They could indeed very soon be the sixth best, with Palace on a roll
Chelsea have got to play Arsenal, M City, Brentford and Newcastle in their last 6 games.
Quite a tough run in.
I've watched their last few games and on their present form I wouldn't put money on them winning any of those.
Its not just like they've been unlucky or anything. The table doesn't lie. They look completely toothless up front and their defence is an absolute shambles
The thing with Chelsea is they have done their buying*, get the right manager and they will probably be top 4 again next season. Liverpool on the other hand need to get some quality players in to strengthen their midfield to mount a challenge to the top 4 next season, without CL football getting those players could be a problem.
That top 6 is getting congested, top 4 is getting to be a bigger challenge, dropping out now may be a longer term problem than it was a few years ago for the teams who think they have a right to success.
*although there seems to be growing probability of having to sell to make ends meet.
I used to think that US gun culture, Liz Truss and religion were baffling but Spurs' position in the league is a whole new level of confusion. They could lose every game and finish 4th.
Oooff... Leeds got proper thumped tonight
Again. We are doomed this season - Championship here we come which, in all honesty, is the best place for us.
On their current form Leeds could get dragged down the plughole. Had high hopes when they were finally promoted but they just haven't moved on.
Gutted - was hoping they would put in a stronger performance after the hammering by Palace. This was even worse and the combined scores have seriously affected our goal difference, which up till the Palace game was probably the best of the teams at the basement. Relegation may affect whether San Fransisco 49ers go ahead with their proposal to buy the club.
It's all going very wrong for Leeds - it's the first time in their history that they have conceded five or more goals in successive games. Zero confidence now and I can't see them winning again and sadly relegation is almost inevitable.
I'm pretty comfortable with relegation now. Those players just show zero fight so I'd be happy to see the back of most of them as well as the owners. Stupid managerial decisions post-Bielsa (I don't actually think Gracia was a bad appointment but was obviously not anywhere near their radar for weeks and seemed very much an "appoint anyone" thing) and some awful recruitment (£35m for Rutter who barely looks league two standard, Aaronson who contributes a grand total of nothing etc).
Think thats me done with them for this season - it sucks up too much of my time when I could be doing enjoyable stuff like riding my bike on Saturday afternoons...
I have to agree with all of the above – up until last night (even including the Palace result), I thought we had a team capable of avoiding relegation but last night changes all that – yes, we had brief periods of looking like we might get something from it but, like several times this season, we have made silly mistakes and lost concentration at key points (ie, like conceding almost straight away after getting it back to 1-2). Unfortunately, I don't see a quick bounce back from the Championship if (when) we go down.
Also - is this the first time a team has shipped 11 goals in back-to-back Premier League home games?
Also – is this the first time a team has shipped 11 goals in back-to-back Premier League home games?
No. Man Utd did it in October 1996 and went on to win the title!
Edit - Not home games both away.
Also – is this the first time a team has shipped 11 goals in back-to-back Premier League home games?
I believe they were all the last 11 shots on target too. So not like 20 shots, 9 blocked or saved, 11 scored. Nope - 11 shots, 11 goals. That's poor
11 shots, 11 goals. That’s poor
Very, very poor. But look at the last five performances and, other than the top four + Villa flying and the bottom three performing badly, Leeds aren't doing much worse than anyone else really (most teams have two or three wins) – and actually doing better than Liverpool, Brentford, Fulham and Chelsea! There's dim hope yet. Possibly.
Had the misfortune of being at ER for the last 2 games, can’t remember the place feeling this low since we sacked Bielsa.
Pretty depressing stuff, the speed at which teams are figuring out how to beat us is equally as shocking as our lack of a reaction to that happening.
Gracia might be a nice guy but he’s too hesitant to make a change and our players are clueless at managing the game.
Only hope is we somehow miraculously buck the trend and get something out of the next 3 games or (probably more miraculously) the teams below us continue being worse.
Can’t see them getting much out of the fixtures in May, so it’s now or never and I can’t imagine there’s much morale or confidence to make it happen.
RM.
I reckon 36 points will enough to stay up.
2 wins and a draw for Leeds. Very possible.
Forest have a terrible GD as well, so that's worth a point against them.
Whats going on at Chelsea gets even more bonkers...
https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1648076367953551361?s=20
I've said it before - but I'm gutted Chelsea likely have enough points to survive this season - would love to see them relegated.
You'll just have to make do with watching them taking another shoeing off Real tonight
Didn't Todd and Tuchel fall out because he was constantly interfering and poking his nose in, including the infamous 4-4-3 formation chat.
I can't imagine there would be many decent coaches that would want to work for an owner that gets that involved with the team. Maybe Frank will soon be named as the permanent head coach as he doesn't have a problem with it.
Leeds are incredibly lucky there are currently 4 teams worse than them in the league! Not sure how much longer that'll last though... The 11 goals conceded from 11 shots on target is horrific... there HAS to be a change in goal for Fulham. Get Robles in there. Hopefully Wober will be fit enough too as I don't think I ever want to see Pascal trotting around aimlessly again.
