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Early dual motor P2s can be spectacularly inefficient. 200 miles range tops in summer in some cases.

2024s are better as they decouple the front motor when it’s not needed.

Having had the Tesla, I had little interest in performance this time round and picked the one with the longest range. 6 seconds to 60 is quick enough for normal driving. I did spec all the toys though adding Pilot and Plus packs. Only thing I didn’t get was the leather as a) it was silly money and b) I quite like the recycled material on the Plus pack seats.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 12:54 pm
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That's what I have DrP. In the summer range was around 250, currently about 210. Oddly it seems more efficient on a motorway run than on my undulating rural commute. On the older model the pack configurations are a bit different than now, so make sure you know what you're getting.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 1:01 pm
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When did the gen 1 switch to gen 2?
I've seen comment made about the range improving in the newer gen... Would a 2021 be old gen?

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Honestly think we’re on about different stuff squirrel king. For driver aids or driver assist, i am talking about park assist, lane assist, auto braking, road sign detection, pedestrian collision etc. I’ve then got 3 settings for regen control, 1 for creep and another for steering feel. In my car these are in 2 menus and I can’t see how you could replace that with physical controls. Or indeed why you’d want to as they’re for configuring the car and not really intended for use while driving?

We're not. Lane assist is a stalk tip button and the rest of the options are in the instrument binnacle menu with no touch screen. Park assist would be a button if I had it, as is auto hold, start/stop, abs, and a few others. Not one is controlled by anything other than a button or selection switch.


 
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Yes, that's what I have DrP.


 
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Fair enough Sqirrelking. Only had 1 car previously with that kind of tech in it. That had 1 button and a load of buried menu options, which was worse than current car.


 
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Polestar 2…

When did the gen 1 switch to gen 2?

For model year 2024. The very earliest cars are August this year. You can tell the new ones as they have a colour matched ‘grill’.


 
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I’ve just had a Polestar 2 Long Range as a hire car for a few days.  With generally careful driving (I drive an i3 normally) the car was looking to achieve 240-250 miles and of the 120miles I covered in it, 90 were motorway at 72mph.  This was a 22 reg car, so not a updated one.

Generally it felt quite nice, but large and heavy in a way the i3 is not.  Dark and cosseted (being generous) would describe the interior. <br /><br />

The controls were very easy to use and get used to.  <br /><br />

Given a 22plate can now be had for £20k, it’s not a bad shout.  It’s got me reconsidering my choice to replace the i3 with a newer i3.  <br /><br />


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 1:56 pm
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You should look at a EX30 Daffy, similar quality to the Polestar and similar size as the i3. Rave reviews everywhere aparrently.


 
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Given a 22plate can now be had for £20k, it’s not a bad shout. It’s got me reconsidering my choice to replace the i3 with a newer i3.

Link please.. one I'm looking at is 10k more.. but that's the 4wd long range pro pilot performance pack diamonte superlegerra plus plush coo coo cachoo version...

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Posted : 06/01/2024 2:34 pm
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You can then “click” the controller and it’s done

Every day is a school day, I was rotating it round then clicking !


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 3:43 pm
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The Polestar can tow and they are quite a few cars around now, prices are becoming more reasonable. It's a candidate.


 
Posted : 06/01/2024 7:37 pm
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I may have put a deposit down..!

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Posted : 06/01/2024 11:48 pm
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On a Poledancer? Congrats!

Did you know they’ll deliver one to your house for a test drive if you’re reasonable close to the following…

Battersea
Bicester
Bristol
Edinburgh
Glasgow
Leeds
Manchester
Newcastle
Solihull
Southampton
Slough
Watford


 
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Yeah..not a new one though!

2020 LR AWD pilot pro...

Didn't go for the performance pack one as that was close to £8k more, and just didn't feel worth it (bigger wheels and better brakes and discs .).

Everything else seemed the same.

The one I've reserved is about £4 k below book price, so to good an offer not to jump on.

