As you can see the site has been updated. Have a look round. Have a look at your user profile area. The Classifieds have been split into two - For Sale and Wanted.
Please post any technical problems here. That is things not working, clearly not lined up properly, etc.
Also state which web browser you are using. (if you're not sure visit www.whatbrowser.org first).
The 'wanted' section doesn't work for me - whether that's because there aren't any posts yet I don't know. Clicking the button just gets me what looks to be a view across all forums (ie same as when I click the topmost banner 'forum' button.
Oh, and from a UI point of view some of the buttons aren't consistent but that's nit-picking - Edit Post and Preview Post for example. I'm guessing one is a button, styled, the other a link, styled to look like a button. That'd be a theme issue rather than a technical one though...
(Firefox 3.6.8)
Yes, forums->wanted (on the menu bar) doesn't work. Clicking on Classifieds - Wanted from the list of forums does work.
I like the new look.
Looks fresh.
Getting some double/split drop down box interference when I hover cursor over log-in/profile name tab on Safari. In fact, the drop down box is still there now! The page scrolls visibly behind the log-in bar which is visually a bit distracting.
Looks good on iPhone!
Rachel
Very nice, good work chaps.
+1 for the wanted button taking you to the main forum page! Other than that all good!
Looking good on my iPhone on the train so far. Will have more of a nose round when in the office on evil ie
Tarty - I like it. Even the sticky login bar.
However from my experience most people resist change.
The page scrolls visibly behind the log-in bar which is visually a bit distracting.
I think that's intentional - I agree it's a little distracting - I didn't realise it was 'sticky' until I'd noticed that it was overlapping and looking a little odd when you've scrolled down the page a little. Looks better when you're at the top but less so if you're half-way down a thread and it's over some text. Bit of a jumble.
Change?!?!?
*runs*
Is their a PM function yet? 😉
Option to choose themes would be nice as not a fan of the current diamond bg.
wanted button also takes to main forum page
Really not keen on the black background either side - seems to jar against the freshness and openness of the rest of the site. Makes the site feel 'hemmed-in' especially on my big monitor.
Overall though I like it!
Hi guys
I really don't want this to be seen as a grand criticism, but I am struggling to read the blue text on a white background. I don't know if it is just me getting old, but the colour scheme really isn't working for me.
like the new look!
on my screen the little buttons above where i'm typing now (bold, italic, "quote" etc...) are massive and each one is stretched so it's the same width as the main column
i'm using IE7 on XP (ducks tomatoes from firefox users)
To be fran k I think the colour scheme is goppin'. Looks all washed out and cheap. Sorry.
Holy Huge Login Screen, Batman!
Doesn't look bad on Chrome/Ubuntu, and works fine on my Nexus One/Android 2.2.
Edit: not sure about the design, though - the rounded buttons look cheap, and there seems to be a bit of mix between rounded and square. Add in the technicolour Ragly ad, the ST Premier ad, and you've got a real colour mishmash going on...
Love it 😉
on my screen the little buttons above where i'm typing now (bold, italic, "quote" etc...) are massive and each one is stretched so it's the same width as the main column
Same here on my works PC with IE7.
Like the new look tho!
Really like the new design.
Did notice a lot more advertising, do you remove that if you become a premier user?
Also I personally don't like the way the dark background builds in chrome. Makes reading page after page in the forum a bit of strain on the old eyes. Any chance you can get a white strip in the background while the page loads?
EDIT: Also like the ASCII art when you view source ... nice touch 🙂
I'm liking it.. good work guys.
It is funny because the "old guard" don't like change here but they always seem to manage in the end.
Nice to see you trying to devlop the web offering.
After a bit of consideration I am not sure if I am a complete fan of the "revolutionized" new face of stw.
Few tweaks should see it alright tho. As mentioned previously, a light and dark theme option would be awesome-sauce.
Bloody hell that's a bit of a shocker this morning, I like it 🙂
+ 1 for the black background being too stark on a larger monitor
Looks great on the iPhone. I like the delayed loading of images in a thread. Smart and will hopefully save me some mobile data. 🙂
BTW you forgot to fix the "up to15" spacing 🙂
Tom - that .png file of Matt and the Bike Bag man on the homepage is a bit big and takes ages to load. You can easily zap it down to a 96k .jpg as opposed to it's current 430kb size.
Or am I missing something?
Tom, how bout a consolidated view of the classifieds, as there is for the bike/chat ones.
I'm sure a lot of stuff that gets sent in response to wanteds isn't because people are looking to sell, but becasue they stumble across an ad, and think 'I've got one of those, don't use it et etc'. Far fewer people browse the wanteds than the for sales, imo.
