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[url= http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3972671039973659170 ]Beat This!: A Hip Hop History[/url] was shown on BBC2 around '84 / '85...required viewing when I was 11.


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:33 am
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[i]Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.[/i]

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So say people who lose interest in music..


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:39 am
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Kurtis Blow! Guru, Geto Boys, Eric B & Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Afrika Bambaata, De La Soul, Public Enemy, Wu Tang Clan, Nas, Biz Markie...


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:41 am
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Brainfreeze a cornerstone of hip hop?


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:51 am
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@ DezB
[i]Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.
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So say people who lose interest in music..[/i]

Don't agree! Still as interested as ever, and still finding new things to get excited about just as much as ever. John Peel was always my hero - he was still more adventurous in his 60s than most of his younger colleagues. BUT...

Hip Hop to me simply doesn't move with the pace that it did. It has become more formulaic that when it first started and everything was new by definition. Of course there is still good stuff around but it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did (to me anyway)

So - on to new things. Other genres have gone through or are going through their own equivalent purple period after Hip Hop did, whether it be Drum n Bass or whatever. The most exciting stuff to me is always the new stuff. Can't wait to hear what comes next!


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:53 am
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Of course there is still good stuff around but it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did

That's why I'll never grow tired of the lyrics in the second link above. The way its sung,the music..


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 10:57 am
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Like the stuff Del TFH did with Heiroglyphics:

Track was on the excellent DJ Kicks series album that Stereo MCs did. Speaking of whom, debut 33 45 78 was pretty decent...


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 11:24 am
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[i]Hip Hop to me simply doesn't move with the pace that it did[/i]

[i]it doesn't have the same "wow, where did that come from" impact it did[/i]

How can anything possibly have the wow factor that it did when it was new? Or move with the same pace?! Doesn't mean its not interesting and exciting anymore though.
Sorry, I just hate this "golden era" bollox! People always want to harp back rather than look for new stuff.


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 11:29 am
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This CD is a good starting point

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goes through from Jamaican dancehall influences onwards but doesn't just stick to the obvious. Worth getting [url= http://cantstopwontstop.com/ ]the book[/url] too. A good read


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 11:36 am
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This is where it all started; in a small town just outta Truro
You tube hedluv + passman to find out some true origins of hip hop. Can't link as at work.


 
Posted : 23/07/2012 12:19 pm
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Go back to the roots with Blondie.


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 8:45 am
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White Middle Classes pretending they 'get' Hip-Hop thread.


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 9:09 am
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You'll find 4 of the greatest rappers EVA! in this mid-80s list.

Boogie Down Productions (BDP)
LL Cool J
Mantronix
Public Enemy
Gang Starr
Run DMC
EPMD
Eric B & Rakim
Ice (Muda fukin) T


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 9:09 am
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Some good stuff around today but for anyone around at the time I think the early 90s years were Hip Hops golden age. We'll not see the like again.

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So say people who lose interest in music..

no, I agree with him, and its not about people losing interest in music, its about the social changes that have happened in the United States, whilst there is still a huge amount of inequality and deprevation in black communities in the US, the pressure for social change that drove the early 90's hip hop 'golden era' has gone.

its easy to forget the political undercurrent that early nineties rap and hip hop was built upon, however go back and look at the lyrics of anything from public enemy to NWA and tupac and you can see the highly political nature of so many of the songs, the songs stopped merely reflecting social problems, but became an [b]active[/b] driving force for, and of, social change - and whilst they may not have solved all the problems, this pressure certianly changed what both black and white people thought was possible... Hell, they even elected a black president.

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Posted : 24/07/2012 9:17 am
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some good (free and legal too!) downloads here that covers 30 years of hip hop @

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/history-of-hip-hop-mix


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 9:17 am
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hip hop that's cool (not bling ho's uzis) is well up at the minute
Santigold, the Tape vs rqm, Son Lux, Flobots, Dan Le Sac vs Scoobious, Low even people like Chipmunk, and Asher Roth are worth a listen.


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:13 am
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White Middle Classes pretending they 'get' Hip-Hop thread.

What are they not "getting"?


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:16 am
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sorry i was being mischevious. Of course you are right. One of the most common issues here is people trying to establish their 'street' credentials. It 's a bit pathetic really, saw this the other day when a young black lad walked into a music shop which i frequent, and pretended to 'get' Bach's toccata an fugue! Luckily there were a few of us there, and Mostyn plucked up the courage to tell the chap that it wasn't really for him.


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:38 am
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a young black lad walked into a music shop which i frequent, and pretended to 'get' Bach's toccata an fugue!

I hate it when that happens


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:39 am
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I also hate when middle class white people pretend to get Jazz..


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:54 am
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I 'get' jazz mags, is that all right?


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 10:56 am
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as long as they are suitable for your skin colour and social class


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:08 am
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Ignoring the moron that calls himself fervouredimage, that Bieber-Tupac comparison thing is utterly pointless isn't it: Commercial Pap v Specific genre - what will win in all cases?

ps. I don't get jazz [u]at all.[/u]


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:16 am
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[url= http://soundcloud.com/mr-benn/joe-driscoll-mixtape-champs-mr ]they don't make 'em like they used to[/url]


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:30 am
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[i]they don't make 'em like they used to[/i]

Good. Cos that would be really really boring. 😉


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:43 am
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innit


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:46 am
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Chuck D was on BBC news this AM.

Was excellent, that plummy lady presenting breakfast totally digs it.

Joyous.


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:51 am
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It's good fun getting Siri on the iphone to play rap tracks. I like the way he says the titles 🙂


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 11:54 am
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Some more for you to listen to, "underground" hip-hop

EL-P (from his new album)

Dälek


 
Posted : 24/07/2012 12:23 pm
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