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Before I start, I apologise for this post not being anything to do with the World Cup, but here goes....

Our girls are 1 yr old now and onto a combination of cow's milk and +1 formula.

We have always had problems with one girl waking for a feed in the night but last week she had three nights of pre-mixed cartons of No. 1 milk for her bedtime feed and slept through. Last night she had +1yr powder mix and woke for a feed (took a whole bottle very quickly).

So - my question is - what is the most filling? No1 milk, +1 milk or cow's milk?

We have never tried the night-time formula either - is that any good?

Tired from Harrogate.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 11:47 am
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Baby rice? Just to fill the little tummies with a bit more than liquid.
It is 14 years since I had this problem and time and the sleep deprivation has clouded the memory, so it may be useless or outdated.
Hope the tag team settle down. One is bad enough.
BTW: Twins are good for the advertising industry, get them an agent.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 11:55 am
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My parents used a darning needle to widen the hole in the teat, so that the half a rusk they dissolved in the bottle would get through. I slept through from seven weeks.

This probably isn't good advice.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 11:55 am
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Hope the tag team settle down. One is bad enough.
BTW: Twins are good for the advertising industry, get them an agent.

They are non-identical so I doubt they are the same draw - but a good suggestion ๐Ÿ™‚ TBF they aren't that hard work overall - I have seen friends with single babies struggle much more and when she does wake in the night she will drop straight back off after a feed without issue.

I have wondered about the whole baby rice/rusk idea - I think it is quite acceptable so perhaps that is what we need to try.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:06 pm
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TBF they aren't that hard work overall - I have seen friends with single babies struggle much more and when she does wake in the night she will drop straight back off after a feed without issue.

In that case, MTFU ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:11 pm
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Certainly sounds like one of them might be ready for a bit of solids, second the baby rice suggestion.

Prepare yourself for some truly incredible nappies after first solids though. Oof! ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

Also, prepare yourself that one of your children may just be a 'bit of a mare'. ๐Ÿ™‚ At least with twins you get it over with relatively quickly, unlike our protracted release of children over many years.

Kev


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:15 pm
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At a year I'd say they are 6 months ready for solids - are they not on them at all, even during the day?

Our boys, one is confirmed on cows milk (4 though so a fair bit older) one is confirmed on SMA toddler (green tins, he's 20 months) and the other ones a bit tiny so only has 1 formulae in the evening to give mum a break. Can't say I've seen anything make any difference other than time.

Strangely though the ready made and powdered feeds are different formulations even from the same brand - we found this out as both the wife and I are veggie, but some of the ready made feeds contain fish oil - and they had a very disruptive effect on the boys digestion. This was repeated a few times to be sure (not sure if this counts as good parenting ;-)) though it might be something else in the formulation. Suffice to say there is a difference so it's probably worth experimenting.

If she'll take it, I'd persevere with full fat cow's milk, just from a cost perspective!


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:25 pm
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They are both on solids (three meals a day + snacks mid-morning and mid-afternoon) and eat huge amounts. Last night (at 5pm) she had a big bowl of homemade beef casserole with extra potatoes and carrots as finger food, a full fruit pot and extra bits of fruit as finger food and two fromage frais! She then had her bedtime milk at 7.15pm. She is only 16 lbs but she is so active she burns it all off.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:32 pm
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I tried giving mine cereal (ready brek) just before bed to fill him up as well as milk at that age - it did work. But he was (well read is) a fussy bugger with solids so was not eating much tea.

Oh and I heard that full fat cows milk is more filling. But I can't remember where from now, could have just been one person's experience.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:47 pm
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Do they do a +1 hungry formula? We've got ours on 1st formula hungry baby stuff to keep weaning at bay for now and that (seems to) help her sleep through.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:47 pm
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They do a night-time specific one - I guess that must be similar.

A health visitor had suggested giving a snack at bedtime too so perhaps we try that (a biscuit followed by the milk).

I would just like to get this cracked because once we do, we should be able to have a full 12 hours rest as they always go down well and, at weekends when we don't have to be up, they can sleep till 8am - but being woken every night is taking its toll a bit.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:50 pm
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we should be able to have a full 12 hours rest

You have much to learn about parenthood and plans
Try a night time one and snacks but dont expect to never be woken up ever again


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 12:56 pm
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Try a night time one and snacks but dont expect to never be woken up ever again

I certainly don't expect to never be woken, but 6 months of it every single night is taking its toll - we just want to establish a routine where waking is the exception, not the norm. ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:00 pm
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I wouldn't (and don't) consider milk as anything other than a drink at that age. If they are hungry then it's clearly not enough. Instead of a milk drink try a fruity pouch (maybe the ones with yoghurt) or fruit smoothie (Innocent, not the sugary junk kind). I don't think you need any of that expensive baby-specific stuff any more really.

I think many babies just wake up because they are hungry (as I am sure you realise), so just get as much food down her as you can ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:21 pm
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Could it just be habitual behaviour rather than actually really needing the food?


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:23 pm
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Well we do try and she does generally eat very well (just last night our sister-in-law commented on how much they eat and she is a mum to three so has a direct comparison). I think a bedtime snack might be the next thing to try.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:24 pm
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Could it just be habitual behaviour rather than actually really needing the food?

Possibly, but in my OP I demonstrated how a different milk last week had her sleep through so I was wondering whether that may be the key.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:26 pm
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think sometimes we over analyse re milk they slept must be that when in reality the sleeping pattern is quite random. Once they walk you can tire them out and that helps. Possibly they are just used to eating at night when they cry. Mine ask for medicine as they wake up only when ill now and say this even when they are well.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:30 pm
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Tell me about baby milk

it tastes nasty!


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:32 pm
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it tastes nasty!

Anyone ever see that bloke from Blur making breast milk cappuccinos on the Gordon Ramsey programme? YACK!


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:33 pm
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I would agree that it might be habit but if you can stuff them full so they have a really full tummy and thus sleep more deeply then you won't need to faff around with sleep training, etc, i.e. trying to persuade them once they are awake that they actually don't need any milk/food etc.

So I would go with the snack at bedtime to see if that works. I also wonder if the different milk thing making her sleep better might be a red herring, could just be chance? But why not keep trying the milk that made her sleep and see?


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:37 pm
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It smells nasty too!


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:38 pm
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But why not keep trying the milk that made her sleep and see?

Cos it was the cartons and they cost a fortune! But if that is what it takes then it will be worth it. I was really just trying to find out what type of milk *should* be the most filling.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:41 pm
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Possibly, but in my OP I demonstrated how a different milk last week had her sleep through so I was wondering whether that may be the key.

Unless you can repeat that for a month, I'd just take it as a lucky night to be honest. I don't know how many 'keys' I've found and subsequently lost over the last 4 years ๐Ÿ™‚

Still, only another 18 or so years to go eh? A chap at work pointed out that no sooner have you got them sleeping though the night than you're lying awake worrying abou them one way or another!


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:44 pm
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BTW, have you checked the realtive calorific content? Should be on the packs, and cows milk can't be hard to find?


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 1:45 pm
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BITTY
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Posted : 14/06/2010 1:46 pm
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I was really just trying to find out what type of milk *should* be the most filling

The kind that comes with a piece of toast, rusk, banana or similar.


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 2:04 pm
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try baby milk with the addition of baby rice now that is the extreme of nastyness


 
Posted : 14/06/2010 2:51 pm
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Well mr fanylion, any updates?


 
Posted : 16/06/2010 6:40 pm
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just seen this, but...

widen the hole in the teat, so that the half a rusk they dissolved in the bottle
+1


 
Posted : 16/06/2010 6:46 pm