He is simply lovely at times but as frustrating as **** at others. He is very bright, picked up loads of commands very easily, sitting waiting for food, goes in his bed when we eat etc But will he walk? Will he ****!
Well I say he won't walk, Saturday and Sunday he shot round the block no problem, loved it. Today and yesterday, cowering like an abused dog, crawling on all four and physically shaking. I am beginning to wonder if he's all there?
Much like the majority of ppl on here, he needs to get out more.
Meet people and sights sounds etc. Baby steps. And bait and reward.
A puppy thread. A thread on which you expect help. A thread without pictures.
No, I'm sorry. That simply won't do. Rectify this immediately, then we will help.
Flashy I still after x amount of years don't know how to post pics.
As regards getting him out plenty he gets plenty of opportunity but will not walk. Stubborn to the point where I didn't realise dogs went. I thought it was in the genetic make up to ****ing walk!
For starters he is probably feeling your unease with him , walking, if you are showing your dismay on here. As said you must get him out and venture and reward him for doing good things. Its a big world that he is probably uneasy about. We used to sit at the end of our road, so our pup could take in everything around her. Such as people, buses, cars, noise and other 'new' things. Patience and understanding will sort him out in time.
May be try the Park rather than the street
May be try the Park rather than the street
Yep, get him busting out some moves in the park.
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Cats are far better at street, as they can grind a bench all day long.
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This dog has been on 4/5 mile jaunts quite happily, I spend time knelt down with him, rub his chest to reassure him, treats regularly when he does walk. It's as though he forgets everything that was good about the previous walks. Plus he is now 19 weeks old.
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Beaten to it!
As people have said use treats as a motivator, this will work a lot better if you haven't fed him before taking him for a walk.
Don't feed him until at least 15 mins or nearer to half hour after the walk.
Can you walk with another dog a few times for him to learn from another dog?
4/5 mile walks at 19 weeks?
4/5 mile walks at 19 weeks?
That's way too much at that age.
Should be roughly 5mins walk per month of age, so about 25 mins at 5 months.
Well probably nearer 3 mile but yes he's definitely covered that very happily over the fields behind the house. I had this same conversation with the vet re distance and he said it was OK so longs as it wasn't done regularly, which to be honest after today's 12metres isn't really an issue!
Unless you mean four fifths of a mile, 4 - 5 miles is a lot for a puppy. He must be ****ed after them. No wonder he doesn't fancy going out. He's now at 19 weeks so you're running out of time - whatever you need to do, do it fast and do it properly.
Exactly.
2x 10/15 min walks a day and let it bounce around the house between.
4/5mile walks are going to cripple it.
Did you take it to puppy classes to socialise it?
Did you take it to puppy classes to socialise it?
Expelled I think.
They do go through different phases during their growing process, one week they can be happy and bouncy, next week they turn shy and nervous, it does happen again later on at about 9-10 months old too.
Don't stress it, take him out with a ball thrower and get him enjoying his surroundings.
so longs as it wasn't done regularly, which to be honest after today's 12metres isn't really an issue!
That is like you sitting round for a week and then going out to run a marathon and wondering why you don't enjoy it.
Short, regular consistent exercise. Long stints out of the blue are just going to cause joint problems.
Don't forget the joints are not fully formed. 3 miles of walking (or 4 or 5) will just be wearing away at the joints and that damage cannot be repaired..
The pup has been in its life I would say on 5 walks of an hour, at no point did the pup require dragging or subsequently collapse on getting home. The vet who I asked about this said it was fine as above, this vet struck me as a knowledgeable chap.
None of these walks took place before he was fully immunised so they were definitely after 15 weeks. The pup on Saturday and Sunday of last week has been out twice each day for 1 mile walks. Today and yesterday he will not walk. This is nothing to with being bolloxed or pain because on returning to the garden he goes mental playing Frisbee etc.
The pup has been to puppy classes and has had loads of socialisation, unfortunately he's been kicked out for being an aggro shit. I've done pretty much everything that's been advised on here and by others, other than it would seem over exercising him.
Friend has a similar problem with her dog - he's great on open parkland or in the country but is timid and reluctant to go for a walk on roads and particularly hates narrow confined spaces such as the pavement between cars and a wall or an alleyway.
Get him out playing in the garden with a lead on, walk him in the garden. He needs to explore the big world.
And as you can see from his photo he looks like a hard dog 😆
Oh and never get a ****ing terrier!
I loved my border terrier to bits, but she was the most aggressive and unsociable dog I've ever know with other dogs, my spaniels I have now are a total joy.
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The pup has been in its life I would say on 5 walks of an hour, at no point did the pup require dragging or subsequently collapse on getting home. The vet who I asked about this said it was fine as above, this vet struck me as a knowledgeable chap.
Got a vet sat next to me who is amazed you would even take a puppy on a walk like that once.
unfortunately he's been kicked out for being an aggro shit.
Find a DECENT dog trainer. They will advise you on a lot and train the both of you. You and the dog will end up much happier.
Even experienced dog owners run into trouble and need help once in a while.