My OH rather angrily said I DEFINITELY have to sell the leaf and octy now 😞😞😞

The plan is to pay in full, then head up in about 10d to collect it. If I don't like it, I'll just reject under distance selling regs and get full refund.

Oddly, if I just pay the deposit then reject, I lose the  deposit!

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First long trip in the Polestar today, Birmingham to Fort William. Much more comfortable than the Tesla and I’m happy with the efficiency given it barely got above freezing. Heating (a/c, seats, steering wheel) used as needed and sat on cruise at the speed limit for pretty much the whole trip.

31.3kWh/100 miles gives a theoretical range of 261 miles, so something like 230 to be on the safe side. I stopped at an MFG charge point near Wigan, then Ionity Carlisle, and Ionity Glasgow, as that split the trip into two hour blocks which suits me and my need for caffeine perfectly.

Obligatory Skyfall picture… (not sure I got the location totally right)


 
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Ionity you should get cheap rate with the plugsurfing card that came with the car?

Tbh, I looked at the efficiency and thought meh, I'm getting close to that in mine. But then realised there's quite a lot of elevation gain in your trip! What are you getting on normal runs?


 
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Yes, used the Plugsurfing card. 35p/kWh is pretty reasonable.

Not had the car long enough to know normal use. Manual trip on the left is from new. I’ll leave that to get an idea of long term average efficiency.

I reckon it’ll be good for an easy 350 miles in the summer.


 
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Plugsurfing.....??

What's that then... Should my poledancer come with one?

Oh.. might look into the OTA performance download too!

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Plugsurfing is one of these charge provider aggregators. They have a deal with Polestar and Ionity to provide discounted charge rates. Not for anyone else though, and in some cases Plugsurfing is more than going direct. But I digress…

Yes, I think there should be a card with your car but it may have been retained by the previous owner. Yo7 can set it up via the app - make sure you download Plugsurfing-Polestar and not the straight Plugsurfing app. Then you just need you car’s VIN to create an account. You can start and stop charges on Ionity using the Plugsurfing app, the card is just more convenient.


 
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Brill, thanks..

Next question that i think i know the answer to..

The car will only come with one cable; either 3pin granny, or T2 cable. I think i can pay £100 and get a second cable..

I’m tempted to go for the Granny cable (as these are typically more expensive) and pick up an aftermarket t2 cable (about 5m in length).. or just pay £100 and be done with it.

WHere’s a good place to get decent but not too pricey 32a cables?

Cheers

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Pretty sure it should come with both? Mine did. Think they phased out the granny for MY24, and just supplied the T2.


 
Posted : 10/01/2024 9:59 pm
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Well this is being bought from an EV ex lease dealer, so they have their own rules and terms I guess....

Tbh I got it at a good price, getting then to 'fill it up' for me, so may just stump up for another cable off them

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 I stopped at an MFG charge point near Wigan, then Ionity Carlisle, and Ionity Glasgow, as that split the trip into two hour blocks which suits me and my need for caffeine perfectly.

Still feeding my EV curiosity... How did that work out on timings on the stops and what sort of top up were you doing in % terms? 

In ICE world I would similarly be stopping every two hours for caffeine on a trip like that although I'm very much an espresso person and I'd stop for 10-15 minutes on stop 1 and by stop 2 I'd be more like 30 minutes as driver needs solid fuels by that point. 


 
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I've had a Polestar 2 PPP MY 21 (the launch version) since Feb this year, still brings a smile to my face (both the performance, easy mode driving and getting into a pre-heated cabin in current weather and not needing to de-ice etc.).

It's pretty rubbish for range though (as has been said the MY24 ones are much more efficient), mine will do 190-200 miles in summer (but cruising at 70 on the motorway rather than driving at 55 tailgating a lorry...). Right now it's probably more like 130-140 but for me it's not an issue as my commute is 3 miles each way and I rarely do any journeys over 70 miles. I only plug it in to charge at home every couple of weeks.

