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Seems as if us northerns dont want east enders type people moving up here, also where are these 50o houses theyre all supposed to be moving into.
Abetter idea would be to evict elizabeth windsor and her freloading family and convert buckingham palace into flats and bedsits, using unemployed tradesmen, and the unemployed rest as labourers, a win win situation, great for the building industry, unemploymnet, and plenty of space for barbeques, second cars, and settes and old tvs, in the garden.
They heard Elfin was on his way up north
swedishmatt - Member
I've had a change of heart. Let's all get a council house. And let's all get a citizen's income. I think this sounds great. I think everyone who wants to live in London should, because it would be unfair otherwise.Forcing poor people to move, terrible. I mean, it's just horrendous isn't it. Like moving. Yeah. Normal people don't have to do they. Commute? What's this? No, people DESERVE to live in central London.
How do you expect someone on HB to pay for public transport to commute into London? I'm 40 minutes away from Victoria and a peak time travelcard is over £20!
When did the UK end up a socialist utopia?
FFS
Lifer: guess what would be cheaper, a flat, or travel card. Perhaps subsidize that?
So where are all the low-paid workers who clean the streets and offices of the City, and do all the other invisible jobs that make our capital city function going to live - bit of an expensive commute from Stoke. Lots of low-paid workers and many pensioners get Housing Benefit - are you proposing that someone who has lived and worked all their life in the East End should move to a place where they have no connections to see out their final years?
Swedishmatt, I've got a better idea....
Perhaps we should remove all the second homes and letting properties off the middle ages baby boomer **nts who own most of the property in this country and whom have bled this country dry and then redistribute the property to the young.
We will turn on you and your ilk one day and don't start crying when the lynching of rich boomers and public school boys starts happening. It will have been coming to you.
swedishmatt - MemberHousing benefit in this country is utterly sick and lines the pockets of landlords and in the end banks at the expense of the councils/state/public.
Spot on is a disgrace.
I guess thats Maggie for you! Quality PM 🙄
Bwaarp no idea why you think i'm part of the boomer generation. Second homes should be taxed to hell. Btl tax breaks removed, mechanisms to treat houses as things to live in, not investments.
How can you lot support housing benefit in its current state? Beyomd me. If pensioners are vulnerable im sure we can work something out.
swedishmatt - Member
Lifer: guess what would be cheaper, a flat, or travel card. Perhaps subsidize that?
People can't sleep in travelcards.
I blame Maggie.
lynching of rich boomers and public school boys starts happening.
How about starting with the Newham Labour Councillor who owns eighteen rental properties in the district?
http://mgov.newham.gov.uk/mgDeclarationSubmission.aspx?UID=193&HID=1807&FID=0&HPID=9962643
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that is shocking z11, i still blame saint margaret though
of course she may charge completely reasonable rental prices, maybe
the more i think about it the more im in favour of capping rental prices, might even free up some housing stock as landlords flog off their (ex) cash cows
of course its still madness that councils are having to pay such ludicrous prices for ex council houses, (how shortsighted was the ironlady!)
Kimbers, as with most problems in this country, the problem has slowly built up because politicians of any hue have made electoral promises that have to be paid for with post dated cheques. Now - surprise, surprise - those post dated cheques are due and its difficult to pay them.
I'm confident that after a brief period of paraded bleeding stumps by councils/politicians - rents in the private sector will fall to match the cap.
That's because private sector landlords will set their DHSS rents to the maximum they know they can get away with. If the cap is £500 a week, that's what they'll charge. If the cap falls to £400 a week, they'll suddenly find they can live with that.
This is not a housing crisis: it is a crisis caused by politicians ignoring reality over the last 10 - 20 years.
If the cap falls to £400 a week, they'll suddenly find they can live with that.
Would that be true if they're part of the mortgaged to the hilt new breed of landlords who are trying to make a few quid?
If pensioners are vulnerable im sure we can work something out.
And disabled? and how about other vulnerable people. what are yo going to do - can we have some solutions?
Would that be true if they're part of the mortgaged to the hilt new breed of landlords who are trying to make a few quid?
So they go bust and the house gets repossessed, then put back on the market - lots of houses come back on the market, prices drop.
the buy to let bubble bursts and there's more housing available for everyone at more reasonable prices
Bonus!
all that housing benefit does is artificially prop up the BTL market.
When they move the poor out, does this mean the value of the houses in those areas will go up due to less 'chavs' and crime? as the house prices go up and people the next financial level up end up stuffed and have to try and sell up and move out, where will they go then? Will they be following those who got transported and pumping up the prices even further in those areas, so that the transportees, or their children are forced to move to, well where?
Bwaarp no idea why you think i'm part of the boomer generation. Second homes should be taxed to hell. Btl tax breaks removed, mechanisms to treat houses as things to live in, not investments.How can you lot support housing benefit in its current state? Beyomd me. If pensioners are vulnerable im sure we can work something out.
I agree with some of this but not your previous diatribe.
There are other ways we can deal with this other than removing people from their homes and sending them to a new city.
We need to cap rents, place huge taxes on second homes, we need to outright ban buying to let and we need to be less worried about building houses that fit in with the "English look"....open up planning permission and start building shit loads of cheap affordable timber eco housing etc.
The city planing wreck that is London needs to be flattened and turned turned into a 21st century high rise Manhattan.
mrdestructo has it right i suppose demand is so high in london that the houses will be sold on and the prices will go up all over the area
Kimbers, thinking aloud here - but you wouldn't necessarily have to set a "maximum rent" - you could simply change the rent assessment committee rules so that the assessment of "fair rent" rather than "market rent" applied to assured and assured shorthold tenancies as well as regulated tenancies.
sure it would be quite easy to set the factors which would affect the "fair rent" accordingly, possibly on average local wage or similar.
Get those East End shirkers up to Stoke pronto and rent out their homes to some [url= http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jZ7RZipT-Mx8CSF4adgmGh27Fojw?docId=N0509541335268281799A ]hard working East European migrants[/url]