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The leaf lease deal is now applied to purchased leafs too. Guess a new one is coming out? Either way, nearly 9k off seems good https://www.nationwide-cars.co.uk/cars/nissan/leaf/110kw-n-connecta-39kwh-5dr-auto-100105/
Re leaf, yes. Production of current one not far off ending (it may have already I’ll check). I’ve heard the new leaf is very tasty.
well, not in terms of their fleet emission profile – still a heavy petrol and diesel car producer.
Just like every other legacy manufacturer. I don't see them being any less keen than the others to electrify.
no experience but interested to hear how you get on. 3 kids and a dog severely limit EV choices and the Buzz worked out surprisingly cheap on my company car scheme, but when i looked a bit closer, the back seats looked really uncomfortable and didn’t have the flexibility of the newer long wheelbase version that’s on its way. not been inside one though. all based on pictures/videos
Took it out today for around 6 hours just doing what I would normally do work wise. Covered around 130 miles , with approx 100 of those on motorway / dual carriageway at around 70 mph. Took a large box of steel profiles from one site to another ( approx 300kg) 45 miles apart.
Picked the kid up from school in it. He reported the rear seats were comfy for him. They slide back and forth ( not by a huge amount) and the backs can recline a bit.
Boot space is ample. It should swallow up most of the gear an average family lugs around. This one was a first edition model , so had leccy seats , but the side doors and tailgate were manual.
Apple car play worked just as it should.
Outside of car play , the interface was good enough . Nothing like as good as the iX3 I had previously, but it all seemed to work. The info screen behind the wheel gives you enough info .
It drove effortlessly (as most of the EV’s I have driven do).
Didnt realise you could change the drive mode ( so I don’t know what I was in ) but I returned 2.9m/kwh without trying hard , so at 10 degrees external temp , I was happy with that.
There are a couple of suitable vehicles kicking around in their system ready for delivery, so I just need to push them a bit harder on the price. I’m guessing with the LWB model coming soon ( no dates or prices confirmed) and the financial year almost over that I might be able to push them . No harm in putting a cheeky offer in .
He did mention a £6k VW contribution if I finance some of it ( did this with a T5 years ago and was quids in ).
good stuff. having been stung for £1k today to replace the fan in my 10 year old ICE MPV I am keen to make a change. I have invested 100% of its current market value in the last two years + diesel, and it still needs new tyres
the style pro (£63k rrp i think) is 45o/month lease on salary sacrifice from Octopus EV (2 years , 15kmiles per year) includes service, insurance, charger and 4000 miles worth of juice. Due September-November.
A bit less than i thought - quite a lot less than other comparable cars. with interest rates hopefully coming back down a bit and EV prices dropping, i wonder if it's worth holding on a bit longer
dacia spring pricing announced - £14995 is the headline price which is pretty good, albeit with a wheezy (45bhp) engine and short (137 mile official - so maybe 100 mile in reality) range. Good enough for city driving or a second car.
It'll be interesting to see whether 45bhp is enough for motorway driving - it only weighs a tonne so might be ok
I think that Spring is a very interesting car, and could work for a lot of people.
Only thing that would put me off is the likely NCAP rating. The previous generation Spring had a rating of 1, and the current Duster is at 3. Hopefully the new Spring will be a step up from the last one.
EDIT: just seen it’s a brand new platform, so fingers crossed.
My Leaf is better value than that Dacia 🙂
It’ll be interesting to see whether 45bhp is enough for motorway driving – it only weighs a tonne so might be ok
Be fine with a long enough slip road (19ish secs 0-60)
Only thing that would put me off is the likely NCAP rating. The previous generation Spring had a rating of 1, and the current Duster is at 3. Hopefully the new Spring will be a step up from the last one.
EDIT: just seen it’s a brand new platform, so fingers crossed.
Can't remember the specifics, but I think it was mentioned in this video and wasn't good news on the NCAP front.
yeah its a 1 star ncap car
pretty damning, but I guess better than the quadrocycle things that are the alternatives at this price point?
a brand new leaf @ £20k is a much better buy, but they won't be around forever
VW iD2, Tesla Model 2 and other will be along soon.