I still think it looks like it going down to the final kick in the final minute of the final game of the season to settle the bottom 3. Whatever happens I think at least one 'Big Club' will get relegated. Everton seem to have that 'we're too big to go down' attitude that has caught out clubs like Newcastle and not that long time ago, City. Not even Dyche seems to be able to polish that particular turd
Whilst most eyes are on the PL, those of us with an interest in the lower divisions are in for a treat on the run in for League 2. Leyton Orient are all but up, but 2nd to 6th is wide open still and only separated by 3 points. As a Bradford City fan, I'm really hoping they nick one of the automatic places and I don't have to go through the pain of a play off! Come on you Bantams! 🙂
Quite a lot still to play for in League 1 as well. Have I mentioned Ipswich's goal difference lately.....
The 11 shots and 11 goals stat is mad, but Meslier wasn’t really at fault for any.
Went to the Everton match at OT last weekend.
Burnley ball, but without the players with Burnley sized balls to pull it off.
Goal kicks were funny, Pickford launching it to a bait ball sized mass of players assembled in one corner of the pitch, leaving the entire right hand side open to Wan-Bisska and Antony.
No wonder it was the game with the most first half chances this season.
It's a pity that that the largest city with one club is not more successful (69's and 70's excepted). Year before I went to university I was lucky enough to see Villa V Leeds (91/92) where Leeds won 4-1. Their midfield that day and season were brilliant.
I’m pretty comfortable with relegation now. Those players just show zero fight so I’d be happy to see the back of most of them as well as the owners. Stupid managerial decisions post-Bielsa (I don’t actually think Gracia was a bad appointment but was obviously not anywhere near their radar for weeks and seemed very much an “appoint anyone” thing) and some awful recruitment (£35m for Rutter who barely looks league two standard, Aaronson who contributes a grand total of nothing etc).
Think thats me done with them for this season – it sucks up too much of my time when I could be doing enjoyable stuff like riding my bike on Saturday afternoons…
Same for me really, I refuse to become as invested as I was last season as I let the situation affect my mood in the last few weeks of last season and I can't imagine I was much fun to live with. That's not me at all so I'm not going to worry about relegation.
Ultimately if Wober can get and stay fit we will probably be okay as he organises all the terrible defenders that we have collected and we've got goals in us unlike Everton + others. Reckon Southampton are gone, Forest not far from due to fixtures so one place to fight for. Either way, I'll be out on my bike.
Quite a lot still to play for in League 1 as well. Have I mentioned Ipswich’s goal difference lately…..
Wednesday (Pigs to me) went 23 games unbeaten and were top with a couple of games in hand 2-3 weeks ago. Lost/drew a few and dragged back down to 3rd.
Definitely a lot to play for. Hopefully Derby keep them out of the automatics last game of the season with a McGoldrick (Blades legend) hat trick and either Derby or the Dingles knock them out of the playoffs, we get promoted and there's a lovely 2 division gap 😊
You’ll just have to make do with watching them taking another shoeing off Real tonight
But Frank has said that 'magic can happen' at Stamford Bridge!
69’s and 70’s excepted
But Frank has said that ‘magic can happen’ at Stamford Bridge!
So they appointed Graham Potter thinking he was Harry Potter?
I wonder if they’ll actually play a 4-4-3 tonight, after Frank is given his orders from the boss? 😂
If they’re losing at half time, Todd might go out and spend quarter of a billion on new players to see if that sorts it out
They could play all night and not score. Real schooling an English team yet again.
Boing Boing!
It looks like Todd Boehly is trying to replicate the Glazers ownership of United but attempting to cram it into a 12 month timeline 😂
At least Chelsea were in consistent form against Real losing both games by 2.
Did the Chelsea board during their trolley dash not realise they needed a striker.
They’ve got a striker, despite constantly moaning that they haven’t. They paid 97 million for him. He’s presently out on loan at Inter
Nobody seems to ever mention that
Oh… that 97 million we spent on a striker we then sent out on loan?
I suppose that with all the other players you paid nearly a hundred million for you must just lose track?
Seriously… they’re making the United owners look like consomethinge professionals and shrewd operators in the transfer market this season. Everyone saw Todd big balls coming and whacked 40 million on the asking price for any player
It looks like Todd Boehly is trying to replicate the Glazers ownership of United but attempting to cram it into a 12 month timeline
To be fair, at least he knows how to get to the home teams dressing room, I think if the Glazers wanted to talk to the team, they would b e found days later wandering round a large out of town shopping mall looking dazed and confused.
True. I doubt they could find OT on a map. They'd probably end up somewhere in mid Wales
Just looking at the recent Chelsea results.... they've scored once in the last 6 games 🤣
https://twitter.com/UtdEra_/status/1648444813820432385?s=20
Oh… that 97 million we spent on a striker we then sent out on loan?
97m they spent on a striker that they'd sold previously for 28m? Its not as if they have previous for selling players who turn out to be quite good (and in some cases, linked with bringing them back). As a Leeds fan, Chelsea do cheer me up a bit...
New badges for City and United?
They’ve got a striker, despite constantly moaning that they haven’t. They paid 97 million for him. He’s presently out on loan at Inter
The weirdest bit is that the way the team is setup now would suit Lukaku down to the ground, being the focal point in the box with so many wide players, playmakers and runners around him.
Awful ref, gave a penalty for being in possession of an arm.
