that's not looking likely.
i also believe there probably are some contractual obligations to keep the cars running to appease the sponsors unless there was a mechanical failure. A bit of a problem when hamilton is running round the track with decent pace even with damage to the floor.
As such, by not having had the mechanicals up to this point, NR has gained a clear advantage (statistically).
Yep, mea culpa. You are quite correct, and I'm being dozy! Good job I don't use stats and deal with data on a daily basis 😳
If He's really able to be that calculating and precise then Hats off, but come on, those sort of contacts generally result in front wing damage for the chasing car and perhaps 1 in every 5 instances the leading car gets a flat?
Schumi and Senna were that ruthless on occasion. As I said, what did he have to lose? Worst case both crash out and he's still 9 points ahead with one less race to preserve his lead in. Second worst, he loses his nose, it costs him 20 seconds, which he makes up in 10 laps or so and is back in second where he was at the time of the crash. Pretty low risk to his championship, with quite a lot to gain if anything happens to Lewis, which of course it did.
Lewis will of course bitch about the incident
Not so far.
I wonder how much flak Nico would have received for tangling with a driver other than his team mate?
My 2p on the matter; It was a racing incident but unfortunately the other driver was his team mate and it was very very early on in the race.
Everybody knows not to collide with your team mate and especially not so early on in the race.
Can't find it but Bottas overtook Vettel on the same corner as the NR/LH shunt later on in the race, it showed you have to be almost in front of the defending car before you can make it stick round the outside there.
Not having it it's down to lack of vision/Rosberg not being able to race wheel to wheel either. You only have to watch the last ten laps or whatever it was of Bahrain to see how he can race.
It's a shame it happened either way as it ruined what could have been another fantastic race. Roll on Monza!
Vettel made the same move on the same corner on Hamilton on Lap 1, realised he couldn't make it stick so went straight on
Vettel - bloody good German driver
Rosberg - scrappy German driver who has been very lucky
I predict that Rosberg's luck is going to change in the coming races 🙂
more accurately its
Hamilton pushes team mate off any chance he gets
Hamilton allows people through who are not in the title chance
Rosberg backs down and thinks long term with everyone else including his teammate - until now.
and if you want to call rosberg "scrappy" just look at all the qualy mistakes hamilton has made, and then he almost crashes in the wet in the previous race when he has to start from the pitlane,
plus his crashes into button, alonso with his front wings already this year.
plus he's also had to take to the escape road a few times this year,
yet nico
he just does the job every race, and when he finally says "no lewis i aint giving up" he gets the whole frikin world on his case.
Given the number of shoves and dubious overtaking manoeuvres that Hamilton has dished out this season (and in previous seasons), it's a little hypocritical to get so shirty about this one. The whinging to the press is just reinforcing my impression of him as a spoiled brat whose success has got to his head. He obviously sees the title slipping away from him and is just screaming in the hope that Mercedes will slap down Nico, thereby demotivating him and giving Lewis the upper hand.
I think that as well as wanting to win the title as he's an F1 driver and that's his lifelong dream, I think there's an element of it enabling him to step out a bit from his dad's shadow.
back2basics - Memberand if you want to call rosberg "scrappy" just look at all the qualy mistakes hamilton has made, and then he almost crashes in the wet in the previous race when he has to start from the pitlane,
plus his crashes into button, alonso with his front wings already this year.
plus he's also had to take to the escape road a few times this year,yet nico
he just does the job every race, and when he finally says "no lewis i aint giving up" he gets the whole frikin world on his case.
Have any of Hamilton's 'moves' forced anyone to retire or completely ruined their race?
The crash in to Button whilst coming from the back of the grid? The one he apologised for the following lap and Button after seeing the race footage admitted it was 50/50?
I'm not a particular Hamilton fan but you are very anti
I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to puncture Hamilton's tyre but it was a deliberate attempt to put some manners on Hamilton.Deep down Rosberg knows this is his best chance of becoming World Champion and it looks like he is prepared to defend his title lead with plenty of vigour.
@richmtb - this
Given the number of shoves and dubious overtaking manoeuvres that Hamilton has dished out this season (and in previous seasons), it's a little hypocritical to get so shirty about this one. The whinging to the press is just reinforcing my impression of him as a spoiled brat whose success has got to his head.
@atlaz - and this
Hamilton stomped out of McLaren the team the nurtured his career and gave him his championship and into Mercedes on the basis he was going to win again, the inconvenient truth is that he has the best car by miles and his team mate is beating him. He is not handling this situation very well at all.