Nice Andy. Was very tempted to get one of those, was between that and the Audi Q4 Quattro. Went with the Audi just because I need the room in the back for carrying bikes inside the car.
Is it brand new? What was the lead time like?
@w00dster, yep it's new. I was 'downsizing' from my Ateca and chose it based on the €€'s savings. I am in Ireland and with recent discounts/grants and 0% it was only €36k book price. I bought in mid January (apparently it was on a boat due to dock) from stock but told dealer I was in no rush to collect as I had to get charger installed and a long trip in Feb planned (wanted to put the miles on the old car and didn't fancy experiencing public charging/ferry etc in an unfamiliar car).
Went with the Audi just because I need the room in the back for carrying bikes inside the car.
what's it like for bikes inside ? I had one on order for a long time, though ended up cancelling about this time last year and swopped order (Tusker) to a BMW i4 with a towball for a rear bike rack.
5lab
Full Memberyeah its a 1 star ncap car
pretty damning, but I guess better than the quadrocycle things that are the alternatives at this price point?
970KG though, wow! That's lighter than a petrol Aygo X.
Remember the bloke in the jag with the failed brakes...
Remember the bloke in the jag with the failed brakes…
Good.
I just joined this club!
Following the leasing bargain thread on pistonheads - we got one of the bargain Honda eny1's (£179x24). Problem is I have to collect it from Surrey. And drive it to Edinburgh. In one day. Due to Easter / holidays etc 🙂 and 🙁 all in one transaction.
Anyway: as an EV newbie - what do I need to know about one big trip. Do I need to preregister for certain charging apps? Already on Octopus for home sparks - so signed up for Electroverve. What else along those grounds ? What have I not thought about?
I believe the car comes with 13A and a type 2 cables.
btw - funnily the Honda dealer voice will stick with me - not sure what the panic is to get them off the lot: It HAS TO BE COLLECTED BEFORE END OF MARCH!!!
Remember NCAP is based on all the idiot driver assist kit these days
Anyway: as an EV newbie – what do I need to know about one big trip. Do I need to preregister for certain charging apps?
It is worth looking at the route you want to drive then find out where the DC fast chargers are along the route.
Then see which providers require pre registration.
Check out where the Tesla open for all chargers are. They are usually cheaper than others.
Don't leave your charging until you are close to empty.
Don't bother charging above 80% as the input power will probably drop off.
20 minutes per stop is probably ok depending on how fast your car can charge.
Kneed,
5 mins on Zap map to plan route with filters on for >50kw and multiple chargers. - Most of the rapids are contactless now, although some apps perhaps give you a discount. I generally avoid motorway service stations and aim for a nice pub / diner / garden centre. I always aim to arrive with circa 25 miles range left (unless it's Banbury where there are 30+ chargers). Charge above 80% and for as long as required if it gives you the juice to get to your destination. There's a good argument for heading to the most expensive chargers as they are more likely to be empty. In 3 years of EV ownership, I've never had to wait for more than 5 minutes to plug in.
What's the true story with the dude in the Jag with "failed brakes" then....?
That article just says he was charged...but... WHY??
Does he just like driving fast, and pretending he's stuck on full gas??
DrP
Thanks: zapmap installed and looks useful! Interesting about the 80% thing: which means the 2nd leg will be shorter than the first (will be 100% collected).
Does he just like driving fast, and pretending he’s stuck on full gas??
I'd guess he's some sort of an attention seeking prick.
Or needs cash (from JLR or his insurance, or from the daily mail)
For brakes to actually fail like that requires almost total failure of a couple of systems. Both of which have backups and high integrity levels.
JLR might have a lot of issues, but they aren't idiots.
he had 'similar' happen several months earlier too...
I reckon it's attention seeking/cash scam like you say!
DrP
Was it a typo and he was charging (his EV)?
Do I need to preregister for certain charging apps?