It does seem very claustrophobic inside initially but you soon get used to it (my old car was an Octavia estate so was like going from being in a greenhouse to a dingy shed :p ). The BLISS door mirror blind spot indicator is handy though (think that's part of the original Pilot pack). Now I'm used to it the only time I still notice the lack of visibility is reversing out of spaces in car parks, I quadruple-check mirrors and windows rather than double-checking, not run anyone over yet though...

There were some minor issues with the MY21 (and possibly later ones) so worth checking they've been corrected via a dealer visit (mine came with paper work from a Volvo dealer who'd carried out the warranty fixes, can dig that out if you want the details).

For charge cable if they're only supplying one it depends if you're planning to home charge and if so how. Get the granny version to use away from home (and away from public chargers) if you're getting an EV charger installed. If the other one is designed to plug into a 32amp commando style wall socket and that's what you have/will get installed then go for that type instead. I've not used a public charger where I had to supply my own cable but I guess office car par style ones are probably like that.

r/Polestar on Reddit is a good source of info, especially around new software updates and any issues people are having (TCAM problems are the most common, have had it a couple of times myself but just following the reset procedure has worked for me). When I bought mine it had 21k miles on it and needed new tires all round so something else to watch out for (dealer knocked off some money to account for this).


 
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my commute is 3 miles each way

Even as an EV owner I always do trips like that on foot unless I need the kitchen sink with me. Even with a big rucksac it's under an hour and great for health and well being. I've never been fitter than when I did a hilly 33km each way commute by bike (except when a deluge or snowing).


 
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Still feeding my EV curiosity… How did that work out on timings on the stops and what sort of top up were you doing in % terms?

Maybe 15-20 minutes each time? I honestly don’t pay that much attention to it anymore, and my stop time is driven by going to the loo, buying coffee etc, rather than charging the car. 15 minutes of so will always stick at least 100 miles in the battery.

That stop at the MFG on the way up was actually too long because I spent ages ****ing around with the coffee machine. Cost loads more than if I’d stopped it earlier and charged a bit more at the Ionity which was half the price. Probably didn’t even need to charge there, it’s just another habit now that if I’m parked, it’s charging.


 
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@bensales what were your reasons for moving away from a Tesla? I had a new 2019 Model3 for 2 years, then swapped to an ID3, I'm now thinking of going back to a facelift M3 2nd hand (MY would be better but outside my price). I think the main draw is the whole OS/infotainment/security (including the speakers). I liked the performance and go kart feel, I liked lane centering rather than lane keep, I liked proper one pedal driving, things like a useable front boot, proper OTA updates (my ID3 had to go into the garage for a version 3.0 update and it took them a few days). I know the Tesla auto wipers / full beam are rubbish, but I tolerated that, because everything else was so good. Matrix headlights are the only thing I'd miss on the ID3. Oh, and the hatchback, altho we did manage to get 2 bikes in the M3.


 
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@bensales what were your reasons for moving away from a Tesla?

The three year lease was up 🙂

Reasons for not getting another, other than it’s extremely rare for me to get the same car twice…

- Tesla aren’t on my company car scheme any more, so couldn’t have one even if I wanted
- removal of the indicator stalks. I think it’s stupid.
- autopilot and auto wiper ‘foibles’ as you’ve mentioned. It’s just not good enough after all this time. I also disagree with Tesla’s position that vision can do everything. I think it’s better to take advantage of sensors that are able to see things the human eye/cameras can’t.
- I wanted a car with fully adaptive headlights. As I’m getting older, I’m struggling a bit more with driving in the dark, so want the best headlights I can get
- Supercharger network opening up means it’s no longer necessary to tolerate a Tesla to get access

As to why I got the Polestar, I think I wrote my reasons back up the thread somewhere. On my car scheme it came down to that of the BMW i4. The i4 was a really, really, nice car to drive, but cost-wise it just didn’t stack up against the Polestar for me.


