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Pootling at Swinley Forest and, here we go again, got chased by a German Shepherd. Owner was sitting on a tree trunk. I shouted at him "get your dog under control please" and then dived into some singletrack.

Muppet owner says "Ollie" or whatever it's name was. Just the one word. Dog returns and then reappears further along the trail. Muppet owner has no chance of calling him, even if he did get off his backside.

What does concern me is that dogs pick up on peoples fear. It was important that I showed none despite this being the only breed that I have experienced to be unpredictable.

I like dogs, I used to have one and, indeed, I used to work with dogs in boarding kennels. But these days I can completely understand why people don't like them. Owners do not understand the concept of training and how it has to be ongoing and reinforced.

My ride consisted of thinking about this subject and how it needs to be addressed. So, as I have to purchase a permit, why shouldn't dog owners have to do the same? I would be happy to have a visible number on my permit provided that dogs did too. In fact if the owners were challenged, they could show a permit.

Calming down now. 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:47 pm
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No block capitals? Perfect grammar and punctuation? Good use of paragraphs and no stupidly long sentences?

-2/10


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:50 pm
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Just out of interest, what do you need a permit for?


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:51 pm
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, what do you need a permit for?

Riding in Swinley.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:52 pm
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without a permit she can't letch at long haired rock gods from the 70's.....it's the law apparently


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:53 pm
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Crown Estate public liability insurance and maintenance.

Sorry RealMan. I'll try better next time. 😳


 
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A badly drawn diagram done on ms paint would work wonders too.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:54 pm
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Lol at tazzy. 😆


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:56 pm
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anything to make you smile c_g 😀


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:57 pm
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It's all your fault.
He was only being playful.
You just don't understand.
My dog has a right to be anywhere.
He was under control all of the time.
He only wanted to sniff you[s]r leg[/s].

Is that it just about covered?


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 4:58 pm
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Pwn it with a pair of these:

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Posted : 16/02/2011 4:59 pm
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wear arm protectors as 'bike armour', let the dog come at you and hold up your arm for it bite the protector, then punch as hard as you can under its jaw to snap it. Self defence your honour.


 
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I'd of killed it and eaten it, if i aint on a lead it's a wild animal and therefore a free meal.

Also GS fur is alot better than mink, not so waterproof but that's not the point of niche fashion.


 
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It's all your fault.
He was only being playful.
You just don't understand.
My dog has a right to be anywhere.
He was under control all of the time.
He only wanted to sniff your leg.

Druid(h), you're being a little OTT here.

I can control my dogs; a one-word command is all I need for them to return to me. And if someone said I needed to have a licence to demonstrate that my dogs are at least reasonably responsive, or indeed to walk in a particular area, so be it. I've yet to have a single person fail to be charmed by my dogs (even my f-i-l, who used to be deeply scared of all canines), and have never had an incident of them chasing or bothering anyone. People tend to approach them rather than the other way round.

Most owners would report something similar. Unfortunately, it's the 5% of thoughtless dog owners who cause the problems. Well, that and the 0.5% of total meatheads who all seem to have staff x which they then proceed to treat appallingly badly.


 
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I used to get this all the time when I ran.My favourite was a well dressed woman in a public park in Rotherham,with a large Rottweiler,whch was crapping on the chidren's football pitch.As I approached,I shouted "Control your dog",she replied "He won't hurt you",
at this point he was growling and running towards me.I shouted "control your dog or I will,and the dog may suffer",It got within 2 metres of me still snarling,I went into attack stance,and as I waited,shelept on the the dog which was trying to get after me.If you can't control them,you shouldn't have them.I was rather hoping it would get free.
Ian


 
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Unfortunately, it's the 50% of stupid dog owners who cause the problems. Well, that and the 0.5% of total meatheads who all seem to have staff x which they then proceed to treat appallingly badly.FTFY.
Ian


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:15 pm
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I went into attack stance

Something like this?

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Not surprising she was keen to get out of the area!


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:15 pm
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Good job your not a sheep.

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Riding home the other day and dog walker had 6 collies going mental [of the lead (s)]. No control whatsoever.. I didn't even retort.

I feel for the people who have a fear of dogs they must be being getting serious cabin fever by now.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:16 pm
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Jesmond, you have a problem with 50% of the dogs you meet? Honestly?


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:17 pm
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No,my problem is with the 50% of dog owners who cannot control their dogs,and don't appear to care what risk this poses to other people.
Ian


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:19 pm
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C_G, carry dead badger decoys and throw them to distract the marauding canines!


