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http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2018/07/08/rescued-first-boys-rescued-from-cave/

The first boy to exit the cave was 13-year-old Mongkol Boonpiam at 5:40pm.

He walked out and appeared to be in good health, followed by another at 5:50pm. The third and fourth boys were brought out at 7:35pm and 7:47pm, but one was said to be “closely monitored.”

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Narongsak Osottanakorn, the former Chiang Rai governor and rescue operation chief, announced in the morning that the boys would be brought out in pairs, with two divers accompanying each one of them. He insisted that all were 100 percent ready, both physically and mentally.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 3:48 pm
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If they get them all out and all the rescuers it will be a major achievement. Everything crossed.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 3:49 pm
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Saw this on BBC...

Not all super heroes wear capes, some wear wetsuits.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 3:50 pm
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The rescue has been concluded for the night and will resume in 10-20 hours because “we’ve used all the oxygen,” according to the operation chief.

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The operation is set to resume at 8am local time


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 4:17 pm
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I can't imagine how tormenting it must be for their families. I can barely even look at the live updates for fear of bad news instead of good.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 4:43 pm
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fingers crossed still.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 4:45 pm
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Are they waiting till daylight to bring the next lot out?


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 9:48 pm
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Replenishing the oxygen supplies I believe. No doubt the logistics are running 24/7 ahead of next extraction tomorrow. Legends all of them


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 9:51 pm
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I was wondering this, maybe its not just refilling the cylinders, maybe they have to replenish the cylinders & then replace them at strategic places along the route. If so, its a lot more graft & risk for the teams involved than just refilling the cylinders, they then have to get them back into position prior for the next wave of extrication's to take place. A non stop behind the scenes operation that will require logistical precision. Hats off to all involved.


 
Posted : 08/07/2018 10:59 pm
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BBC and ITV news claimed only 4 rescued but did also say there was a 10 hour 'rest' for the divers so they were good to go for the next cycle.

Fantastic effort by everyone, hopefully the success will continue.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 8:05 am
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Are they waiting till daylight to bring the next lot out?

Chapeau!


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 8:31 am
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Some really interesting comments about the coach on Twitter:

"Ekapol Chanthawong lost his whole family as a kid. He trained as a monk & then devoted his life to helping coach kids. He kept 12 children alive in a cave without food or light for 9 days. He will be last to leave tomorrow & is only 25. Remember him!"

"Let’s commend the Thai coach for keeping 12 teen boys alive for weeks with no food, sunlight or water. He helped them meditate to save energy.  A real example of resilience, optimism and breaking the barrier of fear."

I wonder what the future holds for this amazing young man?


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:38 am
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I wonder what the future holds for this amazing young man?

I think it depends on who gets hold of him, the media or the military. If the gets to the world cup final it might be worth him getting lost on the way home.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:42 am
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I hope the (justified) euphoria around 4 boys getting out isn't too premature, there is a hell of a long way to go until everyone, boys, coach and rescuers are all out safely.

If they pull this off it will be a masterclass in rescue. To coordinate a massive international team to undertake a rescue of this scale is stunning. Some reports are saying over 1000 people involved. An effort like this should really require months of planning, they have had to pull it off in not many days. Lots of heroes going into the caves, lots of heroes sitting in the background working out logistics, medical, media, vehicles, power, food etc etc.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:45 am
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Sounds a bit like the Vulcan raids on PS in 1982. You need full cylinders for the divers and the boys to switch to on the way out, but that means they have to be carried in by divers who also need enough air to get back out again which may in turn mean they need other divers to carry in those cylinders for them..... and while each calculation is simple, multiply it by the numbers involved and pretty quickly I'm surrounded by scraps of paper and worn out pencils and 'maybe if I start again from the beginning'

Amazing, I don't do prayers but I'm offering up my own version.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:50 am
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Some really interesting comments about the coach on Twitter:

“Ekapol Chanthawong lost his whole family as a kid. He trained as a monk & then devoted his life to helping coach kids. He kept 12 children alive in a cave without food or light for 9 days. He will be last to leave tomorrow & is only 25. Remember him!”

“Let’s commend the Thai coach for keeping 12 teen boys alive for weeks with no food, sunlight or water. He helped them meditate to save energy.  A real example of resilience, optimism and breaking the barrier of fear.”

I wonder what the future holds for this amazing young man?

Isn't he also the bloke who led them into the cave in the first place though??


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:57 am
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I know this may be slightly off-topic, but this is all reminding me of a book I've read/film I've seen where in addition to the main story there is a seemingly incidental background story going on with a boy stuck down a well/in a cave, told via news reports. Does that ring any bells with anyone? I'd love to know what it is, because it's making me feel really uneasy.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 10:57 am
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From the BBC

 The four boys who have already been rescued have not been able to see their families yet as they are in quarantine.<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">- Their families have not been told which children have already been rescued.</span>

I thought they'd named at least two of the boys, and excuse my ignorance but why would they be held in quarantine? Because of their weakened physical state they don't won't them catching anything?


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 11:22 am
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One thought would be given how tense and emotional it is there telling the families who got picked first to come out could go very badly


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 11:26 am
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Fingers crossed for those remaining.