 
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So, the journey back from the People’s Republic of Scotland was nearasdammit the same as the journey up. Which is quite a surprise as I always thought it was downhill to England…

Total cost of on-the-road charging was £94.21 plus about £13 of home charging before leaving. Which works out at 12.5p per mile. Quite comfortable with that cost per mile given 99% of my driving is charged at home and costs about 4p per mile. And especially as most of this trip has been in negative Celsius temperatures.

Overall also happy to say a Polestar 2 is a very comfortable place to spend 900 miles. And the adaptive cruise and lane keeping is [b]way[/b] better than Tesla Autopilot.


 
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I thought autopilot was meant to be much more than just cruise control and lane keep?


 
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I thought autopilot was meant to be much more than just cruise control and lane keep?

Nope, that’s all it is in the UK. Unless you paid £3500 for “enhanced autopilot” which will change lanes on a motorway if you indicate. If you paid £7000 for “full self drive”, it will supposedly navigate on the motorway as well, but given there’s virtually no navigation needed on UK motorways, it’s a complete swizz. It really only gives something more in the US.

The Polestar “Pilot Assist” is also better at its lanes changes than normal Tesla Autopilot. In the Tesla, you indicate which turns off auto steer, you move lanes, and then you need to manually re-engage auto steering. In the Polestar you indicate, it turns off auto steer, and then once you’re back in lane, it reengages by itself. Much slicker.

Fundamentally, the best bit was in 900 miles it didn’t shit itself and panic brake whenever it was overtaking a truck. Something that happened far too much in the Tesla.


 
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Molgrips, I think Bensales is getting mixed up between lane keep assist (LKA) and lane follow assist (LFA). Tesla's are lane follow assist and by the sounds of it so are the polestar. I've experienced both in a number of cars and LFA is a country mile better. My id3 is lane keep and it's crap, mach-e is lane follow and worked well, Tesla was good apart from the phantom braking (I only had autopilot) as Bensales says FSD is a rip off I don't know why anyone would buy it.


 
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Oh, yes, of course. Lane keeping is the one that just keeps pulls you back in lane if you doze off, not the one that steers for you. I mean the latter for both the Polestar and the Tesla. Not sure what Polestar marketing name is.


 
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Interesting. I could or arguably should have got a Leaf with ProPilot which is apparently good. That said I never feel like driving a long way in it.


 
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I'd be interested to see how the leaf propilot is too .

The Acenta has adaptive cruise control, and the tekna and n-connect have full lane steering...

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I was quite surprised what you could pick up a Jaguar ipace for these days.  £22kish for a 3-4y old without intergalactic milage.  


 
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Fords blue cruise is currently the only road legal hands off / eyes on ADAS that I'm aware of in the uk. And it only works on uk motorways. All others incl Tesla are currently in legal terms just glorified cruise control. I might be wrong tho, possibly the polestar / Volvo ADAS system is also hands off/eyes on road legal, I'm not certain.


 
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Polestar, in the 2 at least, isn’t hands-off. You need to maintain pressure on the wheel just like Tesla.


 
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QQ for the leccy vehicle experts

Need to change my wife’s car, currently a late petrol mini countryman, most days mileage is local and under 30 total, but there are two days where mileage is circa 120, with no access to chargers where she travels to.

Is there an EV or hybrid secondhand that has a range of 200-250 or more ? in a mid size SUV for a budget of £15k ?

She is adamant not leasing, or pcp.


 
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EV - I don’t think so.  Nothing at £15k with 220mile+ range and a decent size.  <br /><br />

Hybrid - there are a few which might fit the bill.  Mitsubishi PHEV, BMW 330e, etc.


 
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Thanks @Daffy

anything springs to mind that could be in budget with less total range? 

Are hybrids the best of both worlds,  or by having an ICE and battery that it’s just unnecessarily over complicating things and I’d be better off with an ICE or EV, but not both combined in one package ?


 
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I had a Renault Captur PHEV before going full EV and it was a superb car. Average MPG was around 115 with a mixture of driving similar to what you quote your mrs will do.


 
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I’d be interested to see how the leaf propilot is too

“Agricultural”, when I hired one in the USA last year.