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:22 pm
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Clearly all dogs are ludicrously dangerous, all owners are idiots and shooting them (all of them, owners as well) is the way forward.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:28 pm
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nickf YEAH. Thats a good start 😉


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:31 pm
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It's not the dogs per se that are dangerous,it's idiots who can't control them,but your solution is surprisingly realistic and straightforward for a dog owner,when can we start?
Ian


 
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I ride through Ashton Court everyday, its a popular dog toilet. A handy shortcut for me slightly hampered by the amount of insane unpredictable canines milling around out of control. But then you've got to exercise your dog somewhere, and most dogs need to let off steam somewhere, so I'm content to leave them be provided they're not actually sinking their teeth into my calf.


 
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chased by a dog off the lead and owner not doing anything?

why not carry a piece of string, attach to collar, take dog for nice long walkies, leave tied to gate 12 miles away from owner. viz top tips #238


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:43 pm
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See get your self back up here and not see a soul all day in the hills never mind a dog. 😀


 
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I've found the answer http://koreanfood.about.com/od/koreanfoodbasics/f/DogMeat.htm
Ian


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 5:46 pm
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I saw this, and thought 'why would you need a pair of engineer's squares to fend off a dog?' 😳

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chased by a dog off the lead and owner not doing anything?

why not carry a piece of string, attach to collar, take dog for nice long walkies, leave tied to gate 12 miles away from owner. viz top tips #238

I've done that. But not accentually used string our anything. The owner called the dog as it snarling at my annkle {I bitched about a lead etc.} as usual it took no notice and chased me which became a follow considering I was egging it along after getting its name (Benji or something). After about a mile I left the dog on it's todd (just for the worry wort dog owners it was still in sight of the owner, but they had a longer walk/run than normal in tell).

Ironically when returning at the end of the ride on the same route the same owner was out with the dog again. Seen me approaching and promptly put it on lead...when I passed I was called CHILDISH ;-)[and they were right ;-)] Mayby so, but they didn't have to do another epic walk/run.


 
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Passed a couple walking a dog along the canal the other day. Slowed right down to pass them, then having done so and exchanged pleasantries I started to accelerate. Suddenly another dog shoots out from the bushes right in front of my wheel. So accelerating hard, out the saddle, weight over the front, I jam the brakes on. Somersault with bike over the dog missing it completely.

To be fair they did come and apologies as I was lying in a heap on the towpath trying to untangle myself from my bike, but a word of warning about their other dog on the loose would have been more appreciated.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:06 pm
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I doglicker
I lick dog


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:09 pm
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I miss tandemjeremy a bit right now.


 
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Plenty of snarling bitches off the lead on a usual night out in Bridgwater or Taunton.
Most of them harmless strays, i blame Thatcher.


 
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If the dog's not going back to it's owner, encourage it to come along with you and keep riding? Owner might be a bit more attentive next time.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:23 pm
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http://www.dazer2.com/

group buy anyone?


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:41 pm
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Prefer to tazer the owners really - way more fun. After all as the owners put it there just dogs.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:51 pm
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WTF is the Attack Stance!? 😆


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 6:53 pm
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Having been bitten a couple of times, I do get scared of dogs and hate it when I come across one off the lead.
Love to be able to just shoot the things, irresponsible owners and irrational dogs.


 
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I hate agro with dogs when we are riding, we got chased by 6 farm dogs a few months ago and I swear if I had the means too I'd have slaughtered the lot of them and left them on the effin road. Agree that there seem to be many more irresponsible dog owners out there nowadays. Think half of the problem is that dogs have become surrogate babies and not dogs which is just stupid.


 
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WTF is the Attack Stance!?

I did one of those to a cow at the top of Cavedale in the peak district as it was looking all agro at me.

Bit like this
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As opposed to the more likely stance of the average STW'r.
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Lol, that sumo is exactly what I look like when I squat. 🙄


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:20 pm
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It's no wonder your hubby to be asked you to marry him then. 😉

I'd of asked first if i knew you like it like that.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:25 pm
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Are those his pubes sticking out the side of his nappy?


 
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That plus being a speccy 4 eyes, it's no wonder men come falling at my feet daily 🙂


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:27 pm
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Do you think it sounded anything like "Wolfie"? My neighbour has an aggressive German Shepherd called Wolfie and really needs a proper good shoeing.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:28 pm
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option 2

http://www.bite-back.net/


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:40 pm
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That's it - I've reached the end of my tether...

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Invoice is in the post.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:45 pm
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option 3

http://www.beststungun.com/dog-control.html


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 7:48 pm
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interesting opions here, love the "how to get the pit bull off your kid / dog technique"

http://www.actionstunguns.com/dogproblems.htm


 
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I own and have owned dogs! They are by law ment to be on a lead in public places and under control! I don't care what breed it is or how many, a loud shout and a well placed kick dog or owner I'm not fazed. it really pisses me off whether im walking or on my bike! Dogs are Dogs owner's on the other hand vary in level of intelligence!


 
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Don't come to Germany. Dogsh*t covering every bit of grass here 🙁


 
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I miss tandemjeremy a bit right now.

