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[Closed] Susan Boyle wanted to sing 'Perfect Day'- Lou Reed said no.

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[url= http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity/498852/subo-banned-from-america-s-got-talent.html ]Apparently she'd very upset and has had another breakdown. [/url]

(Forgive the MarieClare article; I just heard something on't radio and this was t'first link)

FFS. It's a song about HEROIN. Not some nice happy little ditty. I don't blame Lou. I'm still surprised he let the Beeb use it a few years back.

What next, Pussycat Dolls singing a remixed version of [url=

Zappa's 'Why does it hurt when I pee'??[/url]

Cheeze...


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:28 pm
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Of course it's a happy little ditty. No one cares about the words.

Just like how 'You're gorgeous' makes me smile whenever I hear it played as a love song despite it being about a sleazy photographer 🙂


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:30 pm
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..or the La's "There She Goes"

...or the UK's most popular wedding toon "Every breath you take"


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:34 pm
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At our wedding we had Perfect Day as our first dance.

It's already been destroyed by the BBC (ELTON F^&*ING JOHN 👿 ) so what does Boyle matter, eh Lou?


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:35 pm
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FFS. It's a song about HEROIN. Not some nice happy little ditty.

I didn't realise. That's really funny.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:37 pm
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Apparently "Relight My Fire" is also about smoking crack too. 😯


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:39 pm
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In the same vein, maybe she should try The Stranglers, Golden Brown....

( 😳 )


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:40 pm
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Like any song though, you can take what YOU want out if it.

I know what Lou's on about, but it doesn't matter. It worked for me as a great song to slow dance to.

(Quick PP, stick an 'L' in there before you look silly 🙂 )


 
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In the same vein

Saw what you did there...good work that man 8)


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:41 pm
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Life's a bitch. she/he deserves as much care as anyone else. Give she/he a hug.


 
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GnR Mr Brownstone? Maybe not one for SuBo though 🙂


 
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The BBC version was OK really though not sure how much it cost of our money 😉 Not sure what to think about Susan Boyle really - not her fault the way she's been promoted - does she deserve to be more promoted than so many other decent singers?


 
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I'm going to sing it right now...without Lou's permission 😛


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:42 pm
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FFS. It's a song about HEROIN. Not some nice happy little ditty.

I didn't realise. That's really funny.

It's not clear if it some believe it is but there's also believe it was about his partner at the time but that wouldn't be as cool.

Next people will be saying Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is about LSD.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:43 pm
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According to every interview Lou Reed has done Perfect Day isn't about heroin. Just most of his other songs!


 
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reap reap reap what you sow 😉

I liked steps was it singing and dancingf happily to the song Tragedy...like it was happy tune. The remake of the Chilli Peppers song about their band members OD was another classic misunderstood remake zero emotion All saints??


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 2:45 pm
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Was a nice cover though


 
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she deserves as much care as anyone else. Give her a hug

Pfft. She's a bit ****ing oversensitive. Drama queen.

The BBC version raised money for CIN, so at least there was something positive come out of the. i'm sure Bill Hicks would have accused Reed of felating The Man though...

Nah, SuBo singing it? destroys the whole mythical status of that song, and future generations won't know about it's original context. Bit like doing a kids version of 'Debbie does Dallas' but without the bits that make the original worth watching. Just wrong.

[url=

we'll have Kylie doing a mash-up of a song by a band that used to be fronted by an epleptic manic depressive if we're not careful....[/url]

[url=

Love will tear us apart, again...'[/url]


 
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All Saints under the bridge is great 🙂


 
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She's a fat mess and the only solution is to put her into a big rocket and fire her into the sun.


 
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well, i don't know the poor succesful ladies situation.


 
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According to every interview Lou Reed has done Perfect Day isn't about heroin

No, it's actually about a [i]relationship[/i]. But if you consider Reed's relationship with herion, then it sort of makes sense. Every heroin addict I've spoken to says it [i]is[/i] about the relationship with the gear. Think 'Trainspotting'. Reed only says that so he can sell more copes of it....

