[Closed] Talk me out of buying a Pavoni Europiccola (Espresso content!)

If you know what you're doing I believe they make great coffee. But as there are more variables it easier to make horrible coffee too.

Work of art. Just get one 😀

Anyone like to offer an opinion?

Yes I would 8) I like drinking coffee & own a Rancilio Silvia. A friend owns the Pavoni & although I've not tasted the results we've discussed this topic at (yawn) length.

As you would expect the coffee from a semi automatic machine like mine can vary considerably. I ditch approx 25 % of the shots I pull from my machine as being substandard. The Pavoini takes variability to the next level. I would say that if you're entirely happy experimenting & getting mixed results then you could live with the Pav. Getting consistency is difficult & takes practice.

If you can unicycle backwards on a tightrope whilst wearing a blindfold then a Pavoini might be the next challenge for you 8)

You know it makes sense !

D.

Or you could buy my Gaggia Baby D 😀

I've got one and it's currently a rather dusty paperweight...
They do look lovely, but as Davesport says, they can be a pain to pull a decent shot from. I found it all got rather too hot after two shots too. And then waiting for steam for milk takes a while - and I could never get a decent foam out of it - but then perhaps that's asking too much of it. I think if you like espresso and Italy and want to work at it, then it might be OK. If you like any milky drinks or consistency, then something like a Silvia is far, far better.

you have budgeted for a decent grinder too?

We *had* one - bought it off the classifieds here.

As above - looks great. Pain in the arse to get good coffee out of. We chopped ours in for a second hand Gaggia Classic (making money on the deal!) and the quality and consistency of the coffee went up instantly.

As per Smiffy though - you need a good grinder to go with it too.