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[Closed] Should Boris Johnson resign?

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I had some spare time.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:07 pm
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119 days is the current record for shortest period as Prime Minister, so Boris has got to last another couple of months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Canning


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:13 pm
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I'm always wary of Twitter and what nameless Ministers / Party Officials say or don't day behind closed doors.

But apparently No10 has already had to announce that he won't be resigning (an announcement that always comes before someone resigns, and of course when they don't too) but Bojo is apparently considering resigning rather than asking for the extension himself.

Maybe he knows he's done for, quit now whilst he'd still got some fans to come back later on, or maybe he just wants to run away from his latest shitstorm.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:18 pm
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^ the latter.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:20 pm
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Surely he has to throw Cal Richards/Dominic Cummings under the bus first to save his own skin?

He can't resign - where's the entertainment in that?


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:23 pm
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The quicker Johnson goes the less chance there is of support for him rallying. Thatcher had a grim couple of years after her election, but then became very popular. The opposition at that time was not very dynamic, much as now. So maybe Johnson needs a Falklands war. Get rid before he has that chance.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:27 pm
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If I type "boris johnson" into the google search bar, the first suggestion is "resigns".


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:32 pm
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Posted : 05/09/2019 2:41 pm
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Should Boris Johnson resign?

No. 🤔


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:42 pm
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It is interesting that you could cobble together a pretty decent cabinet made up only of those MP's who were kicked out by BoJo the other day.

Ken Clarke - PM
Rory Stewart - Foreign Secretary
Nick Soames - Home Secretary

etc
etc


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:49 pm
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Isn't it about now that unpopular Tory PMs look for a country to go to war with, to take everyone's attention off how crap they are?


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:50 pm
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What Johnson and others fail to realise is that there is no such thing as " no deal" we either do a deal while in the EU from a position of economic relative stability and security whilst holding a veto over European actions or we hard Brexit and try to negotiate a deal with Europe from a position of chaos and desperation as the weakest party. We are geography right next to Europe a significant portion of our trade is with them either way we need a deal and they know it. Walking away without a deal condemns us to crawling back begging.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 2:55 pm
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They can't start a war they shuttered most of the armed forces and spent all the money on a promise of aircraft carriers and f35s.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:33 pm
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Honestly!

This is the Boris Johnson resignation question.

You want the general purpose Boris Johnson observations thread for that post.

Given the Brexit content you could move up even higher to the top level EU referendum thread. It's borderline though.

It's almost like there are too many politics threads...


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:37 pm
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Turns out it wasn't this bloke that resigned. Is dizzapointed he's not an MP.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:39 pm
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Only a matter of time before Jo has the family whip withdrawn and has to spend Christmas dinner with the servants below stairs eating his way through a deselection box


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:41 pm
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Only a matter of time before Jo has the family whip withdrawn

More the other way isnt it? I thought Alex (as it is reported he is actually known to friends and family) is the odd one out.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:47 pm
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He would only resign if it strengthened his position somehow. He's very cunning. but also reckless, which isn't good in a PM. And, thanks to Ms Davidson, he's also Ruthless.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 3:56 pm
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eating his way through a deselection box

oh very good.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 4:05 pm
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Resign, when he's doing so well?

https://twitter.com/DarrenJohnson66/status/1169353273498882048


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 6:33 pm
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I think you'll find he's playing a blinder


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 7:10 pm
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No, he should just find a handy ditch.


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 9:19 pm
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So maybe Johnson needs a Falklands war.

The British have never invaded Sweden before, one of the few countries that they haven't. Perhaps that would make a good enough distraction?


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 9:49 pm
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No deal Brexit is his Falklands


 
Posted : 05/09/2019 10:25 pm
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This popped up on my FB. 


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 8:10 am
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He's making Mays time as PM look like a well oiled machine

https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1169676333028466688?s=19


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 8:47 am
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He's coming across like a drunk picking a fight at closing time now over the election. "C'mon ya beardy lefty ****, I'll do you and all ya mates. You too you wee tartan ****er, I thought you were supposed to be hard etc"


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 9:22 am
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Not forgetting this gem - gotta love Yorkshire directness.

https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/1169664123745054727


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:15 am
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He doesn't even handle that very well, "can't wait to get away from all these awful northerners" !


