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This severe recruitment crisis meant that 69,000 to 186,000 engineering workers left the UK each year since 2016 to be replaced with only 46,000 engineering students and apprenticeships.
Surely the large numbers leaving created the recruitment crisis, not the other way round? If they left, why did they leave? If there was a shortage of them, they should have been in high demand and therefore In a strong position to bargain for higher wages and perks? Or is it a case of UK employers not being willing to fork out for talent?
Choice between a country that has pursued deliberate policies of wage control and export driven economy, or a place whose economic plan since the 80s was to invite lots of very rich people to park their money here. Hmmmmm. Tough one.
If you can’t get key staff, then you move operations to where you can, moving lots more jobs in the process.
This is what people don’t get, if you keep key people out (or just make it an absolutely ballache to get them in) it doesn’t just mean that job is lost, it makes this the wrong country to operate in, and so why site here and employ anything beyond the minimum for this newly cut off territory? When the state controls migration with a heavy hand, it stifles industry and costs jobs.
**** business!
As some would say.
I know of an accountant who refused to use a PC and stuck to paper, he was made redundant.
Yeah, I've known a few of those Intentional Luddites over the years. Eg, one woman working in Finance, wanting help with Excel, commenting "I don't know anything about this computer shit."
1) Thanks for dismissing my entire career as "shit."
2) You're in Accounts, this is Excel, it is literally your job to know this "shit." I use Excel like twice a year, if I can work out how to do what you're wanting to do by looking at the menus for the options you need, why can't you? It's like a carpenter complaining that they don't understand how hammers work FFS.
We’ve got various systemic problems in the UK which may have been more important, less important than brexit in this going to Germany.
I don't disagree, and apologies if I misunderstood before, it was the apparent glossing-over of the fact that brexit might have anything to do with it at all that I was complaining about.
If there was a shortage of them, they should have been in high demand and therefore In a strong position to bargain for higher wages and perks? Or is it a case of UK employers not being willing to fork out for talent?
The exchange rate collapse hasn't helped. 3-4 years ago, my salary was almost the the equivalent of a German Engineers salary with the £/euro exchange rate at 1.4+. Now, with the exchange rate at 1.15, I've effectively taken a 20+% salary reduction. In addition, their wages have increased at a rate of 4-5%, the UK wage hasn't. This meant that a lot of UK talent has moved France and Germany. The former has better condition, the latter better wages. in both cases they're better than the UK. It's a similar story for the US.
In addition, many established employers have pay scale bounds which they're not allowed to cross, this means that say a systems engineer in the UK will enter a payscale that has bounds of £35-50k. In Germany, those bounds might be 65-95Keuro for the same job in the same company...where would you chose to work?
This obviously means that UK labour is cheap to the continent, but it doesn't encourage highly skilled people to come and work here for less money.
It’s like a carpenter complaining that they don’t understand how hammers work FFS.
Carpenters rarely use hammers these days, you Luddite!
It’s not just Berlin, I know top talent (brain the size of a planet people) who’ve gone to Amsterdam… all sorts of brain powered industries are making that their favoured site for the eggheads. Better quality of life, better pay now the £ has dropped, etc. Oh, and being born outside the UK… they went where they are acknowledged as helping rather being blamed by those running the country.
where would you chose to work?
That was kind of my point. It wasn't a recruitment crisis that caused the shortage, it was the shortage that caused the recruitment crisis. And the shortage was caused by....employers who had policies held over from the feudal serf days, not one that acknowledged the reality of competing for talent.
Although VMware doesn't pay excessively well, and no one gets more than minimum holiday allowance, no matter how senior you are when you join and they don't have a lot of problems.
A German view on electric cars
^that’s a great video thanks for sharing.
Go Norway.
There are already plenty of German made electric only cars on the roads around here. If they are behind Norway, what are we?!?
factory-farmed lukewarm sausage roll at a boot-sale, with a styrofoam cup of tea in rainy Rhyl’ at the minute
In the field opposite Sainsbury’s and Pizza Hut?
Don’t care that Tesla has went to Germany. Didn’t even know they were building a European factory.