 
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QQ for the leccy vehicle experts

Need to change my wife’s car, currently a late petrol mini countryman, most days mileage is local and under 30 total, but there are two days where mileage is circa 120, with no access to chargers where she travels to.

Is there an EV or hybrid secondhand that has a range of 200-250 or more ? in a mid size SUV for a budget of £15k ?

She is adamant not leasing, or pcp.

I have been researching as well - Hyundai Kona with the bigger battery size and made in the last couple of years (with improvements) might match rage requirements. But budget probably matches an older one, amd maybe only with the smaller battery.

Might be worthwhile holding off buying for 12 to 18 months, as then as the improved ones become older they may come in to budget.

[That is what i have decided to do as the result of my electric car research]


 
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Our Leaf does 120 miles in winter. Even if there are no charging facilities at your wife's destination there is probably one on the route somewhere just in case.
However I would recommend an Ioniq EV 39kWh over a Leaf because whilst ours had an official 190 mile range it would actually get that, and only dropped to 170 or so in winter. We regularly did 150 mile trips in it, with at least 20 miles left over, and it was a better car overall.

EDIT I see you said SUV - this is a foolish requirement if range matters, as you can't drive as far in the same battery, but you are looking at a Hyundai Kona or Kia e-Niro which has the same gear as the Ioniq.

Agricultural

You mean like, if you passed an open gate to a field it would turn in and drive up and down in neat rows?


 
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I'd buy a Corsa e with all the trimmings to replace the countryman. Matrix headlights and heated seats etc etc. Probably get one for £14k 🤔


 
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Have a pal with a kona with the bigger battery and it’s not far off my i4 on range. Think she gets 240 ish in this cold weather vs mine at about 280


 
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I’d buy a Corsa e with all the trimmings to replace the countryman. Matrix headlights and heated seats etc etc. Probably get one for £14k

Or e-208 if you want the same car in a much more interesting package 😉 They could even go e-2008 if the small SUV thing is really a requirement *shudder*.


 
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My neighbour has an e2008, absolutely rubbish range, she’s currently getting about 120 miles max


 
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My neighbour has an e2008, absolutely rubbish range, she’s currently getting about 120 miles max

Yep, 130 is about what I'm getting at the moment in an e-208, but an e-Corsa would be exactly the same as it's the same car underneath (well, compared to the e-2008 I guess it's going to have a slight aerodynamic advantage) . The suggestions seem to have long drifted away from the posters specification of 200+ range.


 
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Yeah, neighbour bought it cos she liked the look of it and had no idea about range and variety available. She has a daily round trip commute of about 60 miles and works shifts so it’s on charge at home daily and she hates it …


 
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Corsa e and E208 aren’t mid size. Kona might be, but only the older ones fit the bill.

If you stretch the budget a bit, you might start to get standard range Tesla Model 3s.


 
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Corsa e is bigger than a VW e-up and smaller than a bigger e-car. The boot is a nice size. Can't always have everything in life!


 
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If the budget raises to above £30000 I'll suggest some SUV e-cars 😉🤔 with a 200 mile range downhill in winter 🥶


 
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Thanks all

no way is the budget moving north to 30k 🙂

will look at the Hyundai Kona and hybrids - but may end up deferring like @timf as it doesn’t feel like budget and requirements align at the moment. Which is ok, always good to check.


 
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You can get a 64kWh Kona now for £15k, Niro or Soul is a bit more than that, as is the MG ZS. Even in a year, don't think there's much else coming into budget with those requirements.


 
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I have a 70 plate big battery Kona that I will be selling next month when I receive my salary sacrifice car. It's the top spec premium se model and will be very close to your budget.

If your not too fussy about spec/mileage/service history you can easily pick one up under budget


 
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You mean like, if you passed an open gate to a field it would turn in and drive up and down in neat rows?

No, I mean it bounced down the road like a pinball between the lines.

Although I really liked the way it accelerated if you flicked the indicator on to change lane, which the bloody Tesla won’t do.


