[Closed] So Germany next....

It's not a great German team. I fancy us to be honest.

HHHHHHMMMMmmmmmmmmm!!!!! 5-1 Even Heskey Scored, 5-1 Even Heskey Scored, 5-1 Even Heskey Scored,
5-1 Even Heskey Scored..

they play a bit of a slow game and lack penetration, they seem to rely on raspers from outside the box, hopefully if we play a 'premiership' game we should be able to run rings round them

was flicking between channels and australia suddenly had 2 goals!
Germany for us though - neither team has looked particularly strong so who knows . . .

After watching the Ghana match, I am not that worried. I think we will have a tougher game against Argentina, assuming they get through. Obviously plenty could go wrong in the Germany game tho.

It'll be a perfect warm up match for Argentina, Spain and then Brazil in the final!

It's all about character and and building on todays performance now for me. The team didn't go back on JT's or the managers words today - they gave us what we wanted to see, and more importatly did the job!

Same attitude, same grit this Sunday, we're in the quarters......

Naaaa, piece of cake those Germans. 5:1 again, we'll be singing: "Even Rooney scores!".

TBH without stating the bleeding obvious, it was always on the cards that it would be Germany

5-1 was a while ago...

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2 world wars and 1 world cup .This will still be the chant after they beat us

2 world wars and 1 world cup .This will still be the chant after they beat us

What's it going to be when we beat them then [s]Edric 64[/s] Beckenbauer?

I hope we do .I'm just being a pessimist that way things can only get better

Christ you lot have some confidence! I'm looking forward to it but well be lucky to get past germany and beating argentina NO.

Start the PDS route at 8pm on Sunday, in the Irish Bar at 3pm I guess!

Not down to penalties again this time

It's all falling into place now, just entering phase 3.
[url= http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3ccc82d0-7e12-11df-8478-00144feabdc0.html ]England's timeworn....[/url] 😉

Christ you lot have some confidence! I'm looking forward to it but well be lucky to get past germany and beating argentina NO.

Confidence & faith......we've got to believe, without belief we'd have bowed out today and we'd all be talking about "what if's"!

[i][b]Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen![/b][/i] 8)

We can do it.....

Can't help thinking you're ****ed to be honest. If not by Germany, then Argentina...two countries that England consider their biggest rivals. Funnily enough, playing England matters little to either side.

It's all falling into place now, just entering phase 3.

That's not really a clever article imo - just sums up this world cup (so far) and everything after that is boring pub parade presumptuous content.

Forget that b****cks.....

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In 72 years Germany have failed only once to reach the quarter finals - good luck England!

In 72 years Germany have failed only once to reach the quarter finals - good luck England!

In 72 years Germany have failed only once to reach the quarter finals

You've been listening to commentators too much - get your own opinion.

Nah - saw it on the news at ten - my opinion is that this lot will shit the bed too...

Newsreaders - Commentators - they're all the same, get your own opinion..... 😆

In 72 years Germany have failed only once to reach the quarter finals

That's not an opinion - that's a fact...

That's not an opinion - that's a fact...

Good point......get your own facts.....!

That's blocks darcy tbh. Germany will fear us

blocks

Germany won't take England for granted but they don't "fear" England. They "fear" Holland and all the other standard "teams worth fearing". From what I hear, England is just another team they nearly always beat in competition. 🙁

I meant bollocks .. silly predictive testing!. What major tournaments have Holland won recently? I think they would have preferred the usa, Italy are struggling, swiss beat Spain and tonight result will get the bit between the teeth.

We'll be fine. Going to have to record it though and try and avoid the score til I get home. At least cwm carn may be quiet!
Fancy us against the Germans though.

[i]they play a bit of a slow game and lack penetration, they seem to rely on raspers from outside the box,[/i]

Yeah, that's my wife's major complaint too.

In that Holland are their biggest rivals...the team by whom they least want to be beaten. That's their derby game. Over the next few days, the tabloids will whip the nation into an embarrassing xenophobic foaming at the mouth at the prospect of playing Germany. The fans [i]will[/i] sing TWWAOWC at the Germans.

In the meantime the Germans will just get on with things.

This World Cup is like WW2, The French jacked early without trying, The Yanks came in at the end and we were left to scrap the Boxheads alone. Who said history does not repeat itself.

deadlydarcy - Member
Can't help thinking you're ****ed to be honest. If not by Germany, then Argentina...two countries that England consider their biggest rivals. Funnily enough, playing England matters little to either side.

