[Closed] Teachers not allowed to have political views

That's all a bit

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isn't it?

Or Mao, Lenin, etc.

Either way, that's not right. Education should be apolitical, but that should not extend as far as this. Keep political views out of the classroom by all means, but not this.

paulwf - Member

She is going to phone the Union tomorrow

Sounds like she might be about to express a political view, prepare the waterboard!

I have no idea of the legality, I'm just going to assume it's a load of shit, caused by incompetence rather than an evil conspiracy.

I believe in terms of professionalism (I'm also a teacher) that my political views are irrelevant to the kids I'm teaching.

However, by being in a position of power, I need to ensure that I don't sway the kids to one or another political view. I feel its my duty to ensure they make informed, educated and unbiased opinions.

Somebody has objected to someone stating support of UKIP

Seems quite draconian IMO.

Whilst I agree Personal Political Views should be allowed, they should be backed up by Other Politlical Viewponts too.

It's about teaching balance, let the kids decide thier own Political View based on evidence presented, not by coercion.

I can understand keeping it out of the classroom but she runs the risk of falling foul to this if she complains on social media about Academies, Brexit.

Jesus Christ - everyday is getting more like the 1930's - even if the original complaint was about UKIP this is still ridiculous.

Besides, the most entertaining teachers were always opinionated and would goad us into arguing with them.

1. Seems common sense
2. Doesn't

She didn't see the text herself so I suspect someone has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere. My teacher friends post political stuff on FB all the time. There are countless teachers actually involved in local govt.

Very disturbing.

1)The announcement
2)The fact they felt the necessity to make it.

All Teachers are lefties, always have been always will be, it's the very reason there are so many righties.

And your concerns are?

I have the same professional responsibility it comes with being in such a position.

I can post political views on social media but has to be that is such a way to represent my employer or insight such things as racial hatred.

Up to "site," I don't think that any person reasonable person could complain.

Social media and in public - Hmmmm

Part 2 has been written by someone with not enough common sense to see that it is a) wrong b) utterly unenforceable.

Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

[url= http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html ]http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html[/url]

I agree she didn't see the message in writing.
She is going to request a copy, as it wouldn't be the first time the headteachers has misinterpreted a statement.

Either way, that's not right. Education should be apolitical, but that should not extend as far as this. Keep political views out of the classroom by all means, but not this.

THIS

I am fairly sure teachers [ true for police and prisons] that they cannot be a member of an "extremist" party

Judging by teachers on here its far from the case in fact they are some of the most out spoken.

Is this a general ongoing ruling or is there an upcoming local / by election and their including employees us of social media as part of the restrictions councils face during periods of Purdah?

express political views on site, social media or in public

What social media exactly? The school's website / social media or a teacher's own personal social media account?

And if theirs a restriction on protests does this mean as an individual expressing their own concerns or as a teacher representing their school or profession?

Outside of the school, whilst not representing the school I don't see an issue but not in the classroom.

Breach of human rights surely? Oh wait, that's an EU thing, never mind.

Judging by teachers on here its far from the case in fact they are some of the most out spoken.

Extremisists mean the BNP or the SWP - I'm not sure there are any teachers on here that fit that mold.

Certainly shouldn't be allowed to in school time. But in your own time? That's taking the piss.

Time to find another job.

Edit: assuming you have political views. Normal, people don't, so I guess it's largely irrelevant.

I'm not a teacher but every employment contract I've had has a clause about no political canvassing but it's bonkers to stop people having a view on it.

Teachers [u]not allowed to have[/u] political views

Staff are [u]not allowed to express[/u] political views on site, social media or in public

Can you spot the difference?

I would hope schmiken's stance in the norm. I also think that northwind is on the right lines, some heads and dep heads can be so risk averse that stated policies like this are overboard, partly arse-covering as well. Asking for the written copy is sensible.

Teachers expressing political views on social media should only be an issue if they are friends with students, which would already be an issue Ninfan.

Teachers expressing political views on social media should only be an issue if they are friends with students, which would already be an issue.

Some forms of social media are more visible than others. Facebook has configurable privacy settings but Twitter posts are findable regardless of whether you are friends with / connect to someone.

This is a social media issue as much as anything else.

Teachers are people too of course and there might be overlap between social circles of parents and the teachers. A friend of my wife's who is a teacher has two profiles, as celebrities and one-person businesses do. Overkill? Dunno.

Some forms of social media are more visible than others. Facebook has configurable privacy settings but Twitter posts are findable regardless of whether you are friends with / connect to someone.

Then issue a ban on twitter - not hard is it?

It's ****ing ridiculous anyway, not allowed to express political opinions - but totally fine to have religious schools.

I'm not sure that teachers should not express any political views in school. I think one of the most worrying aspects of our society is lack of engagement in politics amongst the yoofs. When kids asked me my opinions on Brexit I told them. I try to be balanced and avoid talk about this party or that but I dont think I should shy away from showing that I think politics is important.

+1 anagallis

I reckon your wife should organise a rally for teacher's rights.

I'm not sure that teachers should not express any political views in school. I think one of the most worrying aspects of our society is lack of engagement in politics amongst the yoofs. When kids asked me my opinions on Brexit I told them. I try to be balanced and avoid talk about this party or that but I dont think I should shy away from showing that I think politics is important.

Have never seen anything like this in 20 years of teaching. It worries me on a number of levels if true and a genuine blanket ban.

Extremisists mean the BNP or the SWP - I'm not sure there are any teachers on here that fit that mold.

I'm sorry where did I say they were extremists?

Get the kids to go on strike in support?

What sanction could the school or council apply?

Thread title.

Teachers not allowed to have political views

-Staff are not allowed to express political views on site, social media or in public
-Staff are not allowed to attend rallies or protests before first seeking permission

I doubt very much whether such rules are legally enforcable. We still live in a free country (as of yesterday, at least) where citizens are allowed to express their political views freely.

You should. I wouldn't ever express political views at work, or tolerate anyone doing so. It's unprofessional

No it's not , it's honest. As long as you're not trying to browbeat of protelyse with your views.
If a pupil asks me what my opinion is on a political matter I'll tell them, but in a reasoned manner, being willing to hear their views if they differ from mine. We want to engage kids with politics, not pretend it doesn't exist!

You should. I wouldn't ever express political views at work, or tolerate anyone doing so. It's unprofessional.

No idea what your job is but mine is to educate kids and help them become well rounded individuals and to me that includes promoting engagement with politics showing that I care about it and helping them think about it and debate it amongst their peers and if that needs me to put an opinion out there then so be it.

Sounds nonsensical and not really worth wasting mental energy on - Just some local council bolloxology that one can safely ignore. Seek permission to participate in a protest? Aye, right.

If council means the governing body of the school or something like that then it's more concerning - trouble at mill with the management if this sort of thing is indicative of policy.

No idea what your job is but mine is to educate kids and help them become well rounded individuals and to me that includes promoting engagement with politics showing that I care about it and helping them think about it and debate it amongst their peers and if that needs me to put an opinion out there then so be it.

Is it possible that this has come about due to a confrontation at a school? Then the council have gone a bit overkill? People on social media in particular can completely loose the plot at times, especially post Brexit.

Useless council bastards, could've banned em from talking shop in the pub while they were at it.