Ahh OK, I'm not local, apologies. Many of those stories come from the local tavern by me.
Most new builds don't actually have planning in place when the works start on site and the developers assume everything will be fine.
Sometimes you have a slight hiccup which is normally sorted before it becomes a news item. Here I see it was a bit mare than a hiccup.
From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?
From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?
500 mostly low paid jobs and training in how to stack shelves. Marvellous.
Not to mention that it's taking away from independent shops which tend to pay better, use more local suppliers and treat their staff like human beings.
They're basically saying 'we'll do what we want because we employ people' and you're fine with that?
Must be the week Tesco take a kicking...
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/sep/03/tesco-woolwich-carbuncle-cup-architectural-prize
you're fine with that?
500 local jobs in one area?
That can only be a good thing.
The reason the pay is so low? Demand for work and Tesco know it - that's shit.
The good independents will always be there.
Tesco won't take their staff because as you say, the salary is higher.
500 local jobs in one area?
That can only be a good thing.
Not really if it takes jobs away from independents who employ more people to do the same work (oh noes they aren't as efficient) and put much more of their money/profits back into the local economy.
Good, kick them when they are down too.............
I don't like Tesco so I don't shop there. Nor Asda.
That's about it really.
There's a little trick Tescos are using that very few people know about.
They will try and put an Express into a town and if it is refused they will go quiet for a while. Then an application will come along for a One Stop instead, which will usually get the green light as it's seen as a small player similar to local shops. Except that Tesco own the One Stop brand and run them exactly like a small Tesco's. They are very careful not to use own-brand products in them and use separate lorries for deliveries. This means they can muscle out any competition without being seen to flood an area with their little shops.
From that link it gave 500 jobs and trained 120 so sot a bad outcome eh?
You think? Taking jobs from companies its driven to the wall and of those '500' how many are a few hours here and there on zero hours contracts under the 10k tax threshold pulling in tax credits ontop thus massaging the governments jobless figures?
As I said ^ customer demand doesn't come out of thin air, there was shopper demand in the area before Tescos came along. Where/how it was serviced has changed. I wonder how many other retailers takings are now down/staff on shortened hours/left to go to Tescos?
Bollocks that works starts before planning is approved. Tescos Stockport had planning permission approved and approved to plans submitted within a certain footprint. (seen the site?)
milky1980 - yup, that's exactly what they've done in Hebden as they know there would be an outcry if a Tesco opened!
The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted. 🙂
I wouldn't worry about the little ones, our local experience is a new small Sainsburys was a boon to local traders as it massively increased footfall in one area (There was a huge campaign to stop them coming in). Likewise the loss of a one stop reduced footfall in another nearby shopping street causing local traders to suffer, but is now back up to previous levels due to another small Sainsburys coming in (there was no fight to stop them).
The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted.
My dog is the MD of Tesco, Lord Ruffington Woofwoof. He is also having a chuckle at the thread....
....it's much easier than countering any points made you believe to be false, or stating ones case.
Plus he's a dog, and struggles with the laptop.
He sticks his head out of the windows eh
....I mean, it's much easier than countering any points made, or stating ones case.
Too much BS on this thread Jamie to start countering to be honest, I'd be here all day. I will say that there are a lot of people who say they don't shop at Tesco because of their ethics, but I'd wager these people have no particular examples that they can back up with anything other than hearsay.
Good name for a dog BTW. 🙂
I'd wager these people have no particular examples that they can back up with anything other than hearsay
I hate to point it out, but this is exactly your position at this moment in time.
Sorry.
I hate to point it out, but this is exactly your position at this moment in time.
Not at all. 🙂 I've not given examples of anything to back up??! :-S
However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation...that would be a little more than hearsay old chap. 🙂
Cbmotorsport then she'll know how keenly suppliers are whipped.
hearsay
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unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge:
However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation
So not at all biased then.
You may have a point that other supermarket chains aren't much better, but that doesn't make Tesco ethical.
Boo........ Tescos.
However, I do at least live with someone who takes an active part in the management of the organisation...that would be a little more than hearsay old chap
But you are also emotionaly invested in the subject so not exactly an objective observer.
But whether what people think about tesco is true or not people still think it so its still their problem as they are projecting this image. They need to fix it.
They can learn from their competitors. A few years ago Sainsbury's had a reputation of always being out of stock and expensive. So the launched a huge public campaign to fix it, the replaced back office systems and invested in stock to fix the out of stock issues. They lowered some prices etc. They actually fixed the issues.
However the public perception of Tesco is that they are trying to con us into thinking they are cheap and in stock rather than actually changing anything. Crappy special offers and shelves full of things we don't want to buy don't help if I want 4 pints of semi skimmed and there isn't any.
This may not be true Tesco, may be brilliant at what they* do but public perception is king.
*[i]They aren't, whatever your wife says Tesco have some fairly fundamental issues to fix[/i]
Cbmotorsport then she'll know how keenly suppliers are whipped.
Yes, they are, but not unethically - and no more than many other supermarkets will.
The biggest reason for Tesco's drop in profit is the rise of the discount stores, Aldi, Lidl etc. In some key categories Tesco genuinely struggle to compete. The recent figures are also slightly skewed by their failure to break into the American market, and the losses that the considerable investment required have caused.
This may not be true Tesco, may be brilliant at what they* do but public perception is king.
Very true, every time you visit a Tescos a little bit of the staff despair rubs off on you.
I need to do my shop.
I don't have much time as I'm busy busy.
I have a list.
I need veg,fruit, undies, USB stick, new TV for the toilet, rug for the kitchen, cat food, frozen food and a whole lot more. I'm not rich so don't want to spend much money.
I drive by Tesco (or whichever other, could even be of German origin).
I go in.
25 minutes later I'm out with all items.
