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[Closed] So why is there no such thing as red petrol?

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Leave aside the debate as to whether or ot it's right to give farmers a massive tax break not available to most other industries, the theory behind red diesel is that duty is not paid on fuel not (mainly) used on the roads.
A lot of petrol is not used on the roads, lawnmowers, cement mixers etc, the question occured to me while using some as a solvent.
A logging compnay for example would pay duty on the fuel for the chainsaw but not the tractor.
why?


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:22 pm
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Have you seen how much fuel a tractor uses? You could run a chainsaw for life on what something like a combine harvester uses in a day.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:25 pm
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Maybe, but if you run a big landscape gardening business you will have a lot of big mowers. And hedgecutters. And strimmers. Etc.
I agree it will be less per unit, but it must be a big total for a large company.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:32 pm
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tax break for farmers LOL - they are soo rolling in it.

My guess is it's to make food cheap.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:35 pm
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Red Diesel isn't just used by farmers, but is also used in construction and maritime transport (where there is little to no need for petrol)!


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:38 pm
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Large mowers such as Ransome triple mowers and mini tractors are diesel so they could use red.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:41 pm
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From wikipedia:

[i]Red diesel can also be used in road vehicles which are registered as SORN with the DVLA provided they are only used on private land.[/i]

I never knew that.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:41 pm
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Adding to mikewsmith's point, a tractor or harvester could easily be using 30 litres per hour. A big (big!) tractor can use 90+ litres per hour.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:44 pm
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😯


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:48 pm
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The requirements for storing petrol is great than for storing diesel so for one, you would not have a large amount of petrol in a tank in your yard.

Also as cynic-al says farming must produce cheap food. Without cheap food consumerist economies like ours would collapse.


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:53 pm
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Remember when it used to say "DERV" on garage forecourts?
As in Diesel engined road-going vehicles. Not seen that for years
When I were a lad my dad had a gert big tank of red diesel on the farm.
Good question re red petrol. There ought to be an equivalent really.
Edit: ah yes storage. Diesel a lot safer


 
Posted : 18/11/2012 9:58 pm
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I guess it's just demand way back when it all started... inboard engine commercial boats and tractors use diesel.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 8:20 am
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Where I work we're using about 13,500 litres of red a Day! 😯

and that's after some fairly significant fuel saving initiatives over recent years and we're not busy at all at the moment 🙁

Petrol just wouldn't be efficient for most types of heavy machinery


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 9:20 am
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You can make a fuel duty reclaim though for use of unleaded if you use it for a qualifying purpose. Not that difficult to make an annual claim.


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 9:28 am
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As said above - you need a licence to store petrol in bulk


 
Posted : 19/11/2012 9:46 am