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I know living costs are high down South but cleaners make £10-£15 an hour.

Rubbish.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 3:53 pm
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[url= http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/oct/17/whitehall-cleaner-hmrc-campaign-living-wage ]15 quid an hour?[/url]


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:06 pm
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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30327717 ]the daily mashes favorite institute well almost analysis[/url] my guess will be a hike in VAT if the tories get in again and goodbye to trident if labour wins


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:12 pm
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I think we can take a VAT hike as read if George's still chancellor. Probably the first thing he'll do if, god forbid, he gets back to his desk. Its the Tory's favourite tax as it hits the poorest the hardest


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:16 pm
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My cleaner is paid £10 per hour and her other customers pay her more.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:39 pm
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Is she self-employed or is she an agency? If she's self-employed remember she's only getting paid £10 for the hour she works, she's not getting paid for the time between jobs, her effective hourly rate will be lower unless she does a solid day with a customer. Do you provide materials or does she supply those too?

All kind of trivial beside the point of "You pay her £10 per hour- is she representative". Payscale reckon the average is £6.71


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:42 pm
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It's hardly raking it in but it's double the minimum wage

Only if you are really bad at maths is £10 double the minimum wage.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:46 pm
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No agency, we provide materials, Half her week is spent in our street so she has done well on travelling between jobs of late but before she would no doubt have had more dead time in the past. It is pretty representative for my area*, admittedly an affluent part of London, some will be agency, some will be direct.

EDIT: In fact, we are at the low end.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 4:55 pm
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My hypotheses is different - tax rates are now so high that there has been a surge in the number of people who choose to be self employed - many of these have been forced off unemployment benefit and into non sustainable business ventures and are now claiming working tax credits instead

FTFY.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 5:30 pm
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Its tax efficient alright. When you don't declare you earn enough to pay tax.
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FTFY

My old cleaner even back in 2009 was on £10 an hour (cash), more now. All consumables were provided by the household. Mind I'm you not sure what that tells you, or what cleaners cost for that matter. Anyway most cleaners working through agencies seem to be foreign IME, as no UK people want to do the work.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 5:39 pm
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My old cleaner even back in 2009 was on £10 an hour (cash), more now.

I'd be happy to clean your house for £10.00 an hour, I must be in the wrong buisness.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 5:48 pm
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as no UK people want to do the work.

That's a ridiculous myth.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 5:50 pm
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Given this:

"It's a crisis about excess leverage pure and simple - the rest ie growth, fiscal positions, deficits, debts, bankers etc are symptoms not causes"

Then this story in the Telegraph on UK personal debt levels is terrifying:

[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/autumn-statement/11272773/The-Chancellor-is-banking-on-another-house-price-bubble.html ]Household debt to increase beyond 2008 levels[/url]

It suggests the government really have no idea how to pay down the debt without a massive impact on living standards - so they're just replacing the lack of wage growth and investment growth with more personal debt.

I can't see quite how this can end well at all.


 
Posted : 04/12/2014 11:01 pm
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