His mother was a short legged jack, what the **** went on in the mixing process I have no idea, he's been weighed at the vets today (yes responsible owner you see) and he's nearly 12 kg already!
I made it up tell them.
And the reason I got onto the conversation with the vet was because I mentioned riding and running with him and safe distances to cover. I'll be honest here though, I didn't know pups were so prone to damage before we had him, another reason for asking on his first vet visit.
he's nearly 12 kg already!
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12kg?
Dearest breeder lady informed me he wouldn't get much bigger than his mother.
I made it up tell them.
???? WTF
4/5 miles then 3 miles then made it up? Make your mind up.
12kg? Are you sure? What exactly is he?
Human babies are useless. It takes us years to be able to do anything. Just because a dog can walk and run around pretty quickly it doesnt mean it can do a lot as the joints are still developing. Don't forget it is growing fast and gaining weight fast which all puts stress on joints.
For riding 1 year is the minimum and even then build it up VERY gradually and slowly up to 18 months. If you cause damage now it will be crippled later on, and in some cases not that much later on.
You've got plenty of other things to concentrate on training wise so use the time for that instead of long walks and like human babies routine and rules. Serious time and play time etc etc.
I was referring to what the vet said being made up.
My perception of distance was out according to the wife and the hour walks would be 3 miles not 4/5.
Re his weight he was 4.6 kg when we first had him at 10 weeks, he was today 12kg so nearly tripled in weight. He is a short legged jack crossed with a beagle. I kid you not the short leg jack was definitely short as I met that one.
And Andy I appreciate your advice, I will unlike most on here listen and heed what you said re the walks and distances.
I don't have a dog, but I have been watching the Dog Whisperer on [url= http://www.tvguide.co.uk/titlesearch.asp?title=The+Dog+Whisperer ]Pick TV.[/url]
Its pretty impressive how quickly he can sort dogs out most of the time, well worth a watch if you can get that channel.
[url= http://www.cesarsway.com/ ]Cesar Millan.[/url]
Mother-in-law has always had dogs (experienced), but the current one (a lab) has always had a problem with other dogs, some it will pass without any sign of a growl, others it will go for. Its recall is also not that good.
Which means every walk is stressful, constantly on and off the lead, trying to avoid other dogs. A lot of its down to the walker as she knows the dogs it doesn't get on with and the dog picks up on this big time, unknown dogs it gets the same message. Father-in-law claims he won't put her on the lead and its a completely different dog when he walks her! (but you could never walk her near a road or anything that'll run when chased)
Get a good trainer whilst its young and maximise the socialising, otherwise you'll get set yourself up for a dogs lifetime of aggro, being pulled over and the constant fear of a slipped collar.
On the other hand, our riding friends have a couple of brilliant dogs that are totally predictable and trustworthy, even crossing a busy road or in a field of sheep. Makes life so much easier!
A good walking pace on a flat even surface would be 4mph , walking a young puppy is stop start sniff start stop sniff , there's no way you covered 5 miles in an hour . Your frustration is very obvious to everyone just reading the thread - as said already find a good trainer , one that understands terrier mentality . One thing i can promise after 30 years of terrier ownership and the last 3 years being involved in dog training is its going to get worse for you if you don't get some proper help and guidance while he's a pup .
I don't have a dog, but I have been watching the Dog Whisperer on Pick TV.
Its pretty impressive how quickly he can sort dogs out most of the time, well worth a watch if you can get that channel.
Cesar Millan.
A man who's techniques have been widely criticised as cruel. No ta.
I dont think his methods are cruel as such, he's clearly a talented dog handler the problems arise with people trying to apply his methods to general dog training. His methods are useful on problem dogs that didnt get trained lroperly first.
This inspired me to watch a bit of a Cesar video. He was training a lab with aggression problems and got it wrong - it bit him and he kicked it!
it bit him and he kicked it!
I thought that was standard STW advice for dealing with aggressive dogs.
I bit my dog back when he was a puppy. he hasn't done it again to me.
Exercise at that age should just be play. Don't worry about walking him just yet. Get him used to lead work in the garden. Part of the dogs development is to go through a period of extreme anxiety. If they get spooked at this age it can affect them through their adult life. Be firm but fair and just reassuring when he gets spooked. Never lose your temper or show anger at his behaviour. He'll come round just take it slowly. Best of luck.
[i]I thought that was standard STW advice for dealing with aggressive dogs.[/i]
To be fair, it was bad bite - the dog had a good grip on his hand, so he probably just reacted. Bit uncool though.
Re-reading this thread has just reminded me of an incident this weekend, I was at Hickstead and was waiting at the Snack van with a few other people.
A womans dog (Spaniel?) went for another dog walking past and she wasn't ready for it so dropped the lead. She made a grab for the dog so it shot under the nearest car where she proceeded to give it three good kicks to the ribs whilst it was cowering up under the wheelarch, and then after dragging it out continued with the odd smack across the nose.
She was a disgrace and it shocked me, and that she would do it so publicly as well. Couldn't think of anything to say unfortunately, it was all over in 10 seconds.