How long until Holywood takes it on but changes the location to the USA and American kids. Also, the coaches to have some sort of redemption backstory.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 11:45 am
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One thought would be given how tense and emotional it is there telling the families who got picked first to come out could go very badly

armchair analysts - who would you pick to go first? the best swimmer/fittest/least scared with the best chance of survival; or the weakest/may not survive another day. And if it was you in there, would you want to go first or last?


 
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I think I'd choose the ones least scared as it would be least likely to scare the others. Having someone panic wouldn't be ideal for those watching.

Not sure about the second question, probably one of the earlier ones.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:10 pm
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This is really good news.

No idea what must be going through the lads minds, nor those that performing the rescues.

But hey, they all need congratulating.

👍👍


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:11 pm
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I would have thought with all the food and medicines taken in, the fact a Doctor has been with them etc they should all be in reasonable condition for the journey out.  If two divers are with every boy, there should be too much that can go wrong........hell of a story though!


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:18 pm
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armchair analysts – who would you pick to go first?

They've already explained this IIRC, they're bringing out the sickest first.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:18 pm
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You need full cylinders for the divers and the boys to switch to on the way out, but that means they have to be carried in by divers who also need enough air to get back out again which may in turn mean they need other divers to carry in those cylinders for them….. and while each calculation is simple, multiply it by the numbers involved and pretty quickly I’m surrounded by scraps of paper and worn out pencils and ‘maybe if I start again from the beginning’

Add to that the fact that there are two different fittings for the air cylinders (the UK divers had to take load of adaptors) as well as the added complication that some are diving on compressed air and some diving with homemade oxygen rebreathers........


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:25 pm
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According to one of the BCR people interviewed last week, the rescuers will administer a mild sedative to relax the rescuee and which prevents them from panicking. He seemed to suggest it was standard practice in cave dive rescue.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:27 pm
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Sky reporting 5th boy out now


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:29 pm
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Yeah! First boy from second rescue wave. All seems promising 🙂


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:32 pm
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I reckon this will make a good film for Manchester's own Danny Boyle to direct, same as127 hours.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:43 pm
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the fact that there are two different fittings for the air cylinders

That isn't really an issue, very simple an common adaptors.

This is an incredible story, just hope it all ends well. I can't imagine what it would be like if they don't get them all out before it rains.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 12:51 pm
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That isn’t really an issue, very simple an common adaptors.

Yes, A-Clamps are easy enough to get hold of - I used to have to take them to Egypt when I went diving as I always used DIN fittings when diving in the UK.

I'm surprised though as I would have thought the cave divers would have used small higher pressure cylinders (something like 300bar 7l), which IIRC you can't use A-Clamp on.

Those cave divers are another breed - great work by them. When I dived I wouldn't enter anything I couldn't see the other side of.


 
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Yes, A-Clamps are easy enough to get hold of

Not in Thailand apparantly, they had to be flown out from the UK

https://www.xray-mag.com/content/cave-divers-mallinson-and-jewel-fly-out-thailand

Anyway, great news that more children are being brought out https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/09/thai-cave-rescue-resumes-to-free-eight-boys-and-coach-still-trapped-latest-news


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 1:36 pm
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Lets hope everyone now makes it out safely.

The  British divers should all get knighted.  Much more worthy than any celebrity or footballer which appears to be the norm these days


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 1:52 pm
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Bit worried about reports of ambulances leaving but no announcements.


 
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Bit worried about reports of ambulances leaving but no announcements.

This was the same when the first kids were rescued, it took a while for them to actually confirm that the boys had made it out safely.


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 2:54 pm
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FunkyDunc + 1.

Reuters are reporting that 4 of the lads have been brought out. Brings the total to 8!!!!!!!

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-thailand-accident-cave/rescuers-bring-eighth-person-out-of-thai-cave-on-second-day-of-rescue-witness-idUKKBN1JZ05S?il=0


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 2:56 pm
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CNN saying that rescue being suspended for today


 
Posted : 09/07/2018 3:05 pm
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Looks like two more are out now. That's 2 kids and the teacher to go plus the rescue crew including the doctor that have been in the cave for a while.


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:16 pm
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10 kids out now.


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:24 pm
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fingers and toes are crossed, but it looks like they might pull this off......

Not tempting fate until we know the rescue crew can all get out too. As well as the ones in the boys' cave, there could be dozens at various stations along the route.


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:26 pm
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Wow, what great news. Opened thread with trepidation, but looking good for the Wild Boars so far.


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:35 pm
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Oooh it is 11. I changed my post 11 to 10 as other sites reported nothing on the 11th.


 
Posted : 10/07/2018 12:37 pm
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The logistics and coordination of this rescue is just off the scale. I hope so much they pull this off and limit their loses to just the one diver lost.


 
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Was chatting to a friend overseas who is a cave dive rescue guy, some of his colleagues are there, he isn't as he broke his ankle biking - he's of the opinion that they must be heavi;y sedating them and packaging them up to get them out as in his words 'a rational person who doesn't cave dive would panic in that environment, but you wouldn't if you were absolutely clueless'. All in all, so far, an exceptional peformance. Fingers well and truly crossed.


 
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