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:20 am
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😂


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:46 am
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So, in order to avoid any more unfortunate incidents involving plain speaking Northerners, Boris has decided to spend today in the company of some  Aberdeenshire farmers.

What could possibly go wrong?


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:53 am
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Hopefully, lots.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 11:56 am
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Isn’t it about now that unpopular Tory PMs look for a country to go to war with, to take everyone’s attention off how crap they are?

That's what Brexit is morphing into. Whatever you offer the ERG and the Brexit Party Faragists is never enough. No Deal will not be a 'proper Brexit', eventually the only 'real' Brexit will be to nuke Europe and Boris will stand in front of Number 10 saying that the only way of getting a deal is by threatening war. And that way he really can die in a ditch. No Deal is Brexit In Name Only. You read it here first.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 12:21 pm
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The British have never invaded Sweden before, one of the few countries that they haven’t. Perhaps that would make a good enough distraction?

Errrr, that's probably not a good idea. We have a lot of reserves here and train for being invaded by bigger armies than the UK.

It would also make me really consider which side I should be on. Not sure I want to make that choice.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 12:31 pm
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It's a universal truth that no matter how bad a PM is the next one will make the previous one look good. No matter how improbable this seemed during May's time as PM, it's still true!


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 12:46 pm
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I think he will resign once he realises that he has no options other than to resign as PM or go and ask for an extension.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 12:49 pm
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The quicker Johnson goes the less chance there is of support for him rallying.

Nah, I'm going to go with: the longer he stays the more he'll shoot himself in the foot and alienate support. He'll eventually be left with a hard core of far right Brexit ultras which will be fighting the Brexit party for the idiots.

Corbyn doesn't need to do much but he does need to do it right. There's a massive statesmanship vacuum he can move into - I just hope he does.

Poll tracker still has Tories 11 points ahead, but crucially that was before the events of this week. The next published poll will be interesting.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 12:54 pm
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He won't resign, he's a narcissist. He will stay there until he's voted out, and the GE will be sole focus because it validates his narcissism. Which is why he employed the cheating mekon, do deliver a GE win.

Brexit is something to be jettisoned as it's a single point of focus which means it's not him in the spotlight (it's a bigger story than him) - also it forces scrutiny because it's the biggest item so he can't just use bannonist distraction and bluster


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:00 pm
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I think he will resign once he realises that he has no options other than to resign as PM or go and ask for an extension.

Agree, he's already made it explicit he's never asking for an extension, so if forced to do so he'll have no choice. If he does, won't that leave room for an alternative government rather than a GE?


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:01 pm
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Molgrips - only if there is a VONC - otherwise the tories simply pick another leader.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:05 pm
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He won’t resign, he’s a narcissist. He will stay there until he’s voted out, and the GE will be sole focus because it validates his narcissism. Which is why he employed the cheating mekon, do deliver a GE win.

Agreed, but there's a small chance he'll see asking for an extension as a good way to leave with his morals attached (I'm aware of how ludicrous that sounds, this would be his reasoning not mine) and thus a chance of coming back again in a few years.

He knows that few, if any people get a second shot at the big job, and he must know he's in deep shit at the moment. He may decide leaving becomes damage limitation.

I don't think the Tories will vote him out just now, he's one of the few Tories with enough profile to win an election who hasn't been booted out, or left in the last week.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:08 pm
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Johnson has succeeded in bringing the leavers back to the Tory party
Expelling the rebels is what his targets voters want

He's chasing & keeping 1/3rd of the vote but with remain split between SNP/labour libdem he's got a reasonable chance of making it work

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/what-has-been-the-long-term-legacy-of-mays-european-election/

Very frustrating to see thornberry (whom I normally like) tripping over labours Brexit policy on QT- it's exactly why labour can't nail down the remain or leave votes


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 1:16 pm
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captions?

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1169875316619104256


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 3:45 pm
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He knows that few, if any people get a second shot at the big job, and he must know he’s in deep shit at the moment. He may decide leaving becomes damage limitation.

PM BoJo will have to go to the voters to see if those opposition will have a leg to stand on.


 
Posted : 06/09/2019 3:56 pm
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For someone so keen to get a deal from the EU, why is blowhard busy posturing and threatening a GE rather than in Brussels to try to secure this deal? If underlings are working round the clock to secure it, where is the news or reports of progress?


 
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