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I signed up last night to do an Ultra White Collar Boxing event, so for the entertainment of the masses and to help raise funds for Cancer Research UK, someone is going to try and give me a good shoeing at the end of November, whilst I try my level best to do the same to him. Never done anything like it before, so it's an exciting step into an unknown world.
Just wondered from any boxerists or fighterers on the forum - training starts next Thursday but I've got a week to fill between now and then. The fight will be three two minute rounds, when I asked what would be good to do running-wise between now and next Thursday, sprinty stuff or endurance stuff, I think because I carry a little extra weight (ahem) the guy suggested I do maybe a couple of miles - but despite my deceptive bulk, I can run two miles ok at a not-very-impressive pace, I've recently dabbled with some sprints (20 metre sprint, 20 metre recover, repeat until close to vomiting, etc) and found that extremely taxing. All of this is a very roundabout way of getting to ask - would there be any benefit in tailoring my running to the format of the event, ie 3 x two minutes as fast as I can, with a minute's rest between sets? Or crack on with the endurance stuff, or the 20 metre sprints? In addition to that, any other tips as ever gratefully received. 🙂
someone is going to try and give me a good shoeing
Don't use your shoes. It's against the rules.
Running as training? Planning to use the run away technique
there is a reason boxers do lots of skipping. If you can't, learn.
Skip will be as close as you can get to the scenario of fighting
IMHO learn to keep your hands up covering your face - its harder than it sounds and learn to punch properly so you dont drop your hands
Punch a bag for one minute and see where your hands are then imagine doing that whilst someone hits you.
Practice skipping whilst people punch you in the head. Build up to 15 minute intervals.
Get a heavy bag and a rope. Do intervals. Good luck.
Learn to throw a left hook, straight right combo as hard as you possibly can. Keep practising. Land em within a few seconds and knock him sparko 😀
Six minutes of exercise with a couple iof rests during will be easy enough, right?
Wrong. Boxing is incredibly tough - just look at what Freddy Flintoff went through to do one 8 minute fight.
Be prepared to beast yourself for the next few weeks - tabata training would be good. And the advice on skipping is right.
I did a bit as an 11 year old (just sparring). The guys at the gym - just a bunch of amateurs with regular jobs - were supremely fit. And I remember the first time I went in the ring to do some sparring and got punched - ouch!
Good luck and keep us updated!
Good on you for taking on such a daunting challenge for charity. I've only sparred but I've got to say that it's some of the hardest exercise I've ever done. Considering your current level I'd say any exercise would be a start, but circuit training and boxercise would give some overall improvement in a short time.
Other than that; hands up, don't punch with a bent wrist and if you're on the ropes and taking a lot of hooks to the head get your elbows up (inner forearm/elbow interface bloody hurts, it'll make him think twice).
You'll probably be surprised how hard it is physically to 1. punch correctly (so you dont hurt yourself) and 2. throw more than 6 punches without collapsing into a heap on the floor.
If it were me I'd get training on a bag, learn to pace yourself and do a decent amount of fitness in the 6 weeks (running, skipping, whatever suits you best).
Good luck
Learn to throw a punch, how to use your body to get real force behind it.
Learn to jab and cover up especially if your opponent goes all windmill on you.
You will have big gloves but getting punched in the face hurts.
I hope you have self control
Get someone who knows what they are doing to wrap your hands.
Good luck.
Make sure you create an appropriate playlist to train to, I can suggest the following to start with:
Eye of the Tiger - Survivor
Burning Heart - Survivor
Heart's on Fire - John Cafferty & The Beaver Brown Band
No Easy Way Out - Robert Tepper
And whilst in the ring if you are seeing 3 of your opponent, hit the one in the middle....
😉
PS - Good luck!!
There is no training that is going to prepare you for it, I'm afraid. Not even close.
You are about to experience a level of physical exhaustion you will not even have got near to before. Its unbelievable how much it takes it out of you. Prepare to be utterly drained.
You will look on pro fighters who can go 12 rounds with almost god like respect, and stare in wonder at the level of fitness they must have
The skipping is good to get your footwork right. It also impresses kids no end, when they got their skipping ropes out, and discovered there was no way on earth they'd be able to do it better than you 😀
bag work is great but they don't punch back.
you can be the fittest person on the planet but if it all falls apart when someone starts throwing real punches at you its not really worth it.
spar as much as you can. learn your footwork and how to duck and weave. let the other guy wear himself out.
or just go for the windmill approach and hope you land something before he does....
It's all about the stare down. Practice your psycho eyes in the mirror and watch all of the Rocky films. Job done.
We're gonna need a montage...
[i]Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.[/i]
Mike Tyson
just go for the windmill approach
This.
bag work is great but they don't punch back.
I think the OP is just asking for fitness work, I assume all of the technical stuff will be covered by the instructors.
Get a cool nick name for the ring announcer
Pondo the pummeler or the like
I did quite a bit of boxing in my 20s. nothing prepares you for the pain you will feel. it is unreal.
The main problem is when you are dead on your feet, and being punched, trying to remember how to throw combinations, and defend yourself. that takes years to learn.
so, just go in flailing, you haven't got a hope of learning any technique in 6 weeks..
You might want to get some dietary advice too. It used to be high protein followed by high carbs just before the fight.
Know anyone in an abbitoir?
