But it only takes one joint to be stoned. One pint and you would be within limits.
It's illegal to be driving under the influence, be it one joint or many pints.
iolo - MemberWhat if you decided to get completely stoned one Sunday afternoon on a mate's house as it was legal.
On the drive home you kill a cyclist in an accident as we all know you're reactions are severely impaired.
Do you still think it should be legalized?
Sleeping is legal, what if someone decides they should sleep while driving!
BAN SLEEPING.
But it only takes one joint to be stoned. One pint and you would be within limits.
What about a pint of vodka/whisky/wine?
What if you decided to get completely stoned one Sunday afternoon on a mate's house as it was legal.
On the drive home you kill a cyclist in an accident as we all know you're reactions are severely impaired.
Do you still think it should be legalized?
Have I just stumbled into a 'worst debating skills' competition or something?
still pissed after last night is my guess 😉
But it only takes one joint to be stoned. One pint and you would be within limits
But still have alcohol in your blood stream, that you can feel, so "pissed".
I think, like alcohol, we would set a threshold at which your performance is so impaired you can longer drive.
Crazy thought eh
By the way it's smoked openly on the park over by us I thought it was legal anyway. 😕
RE the driving issue - AFAIK it's not easy to get a quick reading of the chemical's levels in the person. Doesn't it require a blood test?
Actually I seem to remember* that as there is no level set for the amount of THCetc that is allowed in the blood during driving there's a good chance you wouldn't be prosecuted if you were observed smoking a spliff and then trying to drive - assuming you don't have more on you [another matter] and don't appear to be intoxicated when questioned.
I've never been busted and don't drive - so I don't know.
*Don't get used to it.
I think currently if any THC is registered in the system it's a ban as you have an illegal substance in your body, or something like that. That's what they said on the speed awareness course thing anyway.
a ban as you have an illegal substance in your body,
Very much doubt that.
[u]Reasons[/u]
1) I am innocently in a place where its being smoked I receive secondary smoke.
2) I am given something with it in, cake for example, I innocently eat it without being aware of what it is.
3) etc etc etc
As with alcohol there has to be a level at which it is deemed to be a significant intoxicant.
Just to clear it up I think driving under the influence of anything is a no-no. Riding around the woods with headphones and bag full of Mars Bars OTOH....
The strengths now of skunk is vastly more powerful than was previously available
and where did you get this info, The Sun Newspaper? Ha
Skunk is just one of hundreds of different strains of cannabis and is actually quite rare to come across as most young uns want to smoke the more exotic strains.
P.s skunk was created in the late 70s/early 80s by crossing other strains and is no more stronger than certain land race strains (weed that grows naturally but has been harvested specificly for smoking/eating)
The creation of a highly taxed market will lead to criminality as OCGs muscle in to tax evasion, eg iir there was a major spike in organised crime in Kent back in the early 90's as gangs moved into smuggling hand rolling from belgium and even now OCGs still get involved in bootlegging as it's easy money on a risk reward basis. It's criminal diversification - if there's a market they move in.
That's a fair point - I agree that legalization of cannabis wouldn't remove OCGs entirely from the business, assuming its going to look anything like the alcohol market. However, the proportion of the alcohol market that is untaxed and in the hands of gangsters is fairly piddling.
Having said all that, there is a further problem: if the UK unilaterally legalized and regulated cannabis, it would immediately become a (bigger) hub for organised criminal activity and money laundering as cannabis was smuggled to other countries where it remained illegal.
Should Cannabis be legalised?
IMHO...... No
Most people have tried it, the vast majority grow out of it, some keep up the habit and turn into paranoid delusionals and some are OK other than they smell strange.
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yes . it is much better alternative to deadly tobacco and alcohol.
not bothered as I'm not fussed in the slighest about the commercialisation of cannabis. personal cultivation should be legalised though.
I dont think it should be legalised. I also think its wrong to hide it behind the veil of alcohol and smoking. Just because one thing is allowed, doesn't mean that everything else should be. There has to be a line drawn somewhere. I think the line should cut into alcohol and smoking more personally.
A big problem to me with the legalisation issue is that it cant be generalised into a single category of user. (The same is true of alcohol). Some people can take it responsibly, some cant, so you're not able to lump everyone together.
I'm not convinced that legalising it would make much difference anyway. If it were a taxed commercial product, you would likely still just get people growing their own and under-cutting the legal market with cheap home-brew gear and selling it on. As well as the larger OCG stuff supply chains already mentioned.
Yes it should, love it.
Hahaha, Jekkyl, I think you're a bit slow mate 😉
not bothered as I'm not fussed in the slighest about the commercialisation of cannabis.
Aren't you the guy that's all enthusiastic about the paramilitaries in Ireland? I'd have thought you'd be the other way around.
Whit? 😀 repulican views on drugs are antiquated, draconian and completely ridiculous.konabunny - Member
not bothered as I'm not fussed in the slighest about the commercialisation of cannabis.Aren't you the guy that's all enthusiastic about the paramilitaries in Ireland? I'd have thought you'd be the other way around
ps my views are wide and varied on ireland, don't be a fool and think that means I condone or agree with everything that happened.
