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"picky picky doing thier best to irritate and provoke". Another one for my list of "who's likely to" up there.
Another one: "keep going all night to have the last word".
Over and out. 🙂
So, that Keir Starmer eh!?
Another one: “keep going all night to have the last word”.
Self awareness isn't a strength of yours, is it?
Tell you what, seeing as a) you're incapable of doing what you say and b) will relentlessly construct a false narrative to play the victim when you're caught out, I'll be the bigger person and leave you to have the last word. Ta ta!
I dip in and out of this thread. Never really contribute, but having just seen the past couple of pages, it's pretty pathetic, this goading and point-scoring between a few regulars.
So what I am doing in this thread?
Calling everyone a racist?
Not quite. Apparently to tell us Kier Starmer is worse than the leader of the French far-right National Rally Party Marine Le Pen, who is widely considered to be a bigot and a racist.
She is goody two shoes in comparison to Starmer, we are told.
Is it really 2 years to the next G.E? FML
Yep it is that long. 2 years too long and 2 years for the tories to try and sort themselves out a bit, people to forget what a bunch of ****ers they are, be lied to etc,. etc,.
If Starmer wins it won't be by anything like the amount the current polls are suggesting.
I am not worried about the torries sorting themselves out, they are clearly showing that they have nothing to offer other than more austerity. I am worried about the damage 2 more years of turbocharged austerity is going to have on so many lives.
Yup, it’s terrifying.
One you can say about the Conservatives is that they are the masters of spin & PR. Coupled with an absolute lack of shame they have proven time and time again that they know how to win an election. This should be causing any opposition to worry. If we’ve learnt anything over the past few months, 2 year is a long time in politics and despite the last 12 years they could still pull it off & win again.
I am worried about the damage 2 more years of turbocharged austerity is going to have on so many lives.
That and how much of the remaining assets they can sell off cheap to mates/create ruinous long term contracts.
One you can say about the Conservatives is that they are the masters of spin & PR.
Yes and no. It only works so long as they are dancing to the right wing press moguls desires. Just see how quickly Cameron came unstuck when he thought he was the PR master of his legend (as opposed to a couple of years working for a friend of his mums as a break from politics) and so went for the brexit referendum.
I dip in and out of this thread. Never really contribute
You could have just left it that way. Another 'I'm too sexy for this thread' post. 🙄
Or you know, you could just post what you think about the subject. You might raise the tone from Ed's everyone but me is a racist obsession.
Prime Ministers don't tend to become more popular after two years in office. Rishi Sunak is currently enjoying his honeymoon period with voters.
When Sunak became leader Tory support was in the low twenties, with a cunning mini budget and the perceived impression of post-Johnson/Truss competence, he has managed to lift Tory support into the high twenties.
Labour support has gone from approx 50-55% when Truss was PM to approx 45-48% under Sunak.
That is absolutely catastrophic for the Tories but there is absolutely nothing they can do about the situation because every PM until the next general is hamstrung by the fact that they are Tory.
They can't get a magic wand out and simply magic away the fact that they have been in power 12 years and that the economy and the country is in crisis.
The difference that 2 years will make will be that they will have been in government for 14-15 years and the country will be in a worse crisis than it is right now.
A simple fact that is now widely accepted by Tory MPs :
I am worried about the damage 2 more years of turbocharged austerity is going to have on so many lives.
Two more years? I wasn't aware they were doing turbocharged austerity yet, let alone another two years of it. All the cuts are scheduled to occur in two years time. If Starmer and Reeves don't change their tune it'll be labour austerity you have to worry about, not the tories.
Prime Ministers don’t tend to become more popular after two years in office.
thatcher
"tend"
Edit: Thatcher was actually less popular two years into her premiership
thatcher
Thatcher was enormously unpopular until the Argies bailed her out with their ill-advised invasion. The UK had just endured the most crushing recession in history which was a deliberate result of Thatchers scorched earth economic policy. If not for the falklands, and the SDP she'd have lost the 83 election.
Yes I think a patriotic war might save Rishi Sunak's premiership.
Perhaps he can give the Spanish a green light to invade Gibraltar?
Thatcher was enormously unpopular until
events. They do happen
Yes they do. But Thatcher is not an example of a PM who got more popular in her first two years after being elected. The opposite was true.
Thatcher was enormously unpopular until the Argies bailed her out with their ill-advised invasion
Which was in large part due to her governments incompetence when cutting back on defence. They were warned it was likely to be seen as a green light but ignored it in order to save a few quid. Doubly lucky the Argies didnt wait another year or so at which point a bunch of really useful assets would have been sold off/scrapped.
She also had the advantage of all that North Sea oil and gas to use up plus giving away a bunch of housing cheap.
Since she has burned through those assets though harder for Sunak to try.
Thatcher was perhaps the luckiest PM, with Blair not far behind. Sunak is not looking very lucky at all. Starmer on the other hand looks like he could be the luckiest opposition leader in history.
