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As work has grown they have shoe-horned new levels of seniority into the company, which essentially has meant I have an even higher gleaming tower in front of me to climb. Most of them seemed to be roles that previously existed, but then had a 'Senior' placed in front, creating a whole new level of job-ness. This went from your basic grunt right up to the Exec VPs.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 10:23 am
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change agent

Seriously it's explains itself

I'm not being [i]deliberately[/i] stupid, just asking for a clarification ins a stupid, flippant way.

The thing is, [b]change [/b]is a word people understand. [b]Agent[/b] is a word that people understand. But a [b]change agent[/b]? They're a catalyst? A chemical compound? or a business consultant? the nasty people a company gets in when they need to lay off a swathe of people, costing as much as the company has saved by laying them off? Does one improve the current systems and processes?

Many people, myself included, don't have enough experience in all the walks of business talk to imagine the endless possibilities of how such a title is self-explanatory or could be interpreted in several different ways. I'll go an read the link from earlier on now and edjucate myself!

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A change agent is a person from inside or outside the organization who helps an organization transform itself by focusing on such matters as organizational effectiveness, improvement, and development. A change agent usually focuses his efforts on the effect of changing technologies, structures, and tasks on interpersonal and group relationships in the organization. The focus is on the people in the organization and their interactions.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 2:43 pm
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Posted : 07/02/2017 2:58 pm
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"Principal Growth manager"

Fluffer?


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 3:05 pm
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Until recently I was a 'Business Support Officer', which is a long way of saying Admin.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 4:49 pm
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I was left to fill out my own bsuiness card order once 20ish years ago and ended up with 'Justified Online Ancient of Mu'

Still have a couple of the cards for old time's sake. They remind of a time when I didn't have a mortgage to pay and I could tell 'the man' to chuffing ram-it whenever I fancied.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 4:55 pm
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"Happiness Engineer"s. What the ...?

Chinese whispers. It should be "a penis engineer".


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 4:55 pm
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I was left to fill out my own bsuiness card order once 20ish years ago and ended up with 'Justified Online Ancient of Mu'

Several times throughout my career I've been offered the chance to create my own job title. On seeing my choices, not once has that offer been upheld.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 5:45 pm
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Chinese whispers.

Racist


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 5:51 pm
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I was a 'Senior Technician Engineer' for about a year, FIIK why. Then I moved, and went back to being a techie.

And I know what seadog does.


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 6:06 pm
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Thanks Jon Taylor. I wasn't pretending to misunderstand what a change agent is either. Of course I know what "change" and "agent" mean but that obviously doesn't mean that I know what a change agent is!


 
Posted : 07/02/2017 6:30 pm
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methinks mikewsmith is a change agent. He's very defensive of them ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 8:16 am
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Agile Delivery Manager, ffs.
Nothing to do with postmen vaulting fences pursued by dogs.


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 2:07 pm
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Seen elsewhere:

[url= http://www.stanleyparkhigh.org.uk/13/our-team ]http://www.stanleyparkhigh.org.uk/13/our-team[/url]


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 2:55 pm
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Or how about 'Scrum Master'?
Is it any coincidence that many if not most [pretentious] titles above relate to IT roles?


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 3:44 pm
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Seen elsewhere:

http://www.stanleyparkhigh.org.uk/13/our-team

*s*****

"Head of Aqua" means swimming teacher I guess? ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 4:03 pm
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But if you have business processes called Agile and Scrum, what do you want to call the people who lead them?


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 4:06 pm
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But if you have business processes called Agile and Scrum, what do you want to call the people who lead them?

Project manager...


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 4:36 pm
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i recently met a [i]Director of Customer Success[/i]


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 4:48 pm
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Working for myself, any title whatsoever is within my remit to occupy.

Last conference I signed up with 'barely believable, often misinformed idiot' and they only went and rejected it. So I went with Rocket Scientist instead which was fine.

I've met Heads of Ideation, Curators of Human Capital and Customer Experience Advocates. And while they grate a bit, the - now somewhat outdated protocol - cramming of every certificate from Bronze Swimming' upward onto a business card in tiny type was properly irritating.

I used to take the card and read it back, qualifications and all. That was fun ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 4:50 pm
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Project manager...

Sure, but you could also call them 'manager' or 'worker' why is your level of specificity appropriate but that of others, not?


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 5:40 pm
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My job title was once "European Sales Manager". I asked for "Bloody Rep" on my card, but the idea was rejected.


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:14 pm
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Sure, but you could also call them 'manager' or 'worker' why is your level of specificity appropriate but that of others, not?

Because running a project via Agile is different to Scrum (or Prince 2, or plain old APM methodology).

The transferable skills might be the same (just general project management), but the specifics are different.

A bit like calling someone a BMW sales rep, Audi sale rep, Ford sales rep, etc.


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:20 pm
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Talking of IT,

I've mentioned this before, but a friend of a friend is in middle management in a trendy IT startup. His job title is possibly the greatest I've ever heard: "End of Level Boss."


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:23 pm
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Very few people that call themselves PMs, are ๐Ÿ™‚

Anyhow, my contribution is 'User Researcher'.

Edit: Ooh, and 'Business Analyst'. Means naff all!


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:23 pm
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Ohh and pedantry, job titles are always lower case unless referring to someone.

The king of a country can abdicate to the prince.

The King abdicated to the Prince.

The Manager (a person) is looking for a new secretary (a job title).


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:24 pm
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My boss is apparently 'Scotland Director'. I wonder what Mrs Sturgeon thinks of that.....


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:24 pm
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Because running a project via Agile is different to Scrum (or Prince 2, or plain old APM methodology).

The transferable skills might be the same (just general project management), but the specifics are different.

Right and so when being specific about a job title, it makes sense to reflect that, no?


 
Posted : 08/02/2017 6:32 pm
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