That's bollocks, Argentina would love to beat us. Sure, historically we may not be their most dangerous opponent, but the rivalry is entirely mutual.

Germany have impressed me with their play so far, but haven't really delivered the goods. 4-0 against a poor Australia, only achieved once Cahill had been sent off (2-0 at the time and Aus coming back into it)

Beaten by Serbia

1-0 vs Ghana, who had umpteen chances themselves.

We meanwhile have still to really deliver, although in patches it was starting to click yesterday.

OK, they're a young team without fear but we have experience in the pressure of these games / Chapions league - I think it'll be close but I'd like to think we shade it overall.

Depends which team turns up sunday afternoon......

By the law of averages its about time we beat them
Two very ordinary sides waiting to be shown how to play footie by the argies in the next round.

Looking at our central defence yesterday its frightening to think what Messi and co could do to it.
Pass it round for ages, couple of decisive passes or penetrating runs and game over

Rather this draw than Ghana TBH.

We might as well do it the good'n'proper way (Germans, Argies, spicks then Brazil).

Its in the bag!! 😈

We might as well do it the good'n'proper way (Germans, Argies, spicks then Brazil).

....and this is the bit of football that makes me angry.

Angry! Cricket must make you seethe what with all the Poms and Aussie stuff.

Whos_Daddy - Member
...spicks...

Lovely. I like seeing England do well but sentiments like that drain any sympathy I have when it all goes wrong as it inevitably will. 🙁

Not really much left to debate imo now, we're through to the second round, job done. We've got ze' germans next. Sunday roast cancelled, burgers, bbq's, and a few beers at the ready, lets enjoy it!

Angry! Cricket must make you seethe what with all the Poms and Aussie stuff.

Livid mate 😉

You have to admit in the cricket it is lighthearted, whereas in football it is a bit more than that.

Meh...maybe i am just a limp wristed lefty Guardian reading liberal.

...a limp wristed...

Didn't your climbing date help with that? 😉

It just clicked that your not English Darcy.. which would explain your comments. With a name like Darcy maybe Irish? Which would definitely explain things! 😉

Shame to see France offer nowt after cheating you out of a place at the finals. 🙁

deadlydarcy:

Didn't your climbing date help with that?

Not to bring our domestic back onto the forums Darcy, but let it go. You had your chance.

This is one match that I am going to watch.

This is one match that I am going to watch.

YEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAA! 😆

...but let it go....You had your chance.

Shame to see France offer nowt after cheating you out of a place at the finals.

Ouch, that hurt, you sharp witted guy.

I absolutely love football and can't wait for Sunday. Last night's media was reasonably reflective on the day's play with a certain amount of relish about playing Germany but today - here we go - media frenzy / tabloid style / commentary replay / good times, bad times bollocks / everyone's an expert for 4 solid days.

I'm going out on my bike until Sunday.

Darcy, you should notice the 🙁 after it which was intended to show a genuine sadness at this fact. I would have preferred to see Ireland in the WC than France based on the fact they deserved to be their and France cheated.

But hey, everyone is against you Darcy! Go back to making your tin foil hat to stop them getting to your thoughts.. 😯

Love the way the English media build up England vs Germany matches as some sort of super clash of teams of similar standing, rather like Bolton bigging up their matches against ManUre.

Yeah that's me...perpetual victim. Hell, I even thought for a while that France getting through was part of a big FIFA conspiracy. Luckily guys like you see right through the likes of eejits like me eh? 🙄

Everyone's always against me, not just football fans with prejudice and unrealistic expectations.

and we were left to scrap the Boxheads alone

And we know what happened when we tried that eh (know your history).

Btw, what's actually wrong with the term spick? I thought it was short for Hispanic?

Lol - that FT article is by a guy who wrote a book called 'Why England Lose'. Hahaha.. what a bloody cheerful title.. I'll be rushing down Waterstones for that one NOT.

Love the way the English media build up England vs Germany matches as some sort of super clash of teams of similar standing, rather like Bolton bigging up their matches against ManUre.

From wiki (whatever that means)
[i]Of the 27 games played against Germany, England have won 12, while Germany have won 10[/i]

[i]Fifa rankings 2010: Germany 6, England 8[/i]

Not many wins recently, though

From wiki (whatever that means)
Of the 27 games played against Germany, England have won 12, while Germany have won 10

Fifa rankings 2010: Germany 6, England 8

At the sharp end however -

Germany - World Cup Appearances - 17, Champions 3, Runners Up 4.