SuBo singing it is the final straw though. I think Reed finally gagged on Satan's tumescence, and decided he'd had enough.

She's a fat mess and the only solution is to put her into a big rocket and fire her into the sun.

That's a bit much.


 
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She's a fat mess and the only solution is to put her into a big rocket and fire her into the sun.

😆


 
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That's a bit much.

True.

We'll fire her into the moon instead


 
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the La's "There She Goes

John Power drinks in one of the hostelries I frequent (Kev; din't Mr Carter tell him Cast were shite, once?). I owe him a pint actually. Nice bloke.


 
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Wow, i never really got all this metaphor stuff before....does this mean that 'heroin' by the velvet underground is about having a pleasant stroll in the sunshine?


 
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It's like The La's on rotate on radioWork. "there she goes" it's a song about heroin.


 
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The remake of the Chili Peppers song about their band members OD

Well it wasn't really, it was about Keidis's drug taking - Knock me down was about Slovak's death.


 
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rexated - yes indeed but most people are too stupid to realise and sing along to it thinking it's suitable in their local crack den 🙄


 
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[url=

She Goes on Letterman![/url]


 
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Wow, i never really got all this metaphor stuff before....does this mean that 'heroin' by the velvet underground is about having a pleasant stroll in the sunshine?

😆
There's a Market for it though, Rolf made a packet


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 3:13 pm
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John Power drinks in one of the hostelries I frequent

The bins behind Tesco? 8)


 
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No, Jamie, being a gentleman of class and sophistication, it's actually a nice middle-class pub in Stoke Newington if you must know. 🙄

Bins behind Tescos indeed...

No, that's where I drink with Princess Anne. She loves slumming it. And once week I sniff glue on the emergency stairs by the side of Mecca Bingo with Omar Shariff. Ms Christie tend to prefer meths these days though.

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'Come on Julie love, have a sniff of me evo'
'No I'm all methed out...'


 
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anyway, so ****in what if she's a bit upset and bewildered. so what?!


 
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Wow, i never really got all this metaphor stuff before

Turning Japanese by The Vapors is about w*nking

One by One by the Foo Fighters is about m*ff diving


 
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Cheeky Girls is about global consumer culture and the insideous effect it's having on our youth. Unfortunately the Cheeky Girls were somewhat naive about the UK market, assuming that they were much brighter than they actually are and it went above the heads of pretty much everyone. Especially the serious music crowd...


 
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[url=

Wayne is Big Leggy' by Haysi Fantayzee[/url] is apparently about bottom love....


 
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Shamen's Ebeneezer Goode is about a geezer who's rather extraordinary.

A gentleman of leisure, he's there for your pleasure
But go easy on old 'Eezer, he's the love you could lose
Extraordinary fella, like Mister Punchinella
He's the kind of geezer who must never be abused.

Come to think of it, he sounds a lot like ton 🙂


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 3:23 pm
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let her sing, so whAT. it's not like everyone else has a choise? our opinion is invalid.


 
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Wow, i never really got all this metaphor stuff before

Turning Japanese by The Vapors is about w*nking

One by One by the Foo Fighters is about m*ff diving

I had to laugh when The DiVinyls were on ToTP, belting out their one and only hit. The look on my father's face was priceless.


 
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[url=

chance the innocent children, when even their playthings are subverted by the wicked? Begone, O corrupt and foul thing![/url]


 
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[Post went missing for a bit. Very strange. Hence the edit]


 
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[i]"there she goes" it's a song about heroin. [/i]

There was a book that tracked down various members of the band, came out a few years ago...I think the it was the guitarist who said "it's not ****ing about drugs..."

seemed pretty certain on the point.


 
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Who'd have thought [url=

classic tune[/url] was about being blind? 😆

'Reel around the fountain' off the first smiths album is about something unsuitable for explanation on a public forum.


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 3:55 pm
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And when I was little I thought [url=

was about the bird in this video. And not at all about Comrade Kruschef.