Not really. The major rapid charger networks - which are the ones you'll find on motorways - take contactless or app payment. Watch out though as some chargers have two readers - one for your app/membership card and a different one with a different symbol on it for your debit card. I've thought some chargers were broken before when I was just using the wrong beeper. The only places I've found that were app-only were 'fast' (i.e. slow) chargers installed at independent venues from small or local networks. On major routes it's just beep and go. That said, if you've got Electroverse that should be your first option since you automatically get a discount if you're on an EV tariff - although you might not be yet.
Since you'll be on motorways, you're better off looking for the charging hubs with many chargers as they are much more likely to be free. But use Zap Map or the car's satnav to tell you which ones are free. The former if you have a passenger. Also, Zap Map is available on Android Auto so that might be worth looking at.
Remember you don't need to be at 0% to charge, so consider aiming for an early stop, then if there's a problem you have one or two backup options in-hand. And don't be afraid to leave the motorway if you need to - if you aim for a service station and it's busy, you might find a charger a few miles off-route that is a better option than pressing on for 30 more miles.
Also, if you find you are worrying about range don't be afraid to slow down a bit. Dropping to lorry speed and staying in lane 1 is pretty pretty chill, it only adds something like 12% to your journey time (despite what it feels like) and saves loads of energy. You might find it better to slow down at the end of your journey rather than stop to add ten more miles of range.
Whilst it's not a bad rule of thumb you don't have to stop at 80% charge. I hit 80% one time and I was still happily chilling, drinking my coffee, listening to the radio, there was a spare charger next to me and no-one queuing, so I let it continue.
Anyway: as an EV newbie – what do I need to know about one big trip. Do I need to preregister for certain charging apps?
As you seem to be based in Scotland I'd recommend setting up a ChargePlace Scotland account and getting their RFID card. Its the biggest network in Scotland but lots of legacy chargers without contactless located in dodgy mobile reception areas.
Check out where the Tesla open for all chargers are. They are usually cheaper than others.
Yes you can but be aware that unless the Supercharger uses the new V4 chargers with the longer cable you'll have difficulty plugging in the Honda using V2 or V3 chargers which have very short cables designed for Teslas which have the charge port on the left rear.
thanks both - that is very useful!
12% to your journey time (despite what it feels like) and saves loads of energy.
45 minutes over 220 miles - in any car that has fast DC charging of more than 130kW or so you’ll be better time-wise if you keep the speed up and stop to charge.
Caveat here is if you pull off the motorway and discover a queue for chargers the whole system falls apart, and you may need some extra time for your bank to approve the new mortgage for using Gridserve or Ionity.
Caveat here is if you pull off the motorway and discover a queue for chargers
Yes, personally I wouldn't drive slow the entire trip, it's just something to consider if you get caught out or you just want to get home and don't want to stop 20 miles out.
I am considering the trip to my local office, it's 109 miles in the shortest route. The normal range of my car is 190, so could I manage without a charge if I slow down? I'd need to do something like 5.8 m/kWh! That shortest route is A roads and goes through towns, and my best trip on roads like that, albeit without trying, is 5.2 but that has about 25% dual carriageway. I have never tried lorry speed on motorways, but the motorway route is 120 miles.
That said, if you’ve got Electroverse that should be your first option since you automatically get a discount if you’re on an EV tariff
I didn't know that, I wonder if it includes Agile Octopus
Re long distance driving for the first time, my advice is much like others, plan your stops beforehand, have a plan A and plan B/C, plan to stop somewhere with Plan B and C chargers reasonably close. I think it's still fair to say the most reliable options are Osprey, instavolt, MFG and Tesla Public. Geniepoint are improving as they replace the old Engie chargers. I have no experience of Gridserve, as I tend to assume they'll be full and aim for other options. Use the Zap Map info for the chargers you intend to use, you'll be able to check there are no problems. I also tend to aim for chargers, close to, but off the motorway ie Tebay and Gretna green seem to always be full, so maybe I've used chargers nr Penrith or Carlisle, but often depends on time of day/week. As I think someone has said, probably best stopping more frequently and taking your time on your first journey, rather than running the gauntlet. These days you probably just need The octopus card, a Tesla account set up (simple plug and charge) and Charge Place Scotland Account/card
Saw a Fisker Ocean on the A1 the other day. It looked really good, but looking at some of the reviews (carwow & Marques Brownlee) showed a lot of idiosyncracies and non-functional bits that would make me nervous about considering one at the moment, if I was in the market.
