[Closed] "Tactical" torches...

Has Maglite gone out of business then?

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

Like a normal torch but with the word "tactical" written on the box. Costs a bit more too.

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

An essential part of your EDC, next to your Bowie knife and your Colt .45

BUT you need to buy one, before it's BANNED BY THE GOVERNMENT!!!

In the case of torches, if the bouncers I used to work with are correct, the word 'tactical' means 'can also double up as an instrument that can used be used to beat someone to death with'

Which is handy, because you can then use it for its 'proper' purpose as you dispose of the body in a shallow grave on the moors later that evening

why do you want one?

My stepdad used to be so proud of his Maglite. Said that he didn't really need that and his truncheon. 🙂

It's been recommended by police forces world wide since the invention of the Maglite D cell.......

Tactical - adj: Having a large number of pockets.

Tictacal -adj

Popping in a mint in readiness for a quick sexual assault.

I've got a Maglite PRO LED takes two AA cells, It's got a CREE LED and cost about £20 (TK MAXX, they had loads) it's very good. I only use it for walking the dogs though, not sure if that's considered "tactical". I will say anything brighter would be a bit pointless, it's nearly as powerful as my dodgy Chinese Magicshine knock-offs.

EDC.. ?
Electric Daisy Carnival ?

Me and several of my friends have LED Lensers which has been excellent in all sorts of rubbish conditions. Make sure you go for something that runs on standard batteries so you can replace them no matter where in the world you may find yourself.

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

It's an enduro torch.. 😉

With the advances in battery technology, you now do not need a massive long tube to contain the batteries, you can get a small torch that will fit in the palm of your hand.

You then have more space to carry a knife/machete if you need to kill folk.

somouk - Member

Me and several of my friends have LED Lensers which has been excellent in all sorts of rubbish conditions. Make sure you go for something that runs on standard batteries so you can replace them no matter where in the world you may find yourself.

Dam straight, last time I was air droped into sub saharan africa to do some 'work' I was disapointed to find the local tribesmen were unable to sell me the 'Gucci' batteries for my Technical Torch.

No wait, no actually none of those things actually happened. I had an outside light fitted for when I have to put the bins out and a mini maglite if I need to see things as night away from my house.

I only use it for walking the dogs though, not sure if that's considered "tactical"

You're a real man of action

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"undressed action man with gripping hands"
it was alright in the 70s I guess

Funnily enough in my years of doing various 'tactical' stuff with the military I have never heard of 'right lads, we are going tactical, break out your torches'

Mystery!

Is it as opposed to 'strategic' torches - presumably the former allows you to illuminate things at close range, whilst the latter casts a broader light over the whole area?

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

An essential part of your EDC, next to your Bowie knife and your Colt .45

OK, WTF is an EDC?

Funnily enough in my years of doing various 'tactical' stuff with the military I have never heard of 'right lads, we are going tactical, break out your torches'

You weren't in the STW Special Forces then 😉

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

A way of adding £15 to the price.

presumably the former allows you to illuminate things at close range, whilst the latter casts a broader light over the whole area?

WTF is a 'Tactical Torch'?

It's a torch made to appeal to the masses of apparently grown men that have some kind of military/survivalist fetish. It's just the tip of the iceberg though, If you really want to explore the world of emotionally juvenile weirdness that this sort of stuff leads into have a quick search for "everyday carry"

See also 'technical fabrics'

If you really want to explore the world of emotionally juvenile weirdness that this sort of stuff leads into have a quick search for "everyday carry"

well I always make sure I have a clean tissue before I leave the house in the morning, does that count as 'tactical'?

tactical torch= cheap Chinese led value £6 + photos stolen from a hobbyists web page (think Trout) plus gullibility .

Google the claimed lumen value the words led torch and you come up with exactly the same item for £6 sometimes in a truly tactical camo finish.

There's an ad at the top of this page, as I type, for one which says....

"Forget buying a gun... This could blind a bear."

Maybe it's just me, but if I were faced with an enraged, recently blinded bear, i'd be wishing i'd remembered to buy a gun.

[img] https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/17059538289795177297 [/img]

well I always make sure I have a clean tissue before I leave the house in the morning, does that count as 'tactical'?

Only if it's one of these.

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It's a torch made to appeal to the masses of apparently grown men that have some kind of military/survivalist fetish. It's just the tip of the iceberg though, If you really want to explore the world of emotionally juvenile weirdness that this sort of stuff leads into have a quick search for "everyday carry"

Precisely. Eg, https://everydaycarry.com/

A random example from that site:

[list][*]Zero Tolerance 0450CF Sinkevich Carbon Fiber KVT Knife, Black[/*]
[*]Victorinox Cadet Alox Olive[/*]
[*]Griffin Titanium Pocket Tool[/*]
[*]Recycled Firefighter Nomex Handkerchief[/*]
[*]Maratac AAA Brass Rev 3[/*]
[*]Recycled Firefighter The Sergeant Slim Wallet[/*]
[*]Glock 43[/*]
[*]Rick Hinderer Knives Investigator Pen Brass[/*]
[*]Field Notes Pitch Black Edition[/*][/list]

Only if it's one of these

I now feel so inadequate, been carrying the wrong tissues for 40+ years....