Context is everything and what Rosberg did on lap two at Spa last weekend was not judged as such. He declined to surrender a place that, conventionally, he had already failed to make work – once into the corner his front wheels were never any further forward than level with the front of Hamilton’s sidepod. But he’s not obliged by any regulation to surrender at this point. He’s perfectly entitled to attempt to bully the guy ahead out of the way by leaving the nose of his car there. [b]To suggest it was a deliberate attempt at puncturing Hamilton’s tyre is ludicrous - as Sky F1’s Martin Brundle later pointed out: “The chances of puncturing the other guy’s tyre if you hit him from behind: about 30%. The chances of damaging your own front wing: 100%,”[/b] – but to effectively place the decision of contact in Hamilton’s hands is not necessarily dangerous; it’s just racing. Hard and resolute, ruthless even. But not necessarily dangerous and therefore not necessarily worthy of a penalty.
I think this sums it up well
Well if Martin Brundle agrees with me then I must be right...
I'd certainly go for MB's view than the views of the less well informed. Not to mention that it looks like a comfortable majority of F1 people seem to think the same
Lewis Hamilton has queried the FIA's decision not to investigate his collision with Mercedes team-mate Nico Rosberg at the Belgian Grand Prix.
Given some of your driving antics just drive your car faster than your team mate Booo Hoooo boy 🙄
I'm just hoping that if they do anything stupid this weekend they do it at the first chicane, cos that's where I'm gonna be sat! 😀
so,
who thinks team orders at Merc then?
first driver into the first corner "wins" barring any technical difficulties and "overtaking" only allowed when 1 driver is in the pits and the other can press hard , which means pole will mean everything....
he has the best car by miles and his team mate is beating him
Or his teammate has had better reliability?
I hope not, the first corner thing means it's over in qualifying if that's the case.
I'd expect red bull to mount a good challenge here, given how fast they were running skinny wings at Spa.
McLaren did the same thing didnt they with Coulthard and Hakkinen, even to the extent where coulthard let hakkinen through at the end of the race, wasnt it the british GP, because hakk had the first corner, and only went behind because of a puncture to hakk was it???
'Sticky' wheelnut for Hamilton in the pits, if he's in the lead......
I'd expect red bull to mount a good challenge here, given how fast they were running skinny wings at Spa.
Not so sure about that - Monza is a power circuit. Merc 1 & 2, then should be Williams 3 & 4 (if Massa doesn't crash). With Ferrari in the mix.
I think Red Bull will be lucky to come away with a 5th place.
Speeds appear to be all over the place but the Red Bulls were pretty quick up the kemmel straight during the race.
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2014/927/7382/speed_trap.html
Yes Red Bull will be running that ultra skinny wing again.
Speeds appear to be all over the place but the Red Bulls were pretty quick up the kemmel straight during the race.
Am I reading that link right and the fastest speed trap speed was only 173mph?
And now Lewis's car won't start.
Rosberg must be widdling himself.
Cue pics of Ron Dennis with his arm round LH later on.
Rosberg must be widdling himself.
...or he widdled in Lewis's fuel tank!
if alonso wants to stay in ferrari, button's at risk, so can only deduce from that... lewis driving honda next season?
also had alonso+kimi not being team mates next season too. kimi and button to both quit?
i do wonder where RBR are going, with the brains behind the car moving away to other projects, and for sure the car being not their best this year, although riccardo has found it to his liking.
they made moves to take over Renault engine division - so they have intentions to keep in F1 and keep at the top,
so they should really try and keep vettel as much as they can.
despite drivers claims of driving for the teams they are in next year, nothing is certain until they actually sit in the car in 2015.
Newey still developing the 2015 RBR. It's Renault that is the weak link.
Currently Renault are hamstrung by the regs that say the design of the engine is locked mid season. And only limited modification allowed for next season too.
So Renault bosses have said they intend 'to change 48% of the engine' for next year. Which is as much as is permitted.
Vettel showing his true form against a strong team-mate, while not in the best car in the field.
Well, here we go...
oops
Car problem or did Hamilton blow the start ?
Torque mode 3 ?
"everything's in a muddle"
Ooops in deed
Hamilton lost his ERS at the start
Tin foil hats at the ready...
No bumpers lost. Take note.
Hahahaha!!!!
Britney cracks under pressure again
So who still reckons Rosberg is the better driver?
Everyone who irrationally hates hamilton