[Closed] Strikes to cost UK £500m.

Fantasy figures.

The government said it, so it must be true.

Kenny Senior - Member
According to this

So if the public sector, or whatever proportion of it that is striking, will cost the UK £500m by not turning up for work next week, then they must either create £500m a day, or save the UK £500m a day.

The government won't be paying a hefty number of people so they'll recoup a bit of the alleged £500m there.....

So we save the Ecconomy £500m a day, i want a pay rise then, and i think private sector workers better start paying more tax for my services.

Economy

Let's pull a figure out of the air! Double it! And add a hundred million quid! 🙄

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The shops should do well, as will the car park attendants as people will think theyre on strike, but most are privatised.

Well surely as its a dispute between two parties, the public sector workers and the government, then the Government are equally to blame for any losses.

so how much did the bank holiday for the royal wedding cost us, not to mention the extra holiday next year for queenies big celebration?

bollucks argument if you ask me

I would believe this figure if all[b] private[/b] sector workers were on strike.

Wonder how much they'll save in not paying wages?

Vodafone bill?

I'd lose £50 if I didn't go to work

Now if 10000000000000000000 of me don't turn up does that work?

£10 an adult head... 🙄

Always have been shit at maths I blame the teachers for striking in 80's

Now if [i]10,000,000,000,000,000,000 [/i]of me don't turn up does that work?

Ermm! Your maths is out but I take it your around band 2 NHS wage, some of us are on higher.

Hopefully Big (hitters') Society will mobilise to rescue UK plc.

I do not understand why he's said this... Even assuming it's correct, which I doubt, why would it support his argument? The striking public sector workers facilitate £500m of benefit per day? That's fantastic, good for them, we should recognise that rather than penny pinch. We can't afford the strike? Negotiate better then. Strikers are worried it won't be effective? Not any more.

Sure, some people will add it to their "greedy public sector, costing us a fortune" ideas but those people think that already.

It is a figure from the Treasury. The same Treasury whose growth projections couldn't be trusted according to Osborne, which is why he created the OBR. Who you can trust, but they get it wrong.

I'm sure all the loony lefties will have a great day marching, and the bigger group of slackers will all have a great day in the pub. However, given even most union members don't support the strikes, I expect UK plc will mainly be business as usual on the day.

A few parents and elderly people will suffer. And they will all vote Dave and George in again next time. So the unions will be even less likely to have any say in things.

However, given even most union members don't support the strikes

Well they didn't vote not to strike, so how do you work that out?

However, given even most union members don't support the strikes

LOLz

So using the Ford Prefect argument for the construction workers to not knock down Arthur Dent's house. If we assume the strike will go ahead the cost UK be £500M, instead H R Gov accept this, stick the £0.5B in to the Public sector pension fund and jobs a good un.

Simplest and the Government actually came up with the solution! Who'd have think it?

dmjb4 - Member

I'm sure all the loony lefties will have a great day marching, and the bigger group of slackers will all have a great day in the pub. However, given even most union members don't support the strikes,

Big turnouts, huge majorities even among staff groups that have never struck before

OOP North they have decided to walk out from manning the mersey tunnels so no buses to liverpool,from the Wirral,no ferries, and a privatised railway running 30 year old trains that probably want be able to cope.

dmjb4 - Member

given even most union members don't support the strikes

That's a particularily gigantic lie there, congratulations.

dmjb4 - Member
However, given even most union members don't support the strikes.

Given that most people in the UK didnt vote for the Tories why dont we just ignore them.

Oh we are, great. Keep it up.

Mr Strutton said the turnout was 33% owing in part to a large proportion of lower-paid members having not signed up to the pension scheme.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15764343 ]Reference[/url]

Mr Strutton is GMB national secretary. Less than 1/3 of his members back the strike. 2/3 of them are pretty cheesed off that the union is proposing that the majority of members should hand over an obscene amount of money so that a small minority can live in luxury.

The 2/3 will turn up to work as usual.

Ah GMB well with there that lack of numbers no one will notice anyway.

dmjb4 - Member

Less than 1/3 of his members back the strike

Your reference gives no evidence of this nor does it support your argument in any way. I'm sure you must have some more though? Some seperate ballot of all members that show that every single one of the 67% of members who didn't vote, are against the strike?

Northwind: [b]I've quoted the general secretary of the union in question![/b]

By the way, here is the nice "neutral position" material sent with the ballot paper:

In materials sent with the ballot paper GMB members are advised that the government is attacking public sector pensions. Members are being asked whether they object to paying more to subsidise employers. They are also asked if they oppose having to work longer to get their pension. They are being asked whether they think it’s wrong to have the pension they have expected cut without their consent. They are told that if their answer to these questions is ‘yes’ then they should vote yes for industrial action

[url= http://www.gmb.org.uk/newsroom/latest_news/gmb_public_services_ballot.aspx ]Reference, GMB website[/url]

For the loony types reading this, the above is clearly not neutral. It does not set out both sides views. I suspect a more free campaign is permitted in Zimbabwe and Syria.

 

I suspect a more free campaign is permitted in Zimbabwe and Syria.

Keep it up. Comedy gold. 😆

dmjb4 - Member

Northwind: I've quoted the general secretary of the union in question!

And the quote doesn't support your argument at all, or indeed relate to your argument at all.

"neutral position"

Why do you think the unions should be neutral?

Well it's obvious ...... because they shouldn't be taking sides in this dispute.

They should remain neutral ...... just like the government is.

What's the matter with you 'loony types' ffs ?

i'm rather liking the fact that the government, having had quite some time to prepare for this, have done almost nothing. except that is offer, what was it, £450 for the day for managers to do the border thing. which they've turned down. sweet.

which means the government is saving even more money given that they're not actually paying any of the strikers. that means they must've saved a chunk of money. maybe they could spread that around a bit to compensate businesses seeing as they've failed to sort out the negotiations. or does that only happen if they're bailing out their banker pals?

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I suspect a more free campaign is permitted in Zimbabwe and Syria

We voted for it,despite anything you are trying to claim;however if your chat on here is anything to go by,the teachers strike will barely affect you,as there is no danger you will have kids.

Nice response from behind the protection of your keyboard there duckman. No need to start getting nasty, try adding to the debate 🙄

Debate with someone who has been insulting from their first post?

Why is it okay for dmjb4 to insult people but not for duckman to respond in kind?

Could it have something to do with which argument* you support?

* 😆

dmjb4,

Mr Strutton is GMB national secretary. Less than 1/3 of his members back the strike. 2/3 of them are pretty cheesed off that the union is proposing that the majority of members should hand over an obscene amount of money so that a small minority can live in luxury.

Very simple question dmjb4,

If 2/3 of the union are against the strike, why didn't they just vote against it when balloted?