On the topic of "seeing a car and it looking really good". I had the direct opposite yesterday, an IONIQ 6 drove past me yesterday and I don't think I've seen a more hideous car ever. I'm sure the designers thought they were making the perfect love child of a swoopy Merc CLS + a 911 rear, but dear god what a horrible thing.
I didn’t know that, I wonder if it includes Agile Octopus
Download the app, log in with your normal Octopus credentials. Filter by 'partnered with Electroverse' or whatever it is then select a charger. If it says 'includes 8% discount for Octopus customers' then you're golden.
dear god what a horrible thing
I really like it. Firstly it looks (and is) aero which is functional, and it's far better than box standard SUV boxes everywhere.
Don't get me wrong, I'm always glad to see a non-SUV being released these days but sadly I'm with @timmys on this, they're not lookers. Shame they couldn't get it a little closer to the 'streamliner' concept they came out with originally.
Ok then, you can all make fun, that'll depress the used prices and I'll snap one up. I see that lease prices are already tumbling.
Shame they couldn’t get it a little closer to the ‘streamliner’ concept they came out with originally.
Oh I dunno, given how concepts usually turn out I think they've got quite close:
I think they’ve got quite close:
Just personal taste, innit.
Looking at the two pictures I can't even really narrow down on what's wrong with the production car (something around the rear quarter panel), but to me somehow the design has gone from what you'd get if you asked somebody to draw a "streamlined 911" to something that brings to mind an Audi TT mixed with a shitting dog.
The Ioniq 5 is growing on me however!
The Ioniq 5 is growing on me however!
The reverse for me. I like them less. I sat in one and the interior, at least with cloth seats, was a bit meh - perhaps because I've seen the design a lot now. I'm not usually a fan of leather but the cloth Hyundai seem to use on that and our older Ioniq Electric is really just simple hard wearing cloth, no texture to it at all, which I dislike. The leather on my new Premium SE model is sooo much nicer.
The 6 is a lot nicer inside IMO.
Yeah the 5 I sat in had a light cloth interior, which i really liked for the sort of 'airyness' it gave the car, but it would be ruined in minutes with my two kids in the back wiping their dirty shoes on it. 🤦♂️
Shame you can't get the alcantara trimmed seats from the N on the normal model (AFAIK).
I’ve got ‘normal’ dark leather in the Ioniq5 (kids=non negotiable) and it looks pretty good. Other lighter colours look great but as above would look hideous within minutes of my children getting near it.
WTF is it with concept cars? @mert is the expert here, no? What is the reason that concept cars look monumentally badass every single time yet the result is an Ioniq 6 which looks wrong in more than 3 dimensions. Is it safety?
WTF is it with concept cars?
They don’t need to comply with any sort of safety or environmental regulation and dont need to be practical to mass produce.
Once they get passed through all those filters the more generic production car emerges
I went to Llandegla today in the eqc, it turns out that Llandegla is further away than I thought (it didn't help that I went 15 miles further than I should because I missed a junction) , so when I fired up the sat nav to get me home it was saying I would run out of charge about 5 miles away from home.
On the way there the average economy was 2.3mpkwh, it's a mostly motorway and dual carriageway run from Manchester, about 60 miles.
On the way back I put the car into max range mode, which limits acceleration to quite a gentle rate, and limits speed to the max for each road, it must do other things too, but I'm not aware of the specifics. Anyway I got home with 25 miles to spare and the car managed 3.4mpkwh, which is surprisingly good for a mostly motorway drive of about 60 miles, and is notably better than wltp. I've never tried it before but max range mode does seem to make a meaningful improvement on economy at the expense of acceleration.
