Is it possible now?
My company has an "office" in Gibraltar where the weather is much sunnier.
I realise that I have no idea how things work if you moved there. Can you just nip in and out to Spain or would you still be limited to 90 days?
Could you live in Spain and cross the border to work each day?
I probably won't do it, going and working abroad in the sun is something other people do. But you never know...
What's the mountain biking like down there??
No idea, but I'd like to live vicariously through your experience 😄
Gib? It's a rock. Literally just a rock. I have been there twice for work and it's essentially just a lot of houses clinging to a large rock. Most of the people I met lived in Spain and crossed the border every day for work and I did not see anyone on a mountain bike the whole time I was there. Or a road bike for that matter.
Sure, go for work, but I really do not think that it's a great place for biking.
I believe you’ll still be limited to the 90 days in Spain rule. Fundamentally you’re not an EU citizen so tough- regardless of working in Gib (which in my limited experience is a bit grim).
I have a feeling who has left the Army whilst in Gib and is staying there. If you have