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[Closed] Suggestions please - How to make a Ford S-max 1.8tdci better in the snow?

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Just bear in mind - if you cannot get traction to go uphill, how do you expect to get traction to slow down the other side?


 
Posted : 06/02/2012 11:35 pm
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Well in a 2WD car you have twice as much grip braking as you do accelerating.


 
Posted : 06/02/2012 11:42 pm
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Well in a 2WD car you have twice as much grip braking as you do accelerating.

Twice **** all, is still **** all.


 
Posted : 06/02/2012 11:47 pm
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Tyres tyres tyres.

I imagine on something quite commonplace like a S-Max, you should be able to find Ford steel wheels very cheaply, then fit out with some winter tyres. They work better in the cold (under 7 degrees) than summer tyres will, so can be run over the whole winter time. Else mytyres.co.uk will do you a set of 4 new steel wheels pre-fitted with winter tyres from about £400. Worth bearing in mind that while you're using those, you're not wearing out your regular tyres, so costs less overall than you might think.

Otherwise snowsocks are OK as an emergency option if you're otherwise stuck. You don't get the benefit of better braking and cornering all the time though, and you can't go very far (or fast) on them without them disintegrating.

Generally fresh snow isn't so much of a problem for most FWD cars - it's when other cars have gone over it already and compacted it down into slushy icy stuff that it becomes more problematic.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 12:33 am
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Twice * all, is still * all.

Quite easy to drive down our hill that one time, very difficult to get back up if I recall.


 
Posted : 07/02/2012 12:55 am
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Don't have too much problem goping DH - low gear, no revs, no (very little) brake and NO clutch.

Have to say though - beginning to think that we should have / consider a no gritting policy.


 
Posted : 08/02/2012 10:37 am
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So..........
I went out and got 2 Dunlop Winter Tyres for the front and what a transformation, BUT

Word of caution, the old tyres were goosed, so I am comparing old to new.

2nd word of caution, I am now LOOKING for snow to test them on, there was a bit at the sides of the road the other day and I couldn't stop myself!

The car tracks much better (I am getting the wheels aligned this week. The tyre fella said it was better to let them bed in first for a week - never heard that before, but seems reasonable).

The tyres do feel more grippy on tarmac, but as ever I AM KEEPING A HEALTHY UNEASE about driving in extreme winter conditions. I agree with the eabove, to avoid if possible. I'll post here after winter to see how I came on.

Thanks again STW for a good debate to help me sort my dithering mind. I'm off to the STW shop to show my appreciation this weekend.


 
Posted : 18/02/2012 12:04 pm
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M and s is german for slush and snow ? Who told you that ?


 
Posted : 18/02/2012 12:26 pm
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Well, it's short for matsch und schnee. Schneematsch meens slush... But matsch can mean mud. (it's the source of the english word mush, I believe)


 
Posted : 18/02/2012 2:20 pm
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Im just curious as extreme off road tires are sold as m and s tires


 
Posted : 18/02/2012 2:34 pm
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