I was doing 70mph on the mway and dual carriageway bits, and wasn't especially trying to be efficient aside from using max range mode. Cabin temp was set to 21c as usual.
Good work Julians. The downhill aspect to leaving Llandegla for most of the country tends to help a lot, and it sounds like you were driving with more thought to range too - both of those things make a lot of difference. Speed does too - if struggling to get somewhere then dropping speed by 5 or 10mph on motorways makes a massive difference
I’ve never tried it before but max range mode does seem to make a meaningful improvement on economy at the expense of acceleration.
That seems odd to me, since your car always uses a certain amount of power to accelerate a certain amount. To see savings like that from limiting acceleration you'd have to have been accelerating wildly all over the place, like smashing it along a windy road, or weaving in and out of traffic at high speed on a motorway I reckon.
Eco/max range mode probably also limits the aircon, but that's really a small amount of total power. My guess is that you were driving into the wind on the way there and with it on the way back. Met Office reckons there's a reasonable westerly today in NE Wales.
Reduced acceleration will probably result in a slightly lower average speed on any reasonably challenging road. As well as the obvious of taking longer to get up to speed every time you slow (for a corner, say) it probably reduces the frequency of "oh I'm going a bit quicker than I meant to".
I'm a bit puzzled by the media comments about how EVs never meet the official figures. Ours seems to do ok, certainly comfortably exceeded spec over last summer when I first got it, though it's not been quite so good in the colder winter temps.
I’m a bit puzzled by the media comments about how EVs never meet the official figures.
As I think I said before, the WTLP range includes mostly town or lower speed driving, where you don't really get to test maximum range since not many people are driving 250 miles in town without charging up. On the motorway your efficiency is bound to be lower and therefore range shorter than WTLP since unlike ICEVs your efficiency is worse on the motorway, which is where you are doing your long journeys and consequently where you're paying attention to your range.
My guess is that you were driving into the wind on the way there and with it on the way back. Met Office reckons there’s a reasonable westerly today in NE Wales.
I could have been with the wind on the way back, but the figures for the way there (2.3mkwh, 2.4mpkwh)are typically what I see on a mostly motorway trip on every other similar trip I've done, eg manc to bham, manc to north Yorkshire etc, I have never seen 3.4mpkwh on a trip like that before, Its so much higher than normal which is why I'm commenting on it.
I've seen 3.7mpkwh on shorter trips that don't involve motorways or dual carriageways.
Maybe it's because it was warmer on the way back? it was about 5c warmer,but I've driven this kind of trip in this kind of temp before and never seen those efficiency numbers
Im guessing max range mode does limit the power to the heating/aircon also, but I couldn't feel any difference in the car.
I dunno definitively what caused it but I was impressed,given the wltp figures.
Reduced acceleration will probably result in a slightly lower average speed on any reasonably challenging road.
Average speed was definitely lower,because max range mode puts a speed limiter on, set to the limit of the road. Avg was 54mph on the way there, and 48mph on the way back, but like I said up there, I've never seen anywhere near to those figures on a mostly motorway trip before even though some trips have had a lower average speed than today's.
Eco/max range mode probably also limits the aircon,
The car has a separate eco mode 'above' max range mode, but eco mode doesn't seem make much difference to efficiency when I've used it in the past.
Average speed was definitely lower,because max range mode puts a speed limiter on, set to the limit of the road
So you were speeding on the way out? 🙂
Maybe it’s because it was warmer on the way back? it was about 5c warmer,but I’ve driven this kind of trip in this kind of temp before and never seen those efficiency numbers
Unlikely, especially as you're on a motorway so you're using a fair amount of power and that does warm up the battery after a while. That said, if you left early in the AM (which you probably did since you're already home) the battery would still be at its cold overnight temps at least to start with. Did you precondition it?
So you were speeding on the way out? 🙂
Probably a little at times, I set the limiter to 80mph on the way there - indicated speed too. but the max range mode sets the limit to 70mph, so 10mph difference in max speed, but only a 7mph difference in avg speed cannot result in a 48% increase (2.3mpkwh to 3.4mpkwh) in efficiency - surely?