(from wiki)

Scenes showing the two together in various happy situations, including wearing Watford FC colours, were based in fantasy, and many were expecting a follow-up after the fall of the Berlin Wall in which they would free to be together, but it never materialised.

Oh my god, I would have wee'd my junior superman undies to see someone on TOTP in a Watford FC kit.


 
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clubber - 😆


 
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was going to post but smacked out ma nut right now


 
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Well, he shouldn't be so precious about his music..talk about prima donna. It's just a song. If he didn't want people singing it then he shouldn't have published it.


 
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Yes but he holds the rights to it's use. It's up to him who can sing it. He wrote the bloody thing! No-one's stopping SuBo writing her own songs.

'I'm Waiting for the Mayn', though- love to hear SuBo do that....


 
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Oh well...she'll just have to wait til he pops his clogs then.


 
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...and then the 25 years or more after his death, until the copyright runs out!


 
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I really don't understand what your point is. Susan liked the song and wanted to sing it, but he's so precious about his song he said no. Like I said, if it's so special to him he should have kept it just for himself.


 
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Well he's obviously decided SuBo isn't the person he want's singing his song. it's up to him.

The point is, that the Velvet Underground were part of the decadent Andy Warhol Factory/Studio 54 scene. Drugs, promiscuity and all sorts of other depravity were rife. I can understand Lou Reed not wanting a prim and proper church-going middle aged virgin doing his songs! It would be like Girls Aloud doing [url=

'One'[/url].

Mind you, that [i]would[/i] be subversive, surely?


 
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I really couldn't care if his song was about the death of his great Aunt Flo. It's just a song. Still, he can choose who he wants to sing it, and IMHO, make himself look like a precious tosser in the process.


 
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Not a VU fan, are you FoxyChick? 🙂


 
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Yes but he holds the rights to it's use. It's up to him who can sing it. He wrote the bloody thing! No-one's stopping SuBo writing her own songs.

So what happens at gigs? Do performers have to request permission to play those cheeesy covers that get trotted out in encores? Or do they just think f* that and launch in Red Red Wine without the writers aut

hority?


 
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It's just a song

Hmm, it's also [i]his[/i] song, a piece of art he created, so I think he can do what he likes with it. If I wrote a song about, say, the death of my dog, I wouldn't want, say, N-Dubz desecrating it.

In fact, I'm heartened that Lou Reed has turned down what would have been a lot of money in favour of artistic integrity. So rare today.


 
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So what happens at gigs? Do performers have to request permission to play those cheeesy covers that get trotted out in encores? Or do they just think f* that and launch in Red Red Wine without the writers aut
hority?

Copyright covers public performance, so technically they should have permission to do the song, yes. It's someone else's intellectual property. I don't think Solly Weinberg and the Bastards doing [url= http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvlvo_take-my-breath-away-berlin_music ]Berlin's 'Take My Breath Away'[/url] down the Dog and Duck would have the original artists too stressed, mind. It's about commercial gain more than artistic integrity, mostly.

If I wrote a song about, say, the death of my dog, I wouldn't want, say, N-Dubz desecrating it.

I think this sums it up more beautifully than I could possibly have done.


 
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What load of bollox!! 8)


 
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It's not bollox though FC. What if SuBo wrote a lovely song about her grandmother, but then Snoop Dogg wanted to do a version of it set to a porn video? Would she be so keen to allow her creation to be sullied thus?


 
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Can't believe Gilbert & Sullivan allowed Father Ted to sing My Lovely Horse


 
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And that cornershop let this version of brimful of asha go through


 
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'Love, Love will tear us apart, again...'

That was ruined for me by seing Peter Hook perform it. With an orchestra. In a proper dad rock style, complete with arm swinging and 'one more time guys', 'sing along guys' etc.

Going back to the original thing, she is essentially wanting to sell a cover version (the TV program is sold to broadcasters). You need permission for that, same as so people who sample songs without permission got in trouble (or people who perform obvious ripoffs / cover versions without permission, like the Verve's Bittersweet Symphony).

Joe


 
Posted : 09/09/2010 8:39 pm
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"Susan" 😆


 
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