Black blackground looks even worse on my biggerer 24" glossy monitor at work. Just loads of reflections now in the black areas on the glossy screen which is very distracting.
Can we an an option to switch to a different colour scheme?
It sort of works on my IE6 at work (bang goes any chance of my career progressing), but if I should be logged out I can't see a way of logging back in and my user account / Premier stuff has gone too. Oh well.
It looks quite smart on my newer computer at home where everything works.
It's wordpress! 🙂
I get the IE7 full width buttons issue too.
I miss the "No replies since" bit on the profiles page
Latest discussions doesn't even make it onto the page when I view on my widescreen laptop at home because there's so much else above it.
@brant - you're missing something.
IE6 login at bottom of page (the menu bar position isn't supported by IE6)
Dark background issues noted. Will most likely just revert back to old white liney one. But people with large monitors, do you really browse with a maximised window?
IE7 button issues noted, though work on my test machine - will fix over the weekend.
+n on the black background issues - it kind of strobes if you roll down a topic quickly to get to the bottom too.
Other than that looks good and a worthwhile change to make 🙂
And out of interest, if you've got IE7 why not just upgrade to IE8 which is a far superior browser?
But people with large monitors, do you really browse with a maximised window?
Not maximised, but my browser window fills a good 2/3rds of the screen. This means a 50-60mm of black either side of the main forum window.
I would imagine a lot of people on IE7 are at work and can't just upgrade. That's the case for me anyhow.
It's looking fine on opera mini, not looked at it on opera 10 yet which is what I use at home
IE6 login at bottom of page (the menu bar position isn't supported by IE6)
Wahay!
But people with large monitors, do you really browse with a maximised window?
Yes, always.
The wandering grey bar at the top is a pain on Dolphin browser (Android) when scrolling/pinching to zoom/double tap to zoom, it doesnt always know what to do with itself - ends up stuck middle of the screen.
EDIT: Actually its hilarious, it ends up all over the shop.
Apart from a bit of a coding show off, what's the purpose of it? If I know that stuff is up the top, when I need it (which is not that often) I'll go and get it.
KISS
EDIT. Have just checked and there's the same problem with the native browser too.
On Chrome (On my desktop) tabbing between hyperlinks doesnt seem to highlight buttons like "Edit Post". Some of us who dont use Fisher Price Computers (aka Macs) are able to use a keyboard when navigating you know 😉 )
Looks fine to me on Chrome (version 7.0.517.41 if that makes any difference).
I like the new look & the black borders either side look like the default wallpaper on my phone.
Not really had a massive look around the site as of yet though.
Not too sure what the point/advantage of the grey bar that hovers transluscently at the top of the screen....but not a problem, just not sure what it provides.
Just had a quick look on the default browser on my HTC Desire and looks ok on there too.
stumpy can you check your desire again.
double tap and do some pinching and scrolling and see what happens to the grey floater for me please?
Looks great, a massive improvement.
I can share you browser compatibility pain! I gave up supporting IE6 a long time ago. I wish some of these companies which force their employees to use it would just realise that browsers are free and IE6 is utter rubbish!
justgoride - you should meet one of my clients. They built an entire company intranet workspace around IE6 so they're wedded to it at the cost of browsing external sites. Theyre now in the process of moving everything over to new "standards" to keep it all going 🙄
Ooh yes, that new grey background's better, much easier on the eyes 🙂
The black is gone - Ta!! 😀
Floating grey bar sticks to the top of the page on my HTC Desire's Dolphin browser (page, not screen. i.e. doesn't float). I just updated Dolphin to the newly released 4.0 last night, so might be worth trying that (if you're not already).
On the whole I'm happy enough with the changes, but dislike the blue font used for the list of topics.
Overall the only issue seems to be the blue text.
It is a very nice shade of blue, but not the easiest to read on a white background.
Another problem with the grey floaty bar Tom:
when you click on "last post" link from the main forum page the page scroll that it sends you to hides the last posters name behind the grey bar so you cant see who the last poster was without scrolling up a bit.
all in all, grey floaty thing gets nil points from me.
Looks good and works well in Opera Mobile 10.1 Beta 2 - no more massive space to the right. Not such an improvement in FF 3.6.12, a bit fresher I suppose.
Really don't care for floating bars, never really undertood their point.
One bugette in my iPhone is when switching from portrait to landscape viewing within a post causes a big black square so I can't see the First few posts anymore. If Im already in landscape and go into the post all is good.
verses - Ive just updated to v4 and same problem if you pinch to zoom and then scroll the grey bar gets stuck in the middle of the page somewhere.
hard refresh: user-bar is fixed at the top.