"[i]have a quick search for "everyday carry"[/i]"

I just did. Wow.

(As a nice example of how the US and UK subtly differ, searching for "EDC UK" gives us the Electric Daisy Carnival...)

In all fairness, I can see the tissues would have a use when hunting ducks or something that can see in colour - a bright flash of white as you blow your nose wouldn't help your camouflage would it?

There's a thread on Reddit also. The Question posed is, "what are your essentials that you must carry on a daily basis?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/

Check out how many students' "essential" items that they "must carry on a daily basis" includes a handgun (including the one currently second from top, "female grad student").

Loving the technical spec on those Pitch Black Field Notes Cougar - makes stationery seems positively manly.

makes stationery seems positively manly.

The names Bond... Basildon Bond.

Looking at that site Cougar posted, one of the contributors had a lot of ti "lanyard beads". 'What are they?', I wondered to myself.

I clicked on the link, and it took me to this site:

http://cogentindustries.com/products/tibeads/

Are they massively overpriced woggles?

A quote from that page: "If you know your lanyard beads (and I’m sure you do since you’ve read this far) – then we both know I don’t really have to “convince” you"

'What are they?', I wondered to myself.

I assume you give them to the blinded bear, so he chokes on them?

Jakester - Member

Looking at that site Cougar posted, one of the contributors had a lot of ti "lanyard beads". 'What are they?', I wondered to myself.

I clicked on the link, and it took me to this site:

http://cogentindustries.com/products/tibeads/ /p>

Are they massively overpriced woggles?

I don't think you're allowed to use the term woggle anymore. It's not pc.
Anyway....I clicked that link and instantly found myself in a titanium rabbit hole of shit I didn't know existed, but now need.

"If you know your lanyard beads (and I’m sure you do since you’ve read this far) – then we both know I don’t really have to “convince” you"

*weaves tactical friendship bracelet*

God, I just spent more time looking at some of those 'EDC' sites.

WTF? Listing the crap you have in your pockets on the internet? What next? "Collections of belly button lint 2014 - 2015"?

Good job no-one asked my wife to list her 'EDC' - you'd be there for weeks sorting through the crap in her handbag...

"Hello"......."Yes, I'd like to order a tactical torch please.........."Smith"........."Jellystone"

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I clicked on the link, and it took me to this site:

http://cogentindustries.com/products/tibeads/

Until I got to the Order button I wasn't sure whether I was seeing a beautiful example of Poe's Law.

WTF? Listing the crap you have in your pockets on the internet? What next?

Are you new here? (-:

"Tactical pen"

aka a biro. 🙄

Cougar - Moderator

WTF? Listing the crap you have in your pockets on the internet? What next?

Are you new here? (-:

😀

Recycled Firefighter Nomex Handkerchief

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I bought some of these tissues. I can never find one when I need one though.

My old DX torch has what's known as an "Assault Crown". I often wonder what would happen if I tactically jabbed someone in the eye with it.

Looking at that site Cougar posted, one of the contributors had a lot of ti "lanyard beads". 'What are they?', I wondered to myself.

If they are what I think they are then they are used for pacing when navigating.

Some will be 10's of paces and then others which are normally separated by a knot in the lanyard will be 100s of paces.

[quote="FunkyDunc"]With the advances in battery technology, you now do not need a massive long tube to contain the batteries, you can get a small torch that will fit in the palm of your hand.

You then have more space to carry a knife/machete if you need to kill folk.Remind me again what the difference is in penalties between getting caught with a bloody great machete and a torch.

My old DX torch has what's known as an "Assault Crown"

I wondered what this was too, I was eventually told that the crown is machined away a bit so that it can be used to dig into the flesh of any would be attacker, rather than just used as a kosh like a normal torch would.

Not sure on the veracity of this so if anyone has heard different?

If they are what I think they are then they are used for pacing when navigating.

Some will be 10's of paces and then others which are normally separated by a knot in the lanyard will be 100s of paces.

So, basically Bear Grylls worry beads?

Remind me again what the difference is in penalties between getting caught with a bloody great machete and a torch

Good point, however I prefer the quickness of it when using a knife as opposed to it taking a good few solid blows with a torch.

That's irrespective of whether I'm owning a grizzly bear or in the urban jungle.

It's not just about the Daisy Carnival in the UK. Every day carry double-sided axe (large) anyone:

http://edcgear.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SCHAXE8

So, basically Bear Grylls worry beads?

Worrying about being blinded by a torch perhaps?

Not sure on the veracity of this so if anyone has heard different?

I've heard of those before, the crown is normally ridged or has a shape that will help it dig in and cause more injury.

So, basically Bear Grylls worry beads?

Anal beads for explorers.

Maybe it's just me, but if I were faced with an enraged, recently blinded bear, i'd be wishing i'd remembered to buy a gun.

Given bears' sense of smell I'm not sure blinding your attacker is going to help you avoid a Leonardo di Caprio type situation.