Germany - Euro Champs Appearences - 10, Champions 3, Runners Up 3

Can't be bothered to count losing semi-finals appearances

England - World Cup Appearances - 13, Champions 1, Runners Up 0.

England- Euro Champs Appearences - 7, Champions 0, Runners Up 1.

Luckily guys like you see right through the likes of eejits like me eh?

Paranoia? Couldn't give a stuff really, but do try to read and understand posts rather than just assuming the world is against you. I am sure you are not an idiot, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. 😉

Enough of a stuff to reply. You're far too clever for the likes of me maxray. Your posts display subtlety I can only dream of achieving. Things like...

That's bollocks

Interestingly, why would being Irish

explain things

Bimbler - Have England ever made it to a Euro final? I may have forgotten but can't recollect an appearance.

Was in France last week and enjoyed watching Mexico beat France in a French bar. Proudly wore my Irsh cycling jersey a couple of days as well.....

I think this is the perfect game for us. If we win we'll be perfectly set for a decent attempt at the competition itself. Possibly scraping through against Ghana wouldn't really help us at all. I think the Germans are an attractive side to watch but they're young and inexperienced and they'll be missing Sweinsteiger. This is a game we can win, without any doubt.

Is schweinsteiger definitely out?

Darcy it would explain why you were negative of England's chances to win and your perception that neither Argentina or Germany would fear playing us.

I have never alluded to being subtle nor clever, as you do not know me I would suggest not trying to judge that based on 2 or three posts on a thread. 🙂

Bimbler - Have England ever made it to a Euro final? I may have forgotten but can't recollect an appearance.

D'oh! Sorry got mixed up, they made the semis in 96

D'oh! Sorry got mixed up, they made the semis in 96

No. During extra time Gazza slid in at the far post, just made contact with the ball, tapped it in. Germany went out and we made the final. That's how I remember it 🙂

Funnily enough, playing England matters little to either side

You've been watching too much QI. England is a huge game for Argentina. England is a huge game for most of the world.

You've been watching too much QI

No, not lately, just listening to some rational Germans on the radio.

England is a huge game for most of the world.

Oh I see...for whom is it not massive game then?

Darcy it would explain why you were negative of England's chances to win and your perception that neither Argentina or Germany would fear playing us.

And why would my being Irish explain that maxray? I know you're clever and all that, but that didn't explain anything.

Oh I see...for whom is it not massive game then?

No one.

I know it hurts but England is one of the big names in world football regardless of how crap we might or might not be. Would that Norwegian commentator reel out a long list of famous Irishmen if Norway gave their boys a hell of a beating ? No, in fact, back in 1981, they probably wouldn't even have televised the game. Because of our perceived status as the birthplace of the game and because of our Imperial background there are few countries in the world that don't relish a game against us.

But hey you know all this.

Hope that helps.

But hey you know all this.

I don't. Why are you bringing nationality into it?

Hope that helps.

🙄

I don't.

Then you don't appear to know much about the world game then.

Why are you bringing nationality into it?

Because we're talking about national football teams.

Hope that helps.

Then you don't appear to know much about the world game then.

Nor do you...we're obviously as ignorant as one another here. You see, you and lots of other blinkered England fans are convinced that the whole world sees [i]the[/i] game against England as the big one. When in fact, this is not true...not in footballing terms anyway...that's the sport in question isn't it? Argentina would prefer to be beaten by England than Brazil/Chile/Uruguay (some of their neighbours...hope that helps). For Germany, it's Holland. You're kidding yourself if you think that England is the big game for any of those nations.

Historically, they probably like getting one over on England, but they're pretty bored of that now.

Because we're talking about national football teams.

You haven't answered the question, but hey ho, you know that.

Hope that helps.

I'm thinking there's little there for you to impart to help me. But feel free to keep trying. It's kinda fun reading.

You see, you and lots of other blinkered England fans.................

Nice stereotyping, I thought we were supposed to have the xenophobic opinions according to your earlier post.

.................are convinced that the whole world sees the game against England as the big one

No they see it as A big one not THE big one.

You haven't answered the question,

Yes I did, you're just being selective about reading the answers.

I hope there's help for you.

deadlydarcy - Member

Is schweinsteiger definitely out?