I've entered the thread criteria into the [i]autoTJ[/i] app and it says:

Red Deer overpopulation is a severe and widespread problem in Scotland.

oops sorry wrong button...

Its really simple - the dog must be under control and its a criminal offense if it gives someone reasonable cause to be scared. Just causing annoyance and nuisance is wrong but is not a criminal offense just a civil one. Either way its an irresponsible dog owner.

There you go


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 9:09 pm
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Blimey, didn't expect such a response!

Some of your replies really did make me giggle, so that's good. 😀

But I think owners just can't be ar$ed to train a dog, after all some of them do like to have their iphone glued to their ear or their ipod stuck in their eardrums.

Thing is, I had a similar problem about a month ago there and resorted to attempting to kick the yapping creature cos I was sick of it being close to my front wheel.

I have actually ridden with a girl who is terrified of dogs. In fact, she will not actually ride on her own.

Oh, and TSY, I think it's [b]YOU[/b] who needs tethering ... away from that keyboard of yours. 😉


 
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Posted : 16/02/2011 9:24 pm
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Lol 😆


 
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Very topical thread for me, was walking round to see my old ma last sunday when all of a sudden a border collie popped out from behind a hedge.
I carried on walking along the pavement and it just went for me, lucky I had baggy old joggers on because it ripped a hole in them rather than my leg

It then ran into its house, knocked and spoke to the owner who was a very nice lady, but I was a bit shouty mostly due to shock and said i was going to call the old bill

Calmed down and went and saw ma, had a cuppa, decided against the old bill business and knocked at the house on my return. The owner was very apologetic, did say that perhaps she should muzzle the dog as it was obviously a tad dangerous. She was a bit weepy and said they were going to have it put down. Apparently the doq was nippy when younger and would never forgive herself if it attacked a child

All rather sad really, sort of wish I had just ignored it, but know how bad I would have felt if I read that a kid had been bitten and I could have prevented it.


 
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I yetibiter


 
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That got a giggle.


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 9:54 pm
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In hindsight, as I was on my own, perhaps I shouldn't have raised my voice at the owner. The easy option is always to ignore things but why shouldn't you stand up and be counted?

Thankfully, I think this type of problem is encountered mainly where there is a public car park. Certainly on my X-C routes, I never have this problem.

drac - Yes, I would love to return to your beautiful county. 😀 But I have to say that last summer I definitely saw more people when riding. Could of course have been the valleys although fortunately my favourite descent, Whitefield Hill, was empty. 8)


 
Posted : 16/02/2011 10:05 pm
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TSY - stop posting such ghastly pics. 🙁

darcy - do I have to nag for the latest pic of Molly? 😉


 
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Wow what a bunch of tosspots some of you are. Killing dogs, lovely people. Tell you what come meet my dog he's friendly and nice and a bit puppyish. Then you can attempt to kill him. But be warned i will take you apart bit by bit. Wa**ers!

I'm outta this forum.


 
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Killing dogs, lovely people.

who? where?

Tell you what come meet my dog he's friendly and nice and a bit puppyish

they always are....

Then you can attempt to kill him. But be warned i will take you apart bit by bit. Wa**ers!

more likely legging it to the car park before the plod turn up when your "puppy" gets over excited

I'm outta this forum.

nooo! stay please!


 
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I went into attack stance,I was rather hoping it would get free.
Ian

Haw haw! Jesus Christ. Genuine laughter right there.

I was hoping it would get free too Ian. :mrgreen:

Guns and ammo ftw


 
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They are by law ment to be on a lead in public places

I really shouldn't rise to the bait.

The Control of Dogs Order 1992 requires all dogs, in a public place, to wear a collar which has the name & address of the owner on it (or on a tag attached to the collar).

My dogs comply with this. But I challenge you to find [b]any[/b] piece of legislation that requires dogs to be kept on a lead.

There is one exception to this; The Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005 empowers local authorities to designate areas of land (including footpaths) where dogs must be kept on a lead. These areas need to be well-signposted and are very limited in number; I've never seen one.


 
Posted : 17/02/2011 8:43 am
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Blimey, that was a slight overreaction from kevonakona! I had to study the thread hard to find what he was on about ... nutter!


 
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I generally have no problems with dogs, I like them, but back in autumn was riding through the woods (yes, legal) when 3 nasty little yappy white things started barking at me. Two were just joining in but the third little s**t meant it - it tried to bite but I kicked at it and it ran off. Then it steamed back, straight in and bit my ankle. I was off my bike seeing red and running after it swearing my head off. The daft boot of an owner just gawped so I suggested that she might like to control it as it had bitten me - much like the sheep thread, she then denied it woould ever do such a thing so I showed her the blood running out of my ankle. She just walked off so I told her I would report it to the police who would find her and have her little treasure put to sleep. I didn't but I hope that got through her thick skull.


 
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