 
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I reckon you could get a cheap 62kWh leaf for less than £15k... 210 mile range..

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I reckon you could get a cheap 62kWh leaf for less than £15k… 210 mile range..

You could, but don't. Unless you are looking under about £11k (at time of writing) don't get a Leaf.


 
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I like the idea of an EV and our main car is getting to the point (125k miles) where I would normally be thinking of changing in the next year or two. I do around 25k miles per year and have a driveway, so an EV ought to make financial sense at least. Maybe not given the high price of new ones, but more so if I look at the 1-2 year old ex company cars that seem to be flooding the market at the moment.

However, driving in from my snowy Aberdeenshire village for a 7am start this morning I was reminded that my preference has always been for AWD drive cars that have at least enough clearance to cope with a few inches of snow. I know there are plenty of dual-motor EVs on the market, but most seem to be more about insane acceleration than extra traction and don't have the clearance I want. There is the Subaru Soltera (Nissan whatever) but the range is woeful. I guess anything with a dual-motor (heavier) and more clearance (worse aerodynamics) is going to take a range hit. But is there anything with dual-motor, a bit of extra clearance and a range of over 250 miles that wouldn't require me to sell a kidney?


 
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Lots of EVs have an SUV type body with that bit of extra clearance.  Nissan Ariya for example -they are still pretty new so not many used bargains, but they are surprisingly cheap on lease.  Very nice inside.

That said, most things will cope with a few inches.


 
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I reckon a basic EV, like a Corsa, with CrossClimates on it would get you most places tbh.

Junior has an ICE one, with Falcon versions of the above and it gets around snowy Lanarkshire just about as well as my Q5 did with the Michelin’s.

https://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/falken/euroall-season-as210


 
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Yes, 2wd with winter tyres is better than a 4wd without, on snow.


 
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Yes, we've had the old 2WD on winter tyres beats 4WD argument for many years and I don't disagree. But I had to dig my 4WD drive car on winter tyres out of a snow drift when I got (temporarily) stuck on my way to pick up my son last night so still prefer to have both 🙂

By the way, I've used those Falkens as they are what our local tyre place recommends as an all-season tyre and can confirm that they are pretty good. At least when new. They seem to lose a lot of traction on snow before they are technically worn out, but that's probably true for most M+S tyres.


 
Posted : 15/01/2024 11:52 am
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Yes, 2wd with winter tyres is better than a 4wd without, on snow.

my post wasn’t as clear as it should have been. My Q5 was on CrossClimates (till I sold it for my current i4). Junior’s FWD petrol Corsa in on Falcon all season. Their snow grip driving is pretty similar, with the light weight of the Corsa offsetting the 4WD of the Audi.

Not such a valid point on EVs given they are all heavier than their ICE equivalent tho.


 
Posted : 15/01/2024 11:59 am
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i'm picking my Polestar 2 up on wed..that's the dual motor jobbie..<br />normally I jsut stick Crossclimates on all my cars - kinda struggling to find CCs for the Polestar (many garages don't even list them)... can find the right size ones, but it seems teh rear wheels on a polestar are wider...

Odd..

anyone with a polestar had CC2s fitted?

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Anyone else struggling with frozen flaps? At work three cars yesterday could not open the charge ports and today the two cars that are in cannot get charged.

They are all the push and release type. Any tips would be appreciated 🙂


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 9:52 am
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Any tips would be appreciated

A can of spray deicer over the affected area would probably sort it, failing that some fairly warm, but no where near boiling water would probably work too


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 9:55 am
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Oooh...so I picked up the Polstar yesterday.. it's a 202o that had come to the end of the lease, and got from a firm in Bedford that seems to deal with ex lease cars..

All in all was in grade A condition so really happy.

After i'd logged in (yup..gotta log in a user profile!) the drive home was sublime! The criuse control/auto steer makes motorway driving SOOOO relaxing.

I see what people say about it being 'claustrophobic' - it does feel the sides and roof are a bit closer than say, the Nissan LEAF, but it's not oppressive.<br />I love the infotainment, with the centre screen and a PROPER driver dash too. 

