Most i know are in, probably 95% or more.
If some people who support one particular position are lying through their teeth it doesn't make one iota of difference to me, since I'm not actually voting for them
But surely what the campaigns are saying is designed to influence voting? Otherwise, why have a campaign?
IN or OUT please otherwise The Man will lock it.
Lunch yesterday indicated all my & my girlfriends family are out, as am I.
Work I dont know, politics are rarely discussed since the disappointing day we discovered a leftie in our numbers.
/hovers over lock button.
I'm in along with most of the people I know.
I'm in and was getting hugely depressed at all the Leave posters on farmland while traveling down south. But all the people (except the over 70s) were in. Up here in the north it's more mixed. I know two outers, and some genuinely conflicted people who have arguments on both sides but the rest of my friends are in. Lefties, arty types and environmentalists though.
But surely what the campaigns are saying is designed to influence voting?
Well of course it is. But it doesn't change the fact that you aren't actually voting for or against anyone.
It's similar to the 2011 UK referendum on proportional representation. The No campaign specifically targeted Nick Clegg because they knew that he had become deeply unpopular with the electorate, and proportional representation was the LibDem's flagship policy.
It was in fact the principle condition which the LibDems attached to forming a full coalition with the Tories.
The British electorate gave a resounding No in alternative vote referendum. There is little doubt that the sheer size of the No vote was down to a public reaction to Nick Clegg's lying. It was deeply humiliating for Clegg.
I very much doubt that British voters support the first past the post system to quite the extent which the referendum suggested.
So was the 2011 referendum a vote for or against the Liberal Democrats ? Of course not.
Drac - Moderator/hovers over lock button.
Why ? No one is discussing the virtues or otherwise of being in the EU.
And with that.
Right last chance.
A big thanks to all those who have kept it on track, to those that seem hell bent on arguing please go elsewhere.
I'm in, if for no other reason that I am yet to hear or believe any compelling evidence to leave. Most folks I know are the same, or so they say anyway.
I'm in, think the majority of people I know who've expressed an opinion are in but not all, by a long shot.
In my area of Bristol (classic Guardian / Fair Trade latte / VW campervan territory) and amongst friends and acquaintances: it's [i]visibly[/i] 100% in...with the rare exception of the token Tory council candidate who is our opposite neighbour and one Leave poster I spotted on the next street.
I suspect there are quite a few quiet Leavers though. Our street's windows are a collage of In posters of all varieties and colours, so you'd have to be brave to be that one house to declare your Leave support in the same way.
In.
Work colleagues in (environment, engineering)
Family in, including parents in 80s and in-laws in late 70s. Credit to them, their inclinations are probably out, but they recognise the risks to and desires of their kids and grand kids.
Wider friends - either in or not stated (career professionals)
Wider family - out (farmers, small business owners)
All the coffin dodgers are outies, virtually everyone I know who it will materially affect are innies, except the bit racist ones.
I'm in, SO and her family are all in. Mother and sister are out and refuse point blank to talk about it. They also have their cameras covered up with tape on their phones...
In for the wife & I. Same for my Mother & SF
I was surprised that on a recent visit to the in laws (mid 70's still running their own business) they were both "in" as well given they are Cotswolds living DM readers.
Work is about 50% in 30% out 20% not sure (Food factory in the NW)
During Indyref I was quite vociferous in conversation and on social media to regarding my choice to vote Yes. I was aware, after the result, that I was perhaps influencing how those around me reacted; perhaps many yoonies just stayed quite. This time I've not been posting or saying anything but my overall impression is still that Remain is the favoured option amongst those I interact with. There is a feeling that many folk have yet to properly decide and maybe it's time for more people to "come out of the closet" and make their preference known in order to help persuade them.
Most of my older family are voting out, citing the usual angry reasons why (someone else governing us, immigration, bailing out Greece etc...). Me and my wife are firmly IN though.
Interestingly living in the country where the farmers must be one off the biggest recipients of EU funds, they all seem to be wanting out. Poster everywhere.
Personally now voting In as I don't trust our politicians new or old to look after the masses. Also if we voted out there is no way any westminster government would ever provide funding for all our love trail centres.
However if I wake up on Friday and we have voted out, I don't think I would be disappointed.
A few out, but mostly in.
A few friends are on the fence and, to their absolute credit, are doing some research.
Interestingly living in the country where the farmers must be one off the biggest recipients of EU funds, they all seem to be wanting out. Poster everywhere.
It's the same in Norfolk. Bro-in-law works for the council and has been amazed at the huge UKIP support, despite it being a poorer county and EU grants being available.
For me, everyone I know with a good job and/or are self starters are in; retiree's and people with more basic jobs who are cruising are out.
Was in - now definite out, never vote tory again while cameron and osborn are in the party.
All family and friends out
Dont read red tabloids either
In. Was in by default to start with, but couple of friends arguing for out quite sensibly have made me look into all the arguments both ways, rather than be turned off by the overtones of deceit and some of the odious characters on the out campaign.
Still out. Along with 95% of my friends, and 95% of the people at work - Swiss financial services company, clients are large multinationals
Google play rewards asked me how I'm voting this morning and paid 19p for the pleasure!
I would say a good mix of in out and don't know
Myself and the majority of people I know well (work colleagues, family, friends) are firmly IN. A quick mental calculation of those I know for sure are defiantly voting OUT is about 6 or 7.
So I reckon that's about an 80/20 split in favour of IN.