IE7 forum buttons, fixed?
Looks a little washed out to me but otherwise it's good - like the hover over 'last poster' bit.
Preferred classifieds all in one place but I can live with the split.
A list of the changes would be good just to make sure we don't miss anything 🙂
IE7 forum buttons fixed for me
That's very odd Stoner. For me the grey floaty bar stays at the top of the page and doesn't move. As soon as I zoom (pinch or double-tap) or scroll down I can't see it any more as it's glued to the top of the page.
Grey floaty bar - brilliant. Was always a pain scrolling back to the top to log in to reply to something. Ignore everyone else, keep it 😉
Though can it return me to where I'd scrolled to when I clicked it... not that I'm fussy or anything
hard refresh: user-bar is fixed at the top.
lovely. ta.
still no tabbed button highlights on chrome...
Was always a pain scrolling back to the top to log in to reply to something.
eh?
dont you use cookies?
Black blackground looks even worse on my biggerer 24" glossy monitor at work. Just loads of reflections now in the black areas on the glossy screen
If you surf with a maximised window on a big monitor you deserve all you get. Silly billy.
I was also going to complain about the sticky login bar but then it went, so I was then going to point out intermittent functionality in Chrome.. but then I read that you'd removed it 🙂 Good work!
The text is washed out for me tho too. Hard to read.. is it now grey or something?
verses - tom has fixed the bar to the top. maybe when you first checked was after he had made the change already.
its now fixed to the top properly in my android browsers.
Oh and I'm not sure about the 'last poster' thing on mousing over the freshness either. Do we really need to know who was the last poster? We need to know if anyone has posted (which I get from the profile screen) not who it is. Unless it's Barnes, in which case I can wait for someone else to post before clicking 😉
Looking good, much clearer now, better colour scheme. Good work.
Floaty bar no longer floats in Firefox (non-mobile).
Molgrips where do you find if anyone else has posted after you on the profile screen? I miss it
my user name on my posts seems to have changed to philw-1 yet my account & login still has me as phil.w - have i done somthing wrong?
If you surf with a maximised window on a big monitor you deserve all you get. Silly billy.
See my additional post further down! 😉
Eh? What's this black background you're talking about? Mine's white.
My only criticism is that the text and news thumbnails are all much more spread out now, which means I can't see as much without scrolling around. Not the end of the world, but not as good as it was.
Ditto the pale blue text - too washed out, make it darkerer?
Also, it clashes horribly with lime green.
its a gopping blue colour
the noddy formatting buttons are huge
IE6 🙁
IMO it is still a work in progredd and it's not because I'm opposing the change:
- too much blinking and moving content on the front page - intentional to drive people to premier?
- right side ads, search box and top ad do not line at all, why not.
- contents area too much boxed and divided, white space on the left side of Singletrack text
- News and Reviews headers are not the same height
- Magazine and web site do not share enough visual style.
Cheers!
Working great on the iPhone. Mrs deadly is doing complex graphic design type stuff on her Fisher Price machine upstairs so don't know how it looks there.
Don't pay any attention to Stoner. He's obviously not got much on his plate this morning.
[b]tomdebruin[/b] amazing work on these rapid fire fixes.
Don't suppose you can remove the #333 background colour on the body as it still gives a nasty dark background during the page build. Bet you hate having so many techies on this forum!! Sorry 🙂
It is a great improvement and clearly a lot of effort has gone in!
EDIT Looks like it has been done on some pages??
2nd EDIT: All fixed up, and looking very white 😉
My 2c... reading individual threads is much improved, nice & clear, though the forum pages don't work so well for me. Mid blue text on a white background is a bit harder on the eyes. Also, I fear the Wanted forum will be a ghost town now. Would definitely suggest a combined for sale/wanted view as per chat/bike.
Don't pay any attention to Stoner. He's obviously not got much on his plate this morning.
pffft. Im waiting on a call.
What are you doing? polishing your saw blades? Shouldn't you be out making mess and noise somewhere? 😉
I seem to have lost the capitalisation on my username.....I feel...so....informal 😥
jamie - it's communism I tell thee.
Next thing you know our names will be wiped and we'll be known by our registration number instead....
Just logged out and back in again with Stoner (capitalised "s") let's see if it remembers...
EDIT. Nope.
I'm calling the grammar police as I type...
I'm fixing the username issue now. It's because of the previous ability to have a display name different to your username. Obviously people abused that but there is still fallout from it.





