I was introduced by a friend to someone whom the friend thought would be appropriate possible member of staff where I work.
At our initial meeting, I enjoyed a good conversation with this person, and really thought they would be quite good on the job. Consequently, I called the person in (making it very clear on both occasions that there was absolutely NOTHING on offer at the time, but that I wanted him/her to get to know the place - and for us to get to know him/her - should anything open up), at which point I introduced him/her to the boss and the vice-boss.
In any case, something did open up just recently, and I let the person know so that s/he could apply if s/he wanted. And so s/he did.
On paper, s/he was as good as I'd hoped, and so shortlisting was easy. I simply selected the best four applications that came through, and his/hers was included.
Alas, after an interview that included a presentation, this person did not get the job. On the day, there was a candidate that simply seemed to understand what we needed, and made it clear that s/he would be able to do the job well.
Consequently today, my HR department has received an email that included a legal threat, and I have received a text to my work phone, declaring me persona non grata and essentially calling me dishonourable and a liar.
I have never sought to mislead anyone. We have only done with this person what we have ever done with any good potential candidate that came to our attention outside of a period when we had openings - that is, had them in for conversation, and kept them on the radar for a time when a relevant opening might emerge.
Now I feel like I'm going to have double-check my door locks every night before I go to bed.
WTF?!?
I'd be happy in your case that you've dodged a bullet...
People's sense of entitlement seems to be growing by the year.
Reply to the text saying it's disappointing they feel this way, as the person who you offered the job has pulled out and they were second in line. 🙂
Nobody grows up wanting to be a dick but many , many people manage it anyway.
Forget about it and move on.
You've played with a straight bat all the way through and can go to bed and sleep the sleep of the righteous.
Anything else is their problem and not yours and you've probably dodged a bullet by not employing them. Result!
You know how sometimes on here people respond to posts as if they haven't actually read what was written? It's like that in meatspace as well.
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Eeeeeeeew! 🙁
I take it she was fit?
I’ve heard of people who have, on not getting jobs, invoiced the company they were interviewing for, for their time and travel expenses. So you’ve saved some money there at least.
what were they threatening, out of interest?
Have all STW posts to be gender neutral now?
Have all STW posts to be gender neutral now?
You bet your bollocks / ovaries they do.
A double-gender neutral person would have been great for government criteria though.
Seriously though, it sounds like you were right not to employ them!
Have all STW posts to be gender neutral now?
No, of course not. I just wanted to be very, very sure this was as anonymised as possible.
Have all STW posts to be gender neutral now?
I assume OP is obfuscating any links between him and this person. Confidentiality etc
Back to the issue, it's hard to say either way as we only have one side.
Back to the issue, it’s hard to say either way as we only have one side.
This we only have OPs story so can't see if he/she is telling us everything, he/she may be forgetting something or he/she might not be telling get the truth.
Just say they it makes is a lot easier.
I'm intrigued as to how having someone in for a job interview ends up in having a legal threat sent to HR. Did you play hide the sausage / kebab*?
*delete as applicable to their gender.
Some people are just like that, especially as they get older and even when it is completely obvious they are in the wrong. Legal threats are almost always just threats and in any case most workplaces are well used to this nonsense. Consider it a bullet well dodged
I’m assuming the interview went similar to this one...
OP - Are you sure you didn't imply that, after they'd been in there getting shown around and meeting the bosses, they were a shoe in for the job?? Because if you didn't make it clear they may have been thinking the job was theirs.
Doesn't make the reaction right but I could see how they could they might have been confident of getting the job.
I assume that the person in question thought that they'd been led to believe the job was theirs.
I've been pretty confident of getting jobs before only to not get them. Half the time it's cos the role gets withdrawn suddenly.
Has this person worked in local authority?
It's quite common there to be given a job but not actually get it until they've interviewed enough people to then turn them all down.
I assume that the person in question thought that they’d been led to believe the job was theirs.