Did you precondition it?
No, no precondition at all today.
The trip out was at 12c, the trip back was at 15.8c, so approx 4c warmer on way back.
I would expect the limiter also works on indicated speed for the same reasons the speedo under-reads in the first place, so that's 14% more airspeed on a still day, which is 30% more air resistance. According to the Met Office it's currently 10-20mph westerlies in NE Wales Assuming that it was less windy in the morning, given that you say it was more typical in the morning, you're looking at effective airspeed of around 55mph on the way home which is around 45% slower than your 80mph trip out. If my maths is right that's just over half the air resistance on the return leg. Of course air resistance isn't the only factor, but the numbers are plausible and give support to the theory that it could have been a combination of your lower speed and a tailwind.
Headwind and 80 will destroy your economy in an EV. Add in an uphill finish and that’s the final nail in the coffin. Uphill/downhill makes a much bigger difference in an EV due to regen.
Avg was 54mph on the way there, and 48mph on the way back
Yes, that'll be a large part of it. Wind resistance is proportional to the square of speed.
80mph is 14% faster than 70mph, but when taking the square into account it's 31% more wind resistance.
Add on a 5 mph average headwind one way / tailwind the other and that's 85mph vs 65mph effective airspeed, which is 31% difference, but the squares are an extra 71%. So - yes, the speed difference and headwind CAN make the level of difference you're seeing.
I was also quite shocked by this at first - I thought something was broken on my car some days, until I realised the above.
All of which is great as it means you get a better understanding of how the car reacts and means you can choose when to just boot it and when to dawdle depending on charging needs, plus if on a normal drive you have an in-build range extension feature which really helps with range anxiety.
Warner weather helping noticeably on the range now. Just over 100 miles today in my i4, with a mix of city, motorway and dual carriageway and it averaged 3.7m/kWh. The same a month ago would have been 3.2. On the motorway I tend to set the cruise at 67, rather than the 72 i used to set in previous diesel car. I find that 5mph difference makes quite an impact, tying in with the above.
All a bit academic when 100 miles costs about £2 of electricity on IO 🤪
We're now on 4.8 in the Ioniq 🙂
What would be considered either good or bad in terms of kWh? Interested to hear some real world feedback.
5 is very good currently, some prototype/testbed merc has managed 8.something
What would be considered either good or bad in terms of kWh?
3.5 is decent for a large-ish SUV, but it's not good efficiency in general in the same way that 40mpg is not. Over 4.0 is good, generally the best smaller cars will get 4.0-4.3 or so. The Ioniq Electric is exceptional, we averaged 4.7 over 2 years and we can get over 5 on an A road trip without any special behaviour. It can return 4.7 on a motorway trip at 70mph. It's possibly the most efficient general production car ever made in terms of CO2 I reckon.
However that highlights how remarkable the Mercedes EQXX prototype is. It's a real road-going car, but it's not on sale yet. It easily gets 7.5, and it's a good sized four door coupe, fast and comfortable.
I’m pretty much besting at 2.8miles/kWh in the Polestar… eek!!!
Whatevs..!
DrP
We've currently got two budget tyres on the front, which knocks the efficiency down a bit, I reckon 5%.
That seems odd to me, since your car always uses a certain amount of power to accelerate a certain amount. To see savings like that from limiting acceleration you’d have to have been accelerating wildly all over the place, like smashing it along a windy road, or weaving in and out of traffic at high speed on a motorway I reckon.
I suspect that when used at their peaks, the battery/motor give off more heat per kw output, which is wasted. Certainly when you watch videos of folks doing 1/4 mile runs in a tesla plaid or similar, they seem to rinse the battery fairly hard despite not actually moving the car very far.
Its a bit more likely though that the lack of acceleration simply calms the overall driving of someone, making their average speed, braking inputs etc less, thus improving efficiency?