I paid less than elsewhere, had parking and could even carry my stuff in a silver chariot to the car.
I'm biased about my time and money.
I'm sure 99.9 percent of others here are the same.
Yes, they are, but not unethically
I really have no idea how you reckon you are in a position to know that, based on your wife having a job there.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tesco+unethical+practice+suppliers
But you are also emotionaly invested in the subject so not exactly an objective observer.
I'd argue that one, I do not give a monkeys about Tesco's success or otherwise. But I understand why you may think that.
But whether what people think about tesco is true or not people still think it so its still their problem as they are projecting this image. They need to fix it.
Completely agree. They are pretty awful at blowing their own trumpet about the good things that they do and their considerable efforts to ensure fairness. Up until now, they haven't had to maybe?
However the public perception of Tesco is that they are trying to con us into thinking they are cheap and in stock rather than actually changing anything.
They price promise, so there's no conning going on, if they are more expensive they give it back off your next shop. No good if you don't shop at Tesco regularly, but if you do you know you are paying the same as you would elsewhere.
I'm surprised at you questioning stock, I've never had a problem. I may be lucky though.
The biggest reason for Tesco's drop in profit is the rise of the discount stores, Aldi, Lidl etc.
That's because of all of the big supermarkets, they are the most comparable. Saying that, I like Aldi and will shop there unlike Tesco which I avoid. I hate the Metros, the superdoopermarkets and the bloody mobile phone emails I keep getting.
But this does seem to be the common attitude of large company head offices, not just Tesco.
My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted.
People and customers complain, company staff find it amusing.
I really like Tesco, they are a great company, I have done business with them at a corporate level and it was an absolute pleasure - found them much better to do business with than Sainsbury, who I found more bureaucratic.
However, as a customer I think what they are offering is too complicated, there are too many different offers. There are the 2 for 3 etc, the price promise, vouchers for clubcard holders, petrol savings, plus others that come through the online side. They need to streamline these in one or two so their "Value Proposition" is clearer to their occasional customers and their clubcard holders.
They need to stop being cute and focus on making their stores as convenient for customers as possible - stop moving everything around, it just pushed me to Clic and Collect which must cost them more - make sure there is stock etc etc. They are stuck with the property so they have to make it work for their customers.
LMT
the problem is if Tesco went belly up the one thing we all forget it's the second biggest employer in the uk after the nhs. If/when things go south it pretty much effects everyone in the country.
However, it's also publicly funded. So many staff in receipt of "tax credits" (state subsidy) to a business that either can't or won't pay it's staff enough to live on, because of low contracted hours and low pay. Maybe it should be nationalised??
grum - Member500 local jobs in one area?
That can only be a good thing.Not really if it takes jobs away from independents who employ more people to do the same work (oh noes they aren't as efficient) and put much more of their money/profits back into the local economy.
And often pay them better
Well done on your whataboutery iolo, however as I already said 'You may have a point that other supermarket chains aren't much better, but that doesn't make Tesco ethical.' Two or more wrongs don't make a right, last time I checked.
Tesco are the market leader so have the most power to bully, hence why they have the worst reputation.
Shall I go on?
Well you could but since your first link includes such bastions of newsworthy-ness as David Icke's forums I think your probably not making the point that you think you are.
Ok, ignore his almighty lizardness but the truth of the matter ia supermarkets are here, they bully suppliers and supply joe pulic.
Without demand there is no supply. A uk boycott of all should work.
People and customers complain, company staff find it amusing.
That's out of context and unfair. If the 'complaints' were about genuine issues, they'd be no laughing. Stop being provocative for the sake of it.
You are being provocative. How about cancelling suppliers orders. Thats one tactic.
My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know
Well if she is in the know as you state, then she will no doubt be working on the solution to get it back on track, my local Tesco extra was virtually desolate at 6pm last Friday.
Lord Ruffington Woofwoof, appears to have made a mess on the carpet.
It was crazy busy in Sopron, Hungary last night. 20 minutes queue at the tills.
cbmotorsport does your other half select the horses for their prime cuts?
That's out of context and unfair. If the 'complaints' were about genuine issues, they'd be no laughing. Stop being provocative for the sake of it.
I have just gone back to read the whole thread as I thought I must have missed some funny posts.
Turns out, no, all seem like valid complaints to me, apart from the obvious jokes.
The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant.
I'm not sure how someone could laugh this off..............
For what it's worth, three out of five nearest supermarkets to me are Tesco. The local bakery survives but most other independent food shops are gone.
The worst Tesco is especially bad, often smelling of off dairy products and 'grey' meat products in the fridges. Stock is often poor, or the aisles filled with trolleys straight of the lorry. Staff are generally obviously unhappy, often look absolutely knackered and in the "bad one" will push past you and some of them are very smelly too.
No, I don't go to Tesco very often.
The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle[u] at some of the crap being posted[/u]
You're selective about what you quote Neil.
Some means not all.
cbmotorsport does your other half select the horses for their prime cuts?
That's a bit cruel !
[b]cbmotorsport[/b]
You're selective about what you quote Neil.
[b]neilwheel[/b]
But this does seem to be the common attitude of large company head offices, not just Tesco.[b][i][u]My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at some of the crap being posted[/u][/i][/b].People and customers complain, company staff find it amusing.
I had already covered that [b][i][u]part[/u][/i][/b], sorry, didn't realise I had to include it again.
[b]cbmotorsport[/b]
The amount of utter rubbish being quoted on this thread is brilliant. My Mrs works for Tesco head office so is certainly in the know, and has had a good chuckle at [u]some of the crap being posted[/u]
[b]neilwheel[/b]
[u]I have just gone back to read the whole thread as I thought I must have missed some funny posts.Turns out, no, all seem like valid complaints to me, apart from the obvious jokes.[/u]
