[Closed] Shia Law and a husbands 'right' to sex.....

That would certainly upset my wife ................

she can't survive on once every 4 days 😀

I'm becoming muslim

MrTall - Member

Good to see equality for the sexes in the middle east is alive and well eh?

When we have sexual equality in this country, your comment will bear more weight

Did someone mention sex?

When we have sexual equality in this country, your comment will bear more weight

Methinks we are closer!

[i]Apparantly a Shia man can legally demand sex from his wife every four days and it is illegal for the woman to refuse!![/i]

It's part of a new piece of legislation that some Afghans are trying to push through their parliament, so I don't think it's actually "law"

it was not illegal for a husband to rape his wife until 1991

in this country

we aren't [i]that[/i] far ahead

Don't you mean Sharia law? Shia being that annoying twunt from Transformers. At any rate many islamic communities here adhere to it so it's not beyond the imagination that this is practiced in GB.

I love watching those Sharia law debates on channel 4. Fascinating stuff.

[i]Did someone mention sex? [/i]

Yes now cover your eyes hora, you'll go blind 😆

What mrmw said.

[i]Yes now cover your eyes hora, you'll go blind[/i]

Many a time have I been warned about the occupational hazzard.

Mr Tall have you had your head in the sand? (for 2 weeks)

That law was out in by the Afghan President to win votes and no doubt he will remove it with pressure from Democratic countries investing in Afghanistan.

Under Sharia Law, women were entitled to own land, something which western women have only enjoyed the right to do so, for a relatively short time.

British colonisation of Islamic countries and regions removed these rights.

There are many fascinating aspects of Sharia Law, and indeed some of our own Laws could, it can be argued, evolved from aspects of Sharia Law.

But newspapers/the Media tend to ignore this, as it's sensationalism of particular aspects of other cultures that differ to ours, which sells more papers/gets bigger ratings.

The Married Women's Property Act was passed in 1882 so quite a long time really... though in the very long term admittedly just a little while.

mrmichaelwright - Member
it was not illegal for a husband to rape his wife until 1991

in this country

[pedant]You do of course mean the UK?[/pedant]

don't let sfb in on this thread!

well, England and Wales actually, don't know about Scotland

*pushes glasses up nose*

Apparently the Scots got there first, not sure when though.

To add to the pedantry I think you'll find that before 1991 it actually wasn't possible to rape your wife. You didn't have the right to rape them, you had the right to sex and therefore couldn't rape them.

only in the eye of the law......

I bet Viagra sells well over there..

Storm in a teacup, there are FAR bigger issues than what in reality is a cultural difference which needs time. Concentrating on issues like this will dissolve the little respect and influence the west has in the middle east.

In Sharia law women were allowed to own property.

Well, if you've been to parts of the world where it is the law, you'd have to say that owning a square of flyblown sand or dry rocky desert is hardly the greatest gift ever...... Its a statment that seems rather less than the sum of its parts...

only in the eye of the law? I think you are naively confusing legality and morality. I think in reality they differ widely. 🙂

" Concentrating on issues like this will dissolve the little respect and influence the west has in the middle east. "

....... and [i][b]that attitude[/b][/i] ladies and gentlemen, is how we came to finance, arm, and train, Osama Bin Laden and his followers.

Any questions ?

avdave2 - Member

only in the eye of the law? I think you are naively confusing legality and morality. I think in reality they differ widely

Before 1991 the law did not consider non-consensual intercourse between married couples to be rape. I'm sure most people would consider this to be rape. the law did not. perhaps you think rape is moral?

Mrmw
The point is that it doesn't matter a damn what people think if the law says differently. I am not for one second defending the law, just reinforcing the point that our laws usually lag a long way behind our morality. I'm very much in agreement with the sentiments of your first post.

Listen to you all trying to lick ar$es. It does not obviate the fact that much of Sharia law is debasing to women and simply the male dominated religeous institutions method of sexual domination and control. Stop being so pc and namby pamby.

all trying to lick ar$es.

I'm guessing that would probably be against Sharia law.

much of Sharia law is debasing to women

No it's not. Go and learn about it, then come back and comment, rather than simply spouting whatever shite you've read in the S*n.

There are nations where Sharia is misinterpreted, or is applied disproportionately and unfairly to women. This is the fault of the local culture, not necessarily Sharia Law.

There are also countries where the doctrine of Christianity, and other religions, is manipulated by those in power. Islam is not alone, in being misinterpreted and manipulated to serve the purpose of corrupt and tyrannical leaders.

It's just the Media's favourite 'Demonic Foreign Culture'.

Cheeze, some proper narrow-minded ignorance on here. 🙄

Mind, why would I find that surprising...

I lived in a strict Muslim house for 6 months Rude Boy, did you? (The rest deleted due to abuse - mod)

I lived in a strict Muslim house for 6 months Rude Boy, did you? what tf do you know about me t0sser.

Ha ha ha ha!

Someone put him out of his misery....

stick you liberal high minded attitude up your ars£.

I'm sorry, you've completely lost me ............... you're now supporting Sharia Law ? 😕

Ha ha ha ha!

Someone put him out of his misery....

I think the very good point that fauxbyfour is making is that if you want to put a rabid intolerant raving lunatic in charge then it should be him. 🙂

RB whatever your views (largely correct) on the western media perception of Isalm this action is no great advert for Islam and I asuume you are opposed to it.

I don't know why, but I'm walking around chuckling to myself, as I keep thinking of what avdave2 wrote ....... nice one 😛

I'm opposed to it, of course, as I believe such demands on individual behaviour impinge in people's Human Rights. But what's not been said on here, is that this is in fact not a tenet of Sharia Law, but a law recently passed in Afghanistan, that is being claimed as deriving from Sharia Law. This is a misinterpretation.

As I've said before, there is a gross misunderstanding of Sharia Law, and what it actually states. Contrary to some sensationalist Media hysteria, Sharia is not as oppressive and as draconian as people may think (or believe what they read in the papers).

I think some people really go away and educate themselves on a subject they quite clearly know bugger all about, instead of posting the usual knee-jerk claptrap on here. It gets tiresome.

I will say, that some interprations of Islam, and Sharia Law, in some Islamic countries, are oppressive and deny individuals, especially women, the freedoms tha Islam actually demands of it's followers. A religion which has been used to control a historically very unruly and unstable region of the World, has traditionally appeared quite strict, and very often, justifiably so. Before Islam united peoples in the Middle East, there was great lawlessness and injustice. Only by being enforced in a strict manner, could Islam gain some form of control over people.

But Islam itself stands for peace and unity, as do most religions. And like others, it will surely take some time before things become more relaxed, and the religion and culture can be viewed and enjoyed, in a more gentle manner.

Any questions ?

Are you always that patronising?

Are you always that patronising?

Who, me ?

Absolutely........... it comes with this strong sense of superiority which I intensely feel.

RB very well said and I agree with everything you said and the sentiment BUT

But Islam itself stands for peace and unity, as do most religions

Well, it works well, for lots of people. To each their own.

RudeBoy is correct; it is all about how Sharia Law is interpreted. There are interpretations which are archaic and downright demeaning when viewed from a liberal Western perspective, but there are bits which make a lot of sense. Sharia rules on finance are interesting, particularly given the way some banks have behaved in recent years.