Personally I'd have suggested spenting the entire day in the local Wetherspoons drinking Stella and Jagerbombs. Pile out of there completely smashed and then follow the Paul Kayne training method.
You could learn something from here,
Aim for this....
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Accept the fact that six weeks training will get you this....
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Learn how to dance; worked for this guy
I think the OP is just asking for fitness work, I assume all of the technical stuff will be covered by the instructors.
Exacto. 🙂 As it happens, I started a boxing class on Monday and the UWCB people will give us two classes a week from now until the fight, so with a bit of luck and a following wind we'll have at least half a clue what we're doing (the guy last night said part of the reason for the success of the Birmingham ights is that they're not just slowly deaccelerating windmilling bouts but decent fights - maybe that's just blurb), but it was really what's good to do outside of those classes.
Cheers muchly for all the hints, tips and humour - I know enough to know that I don't know how hard it's going to be, if that makes sense. 🙂
Those two minute rounds will seem to go on forever. Very fast circuit training or squash is more closer to what you'll experience in the ring. Hopefully you'll dominate the centre of the ring and your opponent will have to do all the work. Good luck.
Good luck. A couple of minutes of light contact Karate sparring has me blowing out of my arse. 😀
"Pondo The Slat Hoofer"
"Pondo The Slat Hoofer"
We can request a nickname (and ring walk music 🙂 ) and the MC will oblige - being a Harris I was going to go with the traditional Bomber, but I like Slat Hoofer. 🙂
We can request a nickname (and ring walk music ) and the MC will oblige - being a Harris I was going to go with the traditional Bomber, but I like Slat Hoofer.
If you go with Bomber, can you get a set of marzochhi forks to carry in with you?
Don't know if they'll be happy with the actual forks, but I can put an image on the back of my robe. That'll confuse em. 🙂
sorry, which bit is Ultra? Your collar, it's whiteness, or the boxing?
My younger brother did some boxing training in the forces a few years ago. He was a fit lad at the time and managed to swing a few months of solid training to prepare for it. Regardless of this he didnt ever mention that he hadnt been fit enough (Maybe he was).
What he did say was that the ones that had previous boxing experience stood out a million miles. They didnt waste loads of energy and they didnt get hit as much. My brother basically windmilled the guy and the guy just covered up. Eventually you have to take a rest and then the guy goes to town on your tired body.
If it were me i would heed most of the advice here. Learn to cover up and move. Make the other guy burn out and when you see him tiring, go to town on him as best you can. If you get in the ring with someone who knows what they are doing, then just run about as fast as you can.
Oh, and chase chickens. If you can catch a chicken you will be like grease lightning
[i]If you get in the ring with someone who knows what they are doing, then just run about as fast as you can[/i]
Indeed! I trained with some amateurs years ago - when they hit the pads, it's so different from the normal blokes... so much more powerful.
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As someone who had only ever watched the sport on TV, and having no background in it, I noticed a few things.
1. Those guys are physically, the most fit athletes I have ever seen. The amount of training that goes on, even at an amateur level in incredible. Prepare to train like never before.
2. They are quick. Like, REALLY quick. Those punches were landing faster than I would have ever reacted. That can only come from a long, long period of training and practice. Keep those gloves up.
3. Throwing a punch is one thing, taking a punch is another. I came out of there with absolutely no illusion that I am tough. I would have been knocked the **** out within about, ooohh 3 seconds.
Even with gloves and head guards, and this was not even a competition remember, it was a charity night, nobody held back. If you're a pretender, get used to the taste of canvas.
Good luck
Running around wont really help as its is hard to hit womeone when you ar egoing backwards and they are going forwards
Secondly they will have th emiddle of the ring so you are always moving further than they are
Thirdly i will be very surprised if you footwork is good enough to not get you into trouble trying this you will either move the same way all the time and be predictable or cross your legs as you move. neither are good IME
get yer missus to flash her norks at the referee then kick him in the balls.
Edit - not the referee, your opponent.
Edit - Might as well do the referee as well for looking, the dirty bastard.
Err, correct me if i am wrong but this is white collar boxing. You are not supposed to be put in with the next great heavyweight hope. If you have no experience then i would sincerely hope the person you are facing is of similar stature.
My comments were more just against someone who has been shown the basics. My brother got put in with people who had boxed before and even being fit, strong and able to handle himself he said he didnt stand a chance and just windmilled and hung on.
Someone could get really hurt if you go in with someone who
1. Those guys are physically, the most fit athletes I have ever seen. The amount of training that goes on, even at an amateur level in incredible. Prepare to train like never before.
2. They are quick. Like, REALLY quick. Those punches were landing faster than I would have ever reacted. That can only come from a long, long period of training and practice. Keep those gloves up
I hope we haven't frightened pondo out of it! 😆
None of the above is true, boxing is in fact one of the easiest sports to master, and actually not physically demanding to partake in. Foot work and punch combinations are quickly learned and due to the gloves the impact is really like bumping into a person by accident. So you'll be fine.
Note: none of the above is in anyway true, but so far all you've got is good advice and the fact that, yeah it's incredibly tough, hurts and blimey you need more time.... So I thought I'd make you feel a bit better! After all it's not like you're getting into a contained area with some bloke who's sole aim is to hit you so hard in the head you faint....... 😆 😯
In honesty train hard it's really hard work and learn to cover up!! Good luck mate!!!
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