Something to look forward to - two more years of pointless posts from the usual suspects until the next election.
Deep joy.
PM who got more popular in her first two years
PMs sometimes get more popular and a few months either way really isn't the issue.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/political-monitor-satisfaction-ratings-1977-1987
We don't know what's going to happen over the next two years. With Russia most obviously.
With Russia most obviously.
Wildly off-topic but I reckon we'll see a negotiated settlement once the Germans have had enough of blackouts and recession. In the probably unlikely event that happens, energy prices will take time to return to normal, if at all, and even if they do consumer prices will lag far behind. So even if Ukraine is resolved in the next two years it won't do much to help Sunak.
two more years of pointless posts from the usual suspects until the next election.
And another one. 🙄 #imtoosexyforthisthread
Wildly off-topic but I reckon we’ll see a negotiated settlement…
Should we file that with all your other frighteningly accurate predictions on the Ukraine thread?
Amazing. One one side we have people who post to tell us how the thread isn't good enough for them, on the other we have others who keep a log of what some of us post so they can use it in future to claim imaginary brownie points. 🤷♂️
Is this sort of obsessive introspection common on other internet forums?
Seems we also have people who think what they say is important enough to be logged. Ffs, get over yourself. I just tend to recall the more ridiculous statements people make. Perhaps that’s why your stuff stood out. I dunno…
On a vague attempt to keep this on track. Sounds like Starmer utterly roasted Sunak at PMQs today and he is beginning to get some themes to stick.
Perhaps that’s why your stuff stood out.
Or maybe it's because you only ever post on these threads to have a go at me for some bizarre reason? It's literally your only contribution. Bit weird having an internet stalker.
Sounds like Starmer utterly roasted Sunak at PMQs today and he is beginning to get some themes to stick.
Sunak’s only tactic now seems to be use the line “union paymasters”… I think he needs to be careful drawing attention to how the two big parties are funded.
Oh, there was a bit of the classic “Labour wanted to close the schools”… ignoring that his government “closed” the schools, and kept most pupils at home for far longer due to acting late during a public health crisis. Oh, worth noting that the fee paying schools at the heart of this VAT rebate issue were “closed” sooner with pupils at home in the way and at the time Labour were calling for that measure in state schools.
I think he needs to be careful drawing attention to how the two big parties are funded.
It is a somewhat risky area especially given the return on investment some tory funders get. Its a shame Starmer isnt counterattacking but then Labour funding has shifted somewhat.
PMQs - two suits just slogging it out with nothing to say of any consequence.
That's how it sounded to me.
Sunak is woefully incomplete. Like a really unconvincing actor.
The most invisible PM ever.
The VAT thing really does want sorting out - as a supplier to a local independent school I pay their vat on my work because they get an exemption not to pay it. I'm flat rate and can't claim it back.
Terrible system.
Too many Teslas in the car park the days. Bit of VAT won't scare them off.
two suits just slogging it out
Don’t they have to wear collar and tie? Do they have a choice not to wear a suit? Can any man take to the dispatch box in a T-shirt and jeans?
Terrible system.
Ageed. Removing it is a Labour policy that Sunak didn’t even attempt to counter today. Just babbled on about something else. The current position is indefensible really.
Don’t they have to wear collar and tie? Do they have a choice not to wear a suit? Can any man take to the dispatch box in a T-shirt and jeans?
Not the literal wearing of a suit but when we use the term suit to mean by the book/establishment type/administrator etc.
we use the term suit to mean by the book/establishment type/administrator etc.
... whereas we want our PMs to be generally wild and crazy? Tried that with the last couple
What this thread needs is a film of Angela Rayner doing a DJ set playing cheesy 90’s house music
https://twitter.com/angelarayner/status/1598966575566036992?s=46&t=3452oQkvnkazxaLmR7rogA
You’ve got to love her! 😃
Did Manchester win?
[ oh, if you didn’t know, this was a tag team DJ battle between Manchester and Liverpool, raising money for the Beds for Christmas effort … I only know about it because of Rowetta doing her bit promoting it like hell on Twitter … I’ve donated … get on it ]
^ Jesus, the shit being posted on Twitter about her attending a CHARITY event! Ffs!
The abuse aimed at Angela Rayner is just pure out-and-out snobbery and says an awful lot more about the people dishing it out than it does about her
Snobbery for sure mixed in with misogyny and just plain nastiness.
One guy calling her a "slapper" for daring the dance at a charity event.
What a "man".
whereas we want our PMs to be generally wild and crazy? Tried that with the last couple
It doesn't have to swing to the extreme you know someone with a little conviction and doesnt mislead might be the direction we're looking for.
The abuse aimed at Angela Rayner is just pure out-and-out snobbery and says an awful lot more about the people dishing it out than it does about her
You've built a STW career out of attacking certain politicians on a personal level many times.
A STW career?
Can I put that on my CV? 😂