Drives beautifully, vv powerful, and all in all really pleased.<br /><br />I jsut wish dealers wouldn't clean and prep cars for sale with the horrible shiny sticky stuff they use. Yeah, it looks shiny and new, but it's just messy and I'll need to give it a PROPER clean/detail this weekend!!

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Posted : 18/01/2024 10:03 am
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Oooh…so I picked up the Polstar yesterday

Pics or it didn't happen 😁

Also are you going to pimp it up with some rims? 😎

Totally agree on the 'prep' thing, the tossers that prepped my current car apparently let a gorilla loose with a rotary polisher and hologrammed the paint 😥


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 10:12 am
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Ha!

I'm not going to say I haven't been looking at matte black rims...but think i'll leave it stock for a bit.
Maybe. Hmm....!!

Here she is!

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Like I say...It needs another clean and I'll ceramic coat it (myself). Paint is good, so doesn't need any machine polisher action.

New wiper blades will be fitted, and i'll Glaco the glass as (as expected) it's been cleaned witha bar of soap, so a bit smeery and squeeky!

I ALMOST got the CC out for this bad boi that was parked opposite.....

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But, you know, the yellow callipers look gauche so didn't!

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What did you pay for it, DrP? My Tesla lease is up soon and I have no intention of funding Musk's rabid descent into insanity with another.

Anyone else struggling with frozen flaps?

*s****s*. In all seriousness, whacking it with the side of your fist works well on the door handles on my Model 3, and will probably do the same. You could also try activating the climate control remotely, which de-ices the charge door on some cars.


 
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I ALMOST got the CC out for this bad boi that was parked opposite…..

We were at our local Porsche Centre yesterday and it's amazing just how many of those there are for sale used, while finding a 3yo Boxster for MrsSB is proving pretty difficult.

This morning she mentioned maybe a 'little SH electric car for doing short trips and use in the winter" (as well and something small with no roof!!)!!

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Posted : 18/01/2024 10:37 am
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But I had to dig my 4WD drive car on winter tyres out of a snow drift when I got (temporarily) stuck on my way to pick up my son last night so still prefer to have both 🙂

That's pretty much the only scenario i'd prefer 4wd/AWD. Once you get significant weight off one or both of the driven wheels, yer knackered. Snow mats help, but it's still a problem.

Haven't got stuck in a snow drift in 15 years though, got up the lane (ploughed but icy), on to the drive (30-40 cm snowbank from the ploughing) and into the garage (15-20 of snow over the entire length of the drive) at the weekend. That's in a FWD V60 on winters. Needed some finagling to do it though!


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 10:42 am
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I too wanted to avoid Tesla.. not jsut cos I don't like the lack of buttons and driver dash, but..you know..Elon (and my Ex wife has one!!)

RE cost; It's the long range dual motor pilot plus one (with glass roof, twin motor, self steering etc etc..)

Was listed as £24,440 in their showroom, but £23,950 on autotrader. As there were a few issues on pickup that I said i'd sort, I drove it home for £22,850.

Which is a pretty good price TBH.

DrP

Must...not...buy...these...with...michelin...CCs.....


 
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normally I jsut stick Crossclimates on all my cars – kinda struggling to find CCs for the Polestar (many garages don’t even list them)… can find the right size ones, but it seems teh rear wheels on a polestar are wider…

As standard, the wheels are staggered but the tyres are the same size front and back. Apparently catches out a few garages when they take the wheels off.


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 11:44 am
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yeah  - 245 width on ALL tyres, but rims are 8" front, 9" rear!

The wheels above are 9".. slightly lower ET..I wonder if 9s would fit on the front?!

DrP


 
Posted : 18/01/2024 11:53 am
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apparently wheel design can have quite an impact on efficiency/range with an electric car - so you may want to bear that in mind if swapping wheels.

Open designs like the above are not good for efficiency at motorway speeds apparently - which is why a lot of ev's seem to come with awful looking wheels


 
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