I suspect that when used at their peaks, the battery/motor give off more heat per kw output, which is wasted.
That's true, but you aren't accelerating hard for long, are you? That's why I said that this probably isn't a factor unless you are driving hard on a windy road which is where you would see the most acceleration.
Its a bit more likely though that the lack of acceleration simply calms the overall driving of someone, making their average speed, braking inputs etc less, thus improving efficiency?
Whilst some people may be unable to control their subconscious boy racer impulses without electronic assistance, I don't find this a particularly plausible hypothesis... Personally, I drive as fast or as slow as I want to drive at any given time, I don't simply leave my foot in the same position and see what transpires 🙂 However, I am only speculating.
I seem to get a reasonable improvement in range in 'eco' mode. You can also feel a slight change in the way the car drives, so I think it certainly changes the way the suspension / compressor is working, perhaps shuts down a motor ?? and some of the other gubbins.
I've been looking at servicing from Hyundai. The services are pretty cheap for a main dealer- £64 for a small one and £150 for a major one - although you might think this is a lot for basically nothing, but the 80k/8 year service is £535! Turns out that it's a coolant flush, which is a long procedure driven by the official Hyundai computer, and it needs 13 litres of special low-conductivity coolant.
Oh well.. still works out cheap overall though. I found this out when pricing up the Hyundai service plan which lets you pay for the next 4 years of services with a monthly payment. The total of the monthly payments comes to more than the total for all the individual services and MOTs though...
I believe that coolant flush service is due at 40k for the ioniq 5.....grrrrr
I don't follow much of what's happening with electric cars at the moment, but e-mail offer arrived with me from the folks I bought my van from 7 years ago. Guessing it must be old tech and/or due for replacement soon to warrant a 40+% discount?
£17.5k for a new Nissan Leaf 110kW N-Connecta 39kWh (£13k off), 2-3 week delivery
Yes that's what's happening. I think they've already stopped making them, this is old stock. You're still better off with a more modern car though even if you buy used, I reckon.
I’m pretty much besting at 2.8miles/kWh in the Polestar… eek!!!
“Long term” (since beginning Dec ‘23) in mine has been 3.3miles/kWh, mostly long distance motorway driving. Recent motorway trips have been nudging 3.5. I reckon it’ll hit 4 in the summer.
'classic' Ioniq coolant flush is also due at 40k! But... may have had this done already as part of the coolant recall that was out early last year. I was very pleased that the recall came at just before 40k miles completed.
The regular servicing is a bit of a joke though, but needed to maintain warranty. The standard service seems to be an expensive wash and someone walks around the car and tells me my tyre tread depths.
The Ioniq Electric is exceptional, we averaged 4.7 over 2 years and we can get over 5 on an A road trip without any special behaviour. It can return 4.7 on a motorway trip at 70mph. It’s possibly the most efficient general production car ever made in terms of CO2 I reckon.
The finance on ours is up in a few months time so I've been looking what we could replace it with, but I can't really see anything newer that is worth the price increase so I'm tempted to keep it. If only it charged faster and was better at carrying bikes, but in pretty much every other way it ticks boxes that other cars don't without costing an awful lot more...
Following my comment on the last page about seeing a Fisker Ocean on the road & the fact that multiple reviews for it didn't paint it in the best light, I saw this the other day.
Not great news, as there seems to be some nice touches on their cars & I think they were competitively priced
https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/18/fisker-production-pause-going-concern-cash-raise/
3.2kW/mile averaged since July ‘23 (ioniq5) Though average was over 4 over summer and is now starting to creep up again now that temps are in double figures. As others have said, cost wise… meh… but the biggest impact is range for longer single trips.
The standard service seems to be an expensive wash
In our case it was £5 of someone's time and £70 worth of air 'freshener' dumped all over the car.
Just seen this deal on a top-of-the-range Lexus Rz. It even has a dimmable panoramic sunroof! I think it is a great looking car.
https://centralukvehicleleasing.co.uk/car-leasing/lexus/rz/101086/450e-230kw-takumi-714-kwh-5dr-auto