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New HBO series with Franco, Gyllenhaal, from the makers of the wire.
If you can get/find it, check it out. It's good.
I could have done without seeing those movie theatre scenes.
Yeah it's great. Basically the wire. Great television
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-deuce-anyone-watch-it
Never got to watch it fully and now dumped Sky.
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Never got to watch it fully and now dumped Sky.
I did a search honest!
Really enjoyed it. Brilliant dialogue by George Pelecanos. Bit difficult to hear at times for my old ears:-(
Yawnfest with an massive overblown sense of its own self importance.
but [i]funky[/i]Basically the wire.
Really enjoying it!
New? It's near to finishing isn't it?
[i]..massive overblown sense of it's own self importance [/i]
How do you get to that from a TV series about the porn industry? Weird.
From the fact that it lacks any sense of real drama, lacks the grit, sense of danger & realism that was in The Wire. It shows glimpses of it then ponders off down a long dark tunnel of over stylised pontification and as for Maggie Gyllenhalls endless existential crisis... please
I really enjoyed it, it ended it's transmission schedule weeks ago, but it might be a better watch as a one-off.
Yep, it's like The Wire if The Wire was set in that era / location, hardly a bad thing.
No, there are no major plot points in series one, it's largely just there to set the scene, Series 2 which comes next year is set 7 years later and I suspect a LOT would have changed in those years.
It's not the best tv series ever, but is very nicely acted, some cool characters, some grit, some fluff, some boobs. It'll do.
No, there are no major plot points in series one, it's largely just there to set the scene
I think people forget that basically chuff all happened in the first few episodes of The Wire, it was all scene setting. It didn't matter then, in fact it was great, because each series was fairly long (13 episodes) so there was time for all that and for things to then get going.
The new fashion for series that are so short, eight episodes for The Deuce, is that the slow but ace scene setting takes up nearly all of the series, and just when you thing it's going to get going, it ends. I'm looking at you too, GoT...
I loved it though.
And, to put it even more into perspective, The Sopranos and The West Wing had 21 episodes per series. 21!
From the fact that it lacks any sense of real drama, lacks the grit, sense of danger & realism that was in The Wire.
Given that The Wire was pretty much the best thing in the history of televisual entertainment, that was a pretty big ask, no?
And, to put it even more into perspective, The Sopranos and The West Wing had 21 episodes per series. 21!
I'm going to get really geeky here, the first 5 series of the Sopranos had the (almost) standard 13 episodes. Series 6 had 21, but the first 12 were shown in 2006, the last 9 a year later, there was even a 'soft ending' to the first half and a bit of a gap in on-screen time between the two halves.
For all intents and purposed there were actually 7 series of the Sopranos, with the last one being only 9 episodes long, IMDB / WIki read now like it was always planned that way, but I'm sure at the time there was a falling out within the production, re-watching it recently I can believe it - everyone remembers the ambiguous final scene - but the series was a bit odd too, it moves along at a normal sort of pace, then BAM the last two episodes are a total bloodbath.
You don’t need a series to to set a scene surely Breaking Bad did in the first frame almost & The Wire was a slow burner for sure but the narrative was exceptional and you (or at least I did) felt like the characters were worth investing time into.
Better Call Saul was an exceptionally slow burner but the characters had depth not convinced about The Deuce which is a shame I thought it would be so much more NYC in the 70’s Times Sq Method Man Black Thought David Simon and the best it could muster was a brief head nod to The Loft & Mancuso & the Curtis Mayfield intro, which not sure about anybody else but “if there’s a hell below...’ I never once felt like any of the characters were gonna go.
Will watch season 2 though as yeah I hope I’m wrong and it is a huge build up to something awesome.
Sopranos may have been messed up by the writers' strike. I think a lot of shows about that time had to work on the assumption that they might only be able to do half a season before they had to shut down, so they ended up with strange schedules, basically with a full season cut into two mini-seasons.
Series 2 started last week if anyone missed it, it's not being pushed by Sky as much, in fact it may go 'on demand only'.
It's a shame, I think it deserves and audience, I re-watched S1 over the summer and it got better, some of the finer details are great!
S2 jumps a few years and what seems like a whole era. Still looks amazing.
At least you can tell the James Francos apart now.
Thanks for the heads up. The dear wife and I watched series 1 a couple of months ago.
We'll get onto it, ta.