Plus 1 or 2 undecided.
Paddy Power have the odds
Remain @ 2/7
Leave @ 11/4
Most of my circle of acquaintances are IN with the odd OUT, but I'm an ex-game developer so lots of friends still in that industry and other media type stuff.
My parents both in their 80s are both IN but spent 10+ years travelling around Europe, my step Mum says almost all the other "old" people (in her words) she chats too online are all OUT.
I'm voting out. There's too many immigrants in this country. Aussies everywhere.
Streuth!
Was in - now definite out, never vote tory again while cameron and osborn are in the party.
Genuine question - why the switch?
TBH I can't stand Cameron or Osborne, but I have to look beyond them, especially as the alternative on the other side of the fence is Johnson, IDS and Gove, and then Farage loitering with the unofficial leavers like a bad smell.
UPDATE: one of the out-ers has changed his mind after watching this Liverpool uni lecturer video that has been floating around -
He was so very OUT - a lifelong Tory, 80 years old, Surrey dweller, that he was shouting us down about it last month. Then he watched this, realised that Boris and Farage would be in charge of re-drafting a few thousand new laws, and realised he didn't trust them as far as he could throw them.
So that's now about 97% IN.
i'd say 90% IN.The 90% are 20s and 30s, generally lefty creative arts types in inner cities, who you'd totally expect to be voting in. The 10% are over 70 and lifelong Tories. One guy wasn't sure but everyone in the pub was telling him to vote in.
Honestly, almost everyone I know and/or work with and am in regular contact with is out. There's a mix of folk who left school aged 15 through to holders of multiple Bachelors & Masters degrees, "normal" 9-5 office workers through to very successful small business owners employing 20+ folk, ages 25-70. That's between rural Scotland, the NE of England and Sheffield.
Interestingly, the only "inny" I know well is a retired millionaire who set up a very lucrative business in the field of reservoir engineering (Oil & Gas), and whose only input on the whole erosion of terms and conditions forced through by the oil companies in the name of 'inevitable cuts as a result of the present economic climate' was, "Good. They've had it too good for too long offshore". Clearly not every "Remain" supporter is doing so because they value workers rights.
Almost universally out except for the real socialist I know. Mix of many "professions" civil servants plus lots of self employed especially in building, engineering etc.
I suspect that for many the issue is confusing. Many of my friends cannot tell what actually will happen from a financial point of view as no one knows and any one who thinks they do is wrong.
From a social view is much more clear. Immigration is a huge issue. Like me most people I know care nothing about race but we do care that we are full and that more houses are going up each year.
3 million immigrants in recent years equals a lot of housing going into gaps in villages and in suburban fields. Happy with millions moving in as long as more move out. Don't care about the race of those moving either way.
Many of us object to being linked culturally or politically. People are not saying that they wish to ditch all EU rules but are saying that we must have to vote to have them. Finally many feel that as we didn't vote the current situation in it shouldn't exist. We voted for a small financial agreement and the rules have changed.
"odious characters on the out campaign"
both sides!
As we are dealing with politicians its a default anyway.
Those < 50, in.
Those > 50, out.
thestabiliser - Member
All the coffin dodgers are outies,
We've never met... 😉
Almost universally out except for the real socialist I know. Mix of many "professions" civil servants plus lots of self employed especially in building, engineering etc.
I suspect that for many the issue is confusing. Many of my friends cannot tell what actually will happen from a financial point of view as no one knows and any one who thinks they do is wrong.
Well at best there will only be a small hit to the economy at worst it will be devastated. The idea that there will be no negative effect is beyond fantasy. Just about every Single major analyst suggests that economy will go one way to some extent. The out campaign have a few business people who by their nature have vested interests in their particular niche. The idea that massively effecting our trade deal with the largest market in the world will have no effect to the economy is stupid.
From a social view is much more clear. Immigration is a huge issue. Like me most people I know care nothing about race but we do care that we are full and that more houses are going up each year.
3 million immigrants in recent years equals a lot of housing going into gaps in villages and in suburban fields. Happy with millions moving in as long as more move out. Don't care about the race of those moving either way.
Leaving the EU means either reducing immigration by killing the economy, or having the same immigration as business will require the same immigration, but then more will come from Asia as the wage gap is even grater and so cheaper! The entire argument over these two point is so poor I do not understand how either have gained traction.
There are few people I know who want to stay in.
Possibly age group, possibly location, but more probably the socio-group - manual workers.
Leicestershire.
Was an outie for a very long time, then came to the realisation that Boris and his ultra neo liberal ilk will be setting the agenda for workers rights, tax, the NHS, social housing and will be negotiating the exit with the EU, which brought me to the conclusion that The road to Wigan Pier and Down and out in Paris and London would soon become modern reading on the state of the nation. I am now firmly IN (couldn't change if I wanted, I have a postal vote which I posted almost as soon as the envelope dropped on the door mat)
Oh and most people I know are voting IN except a couple in their 70's and they are for out (One is German)
then came to the realisation that Boris and his ultra neo liberal ilk will be setting the agenda
Then vote them out at the next election, isn't that the way its supposed to work?
EdwardH wants the EU to protect him from the British electorate.
The next election is a little time away... and whilst one may wish to be able to vote a certain politician out, your vote may not 'count' if you are voting against the encumbent of a safe seat. Your vote in the referendum [i]will[/i] count - and a vote to stay in will help ensure that Boris et al are a step further away from power.