I really like the tactical pen thing, it's literally just a pen that's better at stabbing people, in case someone challenges you to a pen duel. In other situations, well, it turns out that despite hundreds of years of marketing it is [i]not[/i] mightier than a sword.

somouk - Member

I've heard of those before, the crown is normally ridged or has a shape that will help it dig in and cause more injury.

Yup. And the genius of that is that the same "attack crown" pops up on some cheap bike lights too since they share some parts. In case you want to hit someone with your entire bike.

TBH if you want to use a torch in self defence all this stuff is nonsense, the most useful thing you can do is shine it in their eyes- and any half-decent LED torch will do that job equally well.

TBH if you want to use a torch in self defence all this stuff is nonsense,

Disagree.

The six D cell Maglite I used to carry when I worked as a security guard in an abandoned steelworks provided a degree of weighty reassurance on the night shifts.

Wasn't bright enough to blind Bear Grylls though.

#Tacticalflashlights don't do that job though. The traditional scaffold-pipe-with-a-bulb-on-the-end are a different deal.

perchypanther

Disagree.

The six D cell Maglite I used to carry when I worked as a security guard in an abandoned steelworks provided a degree of weighty reassurance on the night shifts.

I'm sure the solid construction would be hugely reassuring as your assailant beats you to death with it.

#Tacticalflashlights don't do that job though. The traditional scaffold-pipe-with-a-bulb-on-the-end are a different deal.

Plus, a security guard has a genuine reason for carrying a 6 D cell bludgeoning torch. Most of the pseudo military accessories like tactical torches are bought by fantasists. The sort of people that think Call of Duty is a training exercise.

I'm sure the solid construction would be hugely reassuring as your assailant beats you to death with it.

Never a problem.

People who come into an empty steel plant in the middle of the night to nick stuff tend to be tooled up* already.
Crowbars, stanley knives and hacksaws mostly.

*for removing large quantities of heavy electrical cable...not for assaulting hapless security operatives.

Crowbars, stanley knives and hacksaws mostly.

Or [url= https://twitter.com/bencooper ]cameras[/url] 🙂

Which is handy, because you can then use it for its 'proper' purpose as you dispose of the body in a shallow grave on the moors later that evening

Only someone thick enough to buy a torch that could be seen from the moon because it's "tactical" would use it to bury a body in a remote area

Yup. They'd just follow the patches of scorched grass to the burial site.

Bizarrely I also stumbled on tactical walking sticks recently. Clearly just a cosh vaguely disguised as a walking cane. I always thought the discerning gentleman used a sword cane anyway.

WTF??

[url= https://www.rt.com/uk/363931-wool-clothing-sas-soldiers/ ]High tech knitwear..[/url]

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Bizarrely I also stumbled on tactical walking sticks recently. Clearly just a cosh vaguely disguised as a walking cane. I always thought the discerning gentleman used a sword cane anyway.

Like this Mofo? His 14 part build series is like a window into the mind of someone just dying to slit someones throat in self defence

Peyote - Member
My old DX torch has what's known as an "Assault Crown"
I wondered what this was too, I was eventually told that the crown is machined away a bit so that it can be used to dig into the flesh of any would be attacker, rather than just used as a kosh like a normal torch would.

Not sure on the veracity of this so if anyone has heard different?

I'm intrigued by the idea that a bear-blinding torch would be an effective substitute for a gun.

"Fat Tony says you better have the cash tomorrow or BOOM"
[opens jacket to reveal torch]
"That's a torch, mate"
"Yeah, but it can blind a bear"
"Why would you want to blind a bear, you horrible bastard?"
"I... I don't know"

All this makes much more sense if you're in the mindset of usually carrying a weapon. My American friend routinely carries a 9mm pistol for work. She's strikingly sane. I'm don't think she's ever drawn it, but she reckons she always knows it's there, and she is always conscious of who around her is armed and who is not.

If that's your normal experience of moving around in public, I can see that being able to carry a Tactical Pen as part of your EDC sounds less histrionically stupid and psychotic than it does to those of us who don't have as much Freedom as the Americans do.

🙂

"mindset of carrying a weapon" is rather a big deal. All the more so for us brits. A guy I know could not cope with having to carry a gun working in South Africa.

Tactical = You can fump sumwun wiv it.

Thanks. I didn't know it half an hour ago, but now I need a Gerber Shard.
Who's starting the EDC thread then?

I seemed to have provoked quite a few comments on "tactical" and EDC.... 😛

Seems my sceptiscm was correct - call an everyday heavy duty torch "tactical" and double the price!

The EDC concept is clearly bizarre to Europeans 😉 but I can understand the anxiety of not leaving the house with something you've come to regard as essential kit. If I ride with lid (almost never), gloves or glasses I feel naked and vulnerable - even though I wouldn't have worn any of those as a kid / teenager. I've conditioned myself to wearing them - a habit that puts me outside of my comfort zone if one is missing

but now I need a Gerber Shard.

From all the discussion on here, whilst you're skirting around it a bit, "tactical" means you could kill a man with it?

So how do you kill a man with those tissues?