Which isn't wholly unreasonable after being brought in to see the place and meet people. That's a very odd course of action IMO.
Clearly they're a mentalist, and you've dodged a bullet, but why would you bring people in "to get to know the place" if you then have someone who doesn't "know the place" who's a better hire? Why would you waste everyone's time like that? 😕
anonymised
I don't mind folk being anonymous. As long as they do it in their own homw.
.....but why would you bring people in “to get to know the place”
OP likes to play mind games with the little people. 🙃
I'm sure Louise will get another job soon enough. As others have said, you have dodged a bullet. If HR are on your side then let them deal with it.
Which isn’t wholly unreasonable after being brought in to see the place and meet people. That’s a very odd course of action IMO.
Is it? Why I started my job after a look around to get the feel of the place and the employer. It's pretty common.
I think I'd expect that as a pre-cursor to getting a job - ie something which is further down the line than "you're actually no better than any of these other applicants who we've not introduced to anyone, but thanks for taking the time anyway".
Certainly that's the context I've had it in previously, if I'd been shown around and introduced to the "boss" and all that shit and then not recruited I'd probably be a bit irked. I'd not threaten legal action though. But then there are three sides to every story, and clearly we've only got one.
I'd certainly not want to work somewhere that wasted my time like that.
Sounds nearly as bad as when I was actually offered a job after interview & then told two weeks later (after my stress levels due to my old job had died down to around zero) that they'd decided not to bother having the position I'd been offered anymore.
Or like a person at the same place who'd been standing in as a senior officer for six months absolutely faultlessly, only to be told two days before she was due to be totally in charge of the jail on a set of nights (for the second time) that she hadn't even got an interview for the permanent job.
But that's the prison service all over.
Sounds nearly as bad as when I was actually offered a job after interview & then told two weeks later (after my stress levels due to my old job had died down to around zero) that they’d decided not to bother having the position I’d been offered anymore.
Yep, I've been offered a job and then had the offer rescinded as the role was being eliminated, effectively being made redundant before you've walked in the door! That was private sector, don't think it's unique to the public sector!
I hope this person never goes through a multi stage interview process. They may be in for more disappointment, not to mention expensive legal fees...
Being shown round gives you an advantage against others, it doesn’t guarantee the job is yours
Don’t infer by any means that person (a) will receive preferential treatment when applying for a role. In this instance inviting them in even before a role was released could be seen as preferential treatment and deemed unfair to other candidates.
It’s a tough job market out there, you’ve got someone’s hopes up and rightly they’re disappointed.
Ignore mail and text, don’t delete any just pass it to HR who in due course will call you in (and your boss no doubt) for a full and frank conversation about hiring policies and protocols.
In the meantime you’ll need to move home, reschool your kids, get your pets rehomed and buy a different car/colour of car, find another pub to drink in.
HTHs
What an astonishingly high effort attempt at such a low effort concept
edit - the video as this site doesn't seem to make that apparent
Sounds like he/she/they should seek medical rather than legal advice.
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Just double checking that I definitely, 100% haven’t got the job then?
😜🔥🔥
Can someone use their 5th login to play the side of ‘shim’? Would get a better balance on things
Did you sleep with her?
If so, then no wonder she thought she was going to get the job... if not - then you should have done it while you still had the chance
years ago it would all be binned and forgotten, not now,sadly,everything is made into a mountain from a molehill.
Now it will involve a payment to the non specific sex/ person .
and somewhere in a parallel world they are putting their story forward as the upset person
In my experience it’s quite common for folks looking for a job to go and have an informal meeting, a look round, and a chance to talk to a few people. I’ve done it myself, but understood that wasn’t a guaranteed job offer.
Reading the initial post I think that maybe you took the getting to know each other thing a bit far before jumping into bed with someone else. I'd be a bit narked but the legal threats are going a bit far. I think they probably dodged a bullet as much as you/your company did. No-one comes out of it well.