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If there is a strike on 30June I will take my kids to school regardless and sue the school for breach of the contact that we (parents; teachers; & children) signed at the beginning of the school year.
Not convinced you'll get a whole lot of sympathy here 😉
See thread "look after your own kids..."
Don't they get enough time off as it is.
[gets the grenade in early]
Why dont they go on strike on one of their days theyre not at school, but that would be so easy.
what contract?
If there is a strike on 30June I will take my kids to school regardless and sue the school for breach of the contact that we (parents; teachers; & children) signed at the beginning of the school year.
Promise?
You have a contract with your school?
What forms the consideration in this contract?
Told you!!!
Here they come....
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My father and mother were both teacher, both had long holidays, both retired early, both did prep and marking but not beyond what was considered to be within their professional obligations - from their own admission.
If there is a strike on 30June I will take my kids to school regardless and sue the school for breach of the contact that we (parents; teachers; & children) signed at the beginning of the school year.
What, your kids that much hassle?
Good luck can we have an update sounds exciting.
My father and mother were both teacher, both had long holidays, both retired early, both did prep and marking but not beyond what was considered to be within their professional obligations - from their own admission.
When did they retire?
I have the contract somewhere. I could dig iy out if I could be bothered. The initiative was the schools, I assume the ratiaonale was to demonstrate to the kiddies the teachers' commitment to teach, supported by the parents, with a promise from the pupils....
Dad was 50ish, 15ish years ago; mum was 60ish, 5ish years ago
What, your kids that much hassle?
Yep, when you are booked on a £500 / day course as a work objective - hit directly in the pocket if I fail to attend.
Still time to get them adopted if you want to save that money.
How ironic OP that you talk of contracts...oh I can't be bothered... 'night all
I have the contract somewhere. I could dig iy out if I could be bothered. The initiative was the schools, I assume the ratiaonale was to demonstrate to the kiddies the teachers' commitment to teach, supported by the parents, with a promise from the pupils....
i very much doubt it is an actual legal contract.
Teaching is very different now from what it was 15 years ago, 5 years ago, not such a big difference. But the pressures on teachers have been increasing over the years. I'm sure your mother will attest to that.
[color=blue](Full disclosure - I'm a teacher).
Home/school contracts are a good idea on the surface (we have one), but actually have very little substance. Much better to actually try and build a positive relationship between school and parents by other means (community projects, good quality communications, getting parents involved in school in practical ways, etc.).
Of course, there is no 'right to strike' in UK law (although IIRC EU legislation and High Court rulings earlier this year run strongly contrary to that), so you could always try a legal challenge against your children's teachers.
My own union has not yet made a decision on strike action. If I'm honest I would be torn - I understand the union/profession's stance, but striking as a teacher doesn't personally feel right to me.
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Did you sue the school on the royal wedding day?
What we need is more acadamies where the managers set and enforce the curiculum, and also set the pay.
You mean where academies where the education costs more for worse results?
ours has huge signs outside saying how well it does.
Teachers striking again!!!!!
One of the two unions involved has never had a national strike in its entire history.
yes - but the actual experience is that they are very costly and do not improve results .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/jun/04/academy-comprehensive-results-indistinguishable
project - MemberWhat we need is more acadamies where the [b]managers set and enforce the curiculum,[/b] and also set the pay.
That gave me a chuckle haha. Too many managers in education that are not fit for purpose.
ours has huge signs outside saying how well it does.
could have bought some books instead
My father and mother were both teacher(sic), both had long holidays, both retired early, both did prep and marking but not beyond what was considered to be within their professional obligations - from their own admission.
This will have been in the days of chalk boards, corporal punishment and teachers wearing long black gowns?
My wife is a teacher and your words do not reflect the status quo for teachers today. It is a hard job, made harder by ****wits in government (both national and local) who could not find their collective arses with sat-nav assisted hands. It is not the life I would choose for myself or my children. You are talking shite my friend.
i dont care i hate sending my kids to school every day poor fekkers. 😕
Dad was 50ish, 15ish years ago; mum was 60ish, 5ish years ago
So old enough to be involved in the last big Teacher strike in the 80s then.
This will have been in the days of chalk boards.....
I suspect it was before then........in the days of blackboards.
Are these the same teachers that were wringing their hands about people taking their kids on holidays in term time?
Are these the same teachers that were wringing their hands about people taking their kids on holidays in term time?
Perhaps, but that is entirely consistent. They recognise that every day of education is important and that is why their greatest threat is to withhold that day.
project - MemberWhat we need is more acadamies where the managers set and enforce the curiculum, and also set the pay.
Without extensive tests, it's impossible to tell if this comment was intentionally or unintentionally funny. I'll let you know when we hear more from the lab.
What we need is more acadamies where the managers set and enforce the curiculum
Quite right, what this country needs is more meaningless management ****speak and less actual education.
A. Dailymail-Reader
Well said that Daily Mail reader! And with Michael (who knicked my chin?) Gove in charge, you can be sure of ****speak flowing like water.
I suspect that they're striking over the proposed changes to pension arrangements (thats not been communicated in this bun fight). Should this be the case then I expect that the teachers (or at least unions) are taking the view that they shouldn't have their pensions raided so the government can balance it's books after a recession that they didn't cause, and that they had an expectation of certain pension arrangements when joining the profession. Agree or not I can understand why they might feel the need to take a stand.
Happy to have my suppositions challenged
Buns... Where? Are they allowed on the iDave diet?
Speaking of academies, i was told schools get almost £30k for the conversion process and they are encouraged to use it on lawyers and accountants to get things straight. I guess that is one way to help the economy grow: use public money to subsidise the private sector.
I guess that is one way to help the economy grow: use public money to subsidise the private sector.
Unintentionally ? funny.
On Radio 4 last night they had a teacher explaining the main reasons why they are going on strike.
1. Their pay has been frozen for 2 years.
2. They have been asked to up their pension contributions (not their fault but the bankers, so why should they pay for it) her words...
She did sprout another reason, but by that stage I was already in disbeleif.
However I do like a good strike though, not enough in the UK these days.
Dad was 50ish, 15ish years ago; mum was 60ish, 5ish years ago
Under the proposed changes, your mam and dad would have another three years of work ahead of them.
Most employers pay 3-10% of salary as a pension contribution.
The teachers already get an effective 20% employer contribution (based on the delta between pension benefit entitlement and their personal contributions) but are moaning because they are being asked to make a larger personal contribution at a time when many people outside of the profession have no pension at all, and no spare cash to start one.
No fasrmer john - they agreed in 2007 to make a larger contribution and to have the state contribution capped. However having agreed significant changes to make the scheme sustainable and affordable the government now wont to reduce the benefits greatly to reduce the state contribution greatly