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Passengers evacuating with their carry on luggage = tosseurs

Witness = Reggie Bugmuncher... Yes really... ๐Ÿ˜€

Lucky escape, damage looks very very significant <gulp>


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:22 am
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Top work by the cabin crew getting them off. If someone was ferreting around in the overhead lockers stopping me and my kids getting out, they'd get a punch in the nuts.

Here is a photo of Ms Bugmuncher in action:

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Posted : 09/09/2015 8:25 am
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As usual, the only injuries sustained were as a result of using the slides.

Good work by the BA crew and airfield emergency services.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:25 am
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Posted : 09/09/2015 8:35 am
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If someone was ferreting around in the overhead lockers stopping me and my kids getting out, they'd get a punch in the nuts.

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Reckon I could get my bags out and be on the slide before people managed to move with their kids ๐Ÿ˜‰
I guess it depends how urgent the evac was.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:38 am
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it depends how urgent the evac was

It's a plane, full of jet fuel, that is on fire.

I'd assume PRETTY ****ING URGENT! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

Screw the hand luggage - I'd be choosing my favourite kid and legging it.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:54 am
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I believe the urgent evac simulations they do result in broken bones and ripped up seats...
Keeping people calm, not clambering over each other and leaving through the right exits may look slower but be quicker and safer for all involved.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:56 am
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t's a plane, full of jet fuel, that is on fire.

I'd assume PRETTY ****ING URGENT!


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 8:57 am
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Apparently they deployed the slides on the fire side - again and stopped crosswind (wind blowing the fire towards the aircraft) - again. Shades of Manchester...


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 9:00 am
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not clambering over each other and leaving through the right exits may look slower but be quicker and safer for [s]all involved[/s]. [b]those near the exits[/b]


 
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If someone was ferreting around in the overhead lockers stopping me and my kids getting out, they'd get a punch in the nuts.

Reckon I could get my bags out and be on the slide before people managed to move with their kids
I guess it depends how urgent the evac was.

Yup, agree with that.

Good work by all the crew though.. Must have been a tense few moments.. ๐Ÿ˜ฏ


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 9:12 am
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Which bit? My ultra-aggressive protecting my genetic material, or his devil-may-care protecting his passport and iPad? ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 9:14 am
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Let's not rush to judgement with the crosswind thing: if this happened while he was taxying out he may not have had a good idea where the wind was coming from. It would also require a 180 turn which may not have been advisable with the engine on fire.
Can't believe there are people carrying [b]two[/b] bags off the plane. They should be prosecuted.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 10:22 am
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those carrying bags off should be prosecuted for endangering lives.

this might sound far fetched but I fly a lot and think this is the only way it would sort numpties out. I also think over head lockers should be automatically locked for taxi/take off and until the seatbelt signs go off after landing and park up.


 
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I also think over head lockers should be automatically locked for taxi/take off and until the seatbelt signs go off after landing and park up.

Ditto. And carry-on sizes and weights are not policed enough as it is (other than easyjet!). I also think lockers should be locked on initial embarkation, and only opened once everyone is on the plane at their seats, but thats just because i get annoyed by idiots who cant seem to short their stuff out and block aisles.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 10:32 am
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I also think over head lockers should be automatically locked for taxi/take off and until the seatbelt signs go off after landing and park up.

That sounds like an excellent idea. I've seen the stewards have to shout at people who stood up to get their bags when the wheels had literally just hit the tarmac and we were still hurtling along the runway!

Where do think they are going?


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 10:32 am
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those carrying bags off should be prosecuted for endangering lives.

This. Absolutely. Some people!


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 10:35 am
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those carrying bags off should be prosecuted for endangering lives.

Given that the plane was full of people who think Las Vegas, a place so utterly full of banality, shallowness and materialism, is a good place to visit, this does not actually surprise me.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 10:44 am
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Given that the plane was full of people who think Las Vegas, a place so utterly full of banality, shallowness and materialism, is a good place to visit, this does not actually surprise me.

To be fair there are a lot of conferences held there, due to the cheap (subsidised) hotel prices.


 
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True. And I shouldn't make fun of what is an incredibly serious situation. But seeing the pictures of people taking luggage is just incredulous.

As incredulous as the King Knuts who blithely sit reading their paper whenever the safety briefing is given.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:11 am
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Its location irrelevant, the same happens on many many flights. Like ants in pants.

EDIT: if you fly a lot the safety briefing is almost irrelevant, you could repeat it back word for word. I could. However I also feel its fairly irrelevant cos if the plane is about to crash, yer pretty much doomed.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:14 am
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ut seeing the pictures of people taking luggage is just incredulous.

Definitely, if they can be prosecuted they should be.

As incredulous as the King Knuts who blithely sit reading their paper whenever the safety briefing is given.

If you're a regular flier why would you listen? I don't fly much more than once a year, but even then I can tell you exactly what's in the safety briefing. The only point of interest is the location of the exits, and again that's pretty obvious.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:15 am
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I also think over head lockers should be automatically locked for taxi/take off and until the seatbelt signs go off after landing and park up.

Agree in full! Also, if you can't carry it, you can't have it as carry on.

Given that the plane was full of people who think Las Vegas, a place so utterly full of banality, shallowness and materialism, is a good place to visit, this does not actually surprise me.

I hate the place, but have to go there a few times a year for work. Leave your judgement land side, thanks! ๐Ÿ˜‰

(FWIW, though, I always take the LHR flight. I prefer the 747 )


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:19 am
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If you're a regular flier why would you listen?

Well you might pick up on the bit about not taking your cabin baggage in the event of an evacuation. I fly fairly frequently, I even work in aviation and I make a point of listen to the briefing. Out of courtesy to the people doing it if not for anything else.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:24 am
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LOL, the briefing doesn't even tell you where the exits are. I could probably recite them back these days, my ears did pick up when they declared the life vest was infact a floating pillow that was the seat cushion...

A320/330/767/777/dash 8 and a few more. Do this, don't do that and get out the doors


 
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Posted : 09/09/2015 11:25 am
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Whenever I hear the safety briefing I always think of Fight Club and the more realistic "safety" cards used in it..


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:28 am
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If you're a regular flier why would you listen?
Why would you not listen? Got something more important to do? It only takes a minute, you might pick up something useful, it pushes the info to the front of your mind and it's polite.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:29 am
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I fly fairly frequently, I even work in aviation and I make a point of listen to the briefing. Out of courtesy to the people doing it if not for anything else.

Same here. Also, I find I get better service in return by being courteous and polite when travelling.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:31 am
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It's all in the presentation


 
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Why would you not listen? Got something more important to do?

I was asleep on the last one, not really my fault, I would probably have woken up if we had crashed but I'm not 100% on that one.
When you last heard the briefing 2 hrs previously I know you should but I could be into another podcast by then


 
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Whenever I hear the safety briefing I always think of Fight Club and the more realistic "safety" cards used in it.
I like the Not the 9 O'Clock News one.

"When disaster strikes, there may a slight loss of cabin pressure, and a reduction in the number of wings"

"Next, remove any sharp objects from your person - like red hot fragments of engine casing - and make your way to the exits"


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 11:38 am
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Why would you not listen? Got something more important to do? It only takes a minute, you might pick up something useful, it pushes the info to the front of your mind and it's polite.

Why not listen? You're reading your book, trying to fall asleep, keeping your kids quiet, loads of reasons really. Although I should say that I do usually listen despite knowing it pretty much off by heart already. It's a fair point about it being polite, though.


 
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Same here. Also, I find I get better service in return by being courteous and polite when travelling.

think of the extra fuel wasted trying to achieve an altitude that safely clears your moral high ground without scaring the high horse your sitting on, though.


 
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LOL, the briefing doesn't even tell you where the exits are.

Were you being ironic or a ****?

I hate the place, but have to go there a few times a year for work. Leave your judgement land side, thanks!

Point taken. Apols.


 
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LOL, the briefing doesn't even tell you where the exits are.
Were you being ironic or a ****?

How many have you gone through in the last 3 months?

Exits are blah, make sure you know, lights will guide you, signs tell you. Though waving hands a bit don't really help, but as usual they are front. back on wings and easy to find


 
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How many have you gone through in the last 3 months?

Enough to know that they make a point of telling you where they are located and then pointing them out.

Personally I make a point of first noting which is really the closest and then second, counting the number of seats infront/behind I need to go before I get there.


 
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I can't remember the last time I didn't have an exit row seat in economy (as a cheap way of getting a bit more space), but this has further validated my decision ๐Ÿ™‚


 
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How many have you gone through in the last 3 months?

8 flights (5 long haul) in the last 3 months. Number of different planes, sitting in different locations means exits were different (last long haul nearest exit was in another class behind curtain). Life-jackets were fastened in different ways (or non-existent for US planes). Illuminated low level lighting was different in them too, also how to open the overwing doors.


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 12:35 pm
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All I get is hand wafting, again front/back/wings, it might be that I spend my time on very similar planes and I remember where they all are. I could give row numbers if you want but I'm happy to sleep through it when I'm absolutely knackered.

Do you check where the exits are on the bus?


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 12:36 pm
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I couldn't believe it when I saw the passengers standing on the apron with their luggage. Completely agree that they should be fined and named and shamed.

Always, always listen to everything said during the safety briefing. I've witnessed brave cabin crew tapping passengers on the shoulder for not paying attention.


 
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I can't remember the last time I didn't have an exit row seat in economy (as a cheap way of getting a bit more space), but this has further validated my decision

Looks like the wing might've been a bit burny on this occasion ๐Ÿ˜‰ 50-50 chance I suppose!


 
Posted : 09/09/2015 12:43 pm
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Having a listen to the ATC audio... how calm are all concerned.


 
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All I get is hand wafting, again front/back/wings, it might be that I spend my time on very similar planes and I remember where they all are. I could give row numbers if you want but I'm happy to sleep through it when I'm absolutely knackered.

Well perhaps you should try listening to the what they say as that will tell you how many exits there are and the rough location. Knowing the row number isn't very helpful but knowing the number of rows inform/behind is. Personally I always have quick look at that, check the brace position for that aircraft in case it is different and have a quick check that the life jacket is where it is supposed to be. Then again I work in offshore industry and have to sit through safety briefings for every flight and if you don't look like you are paying attention you get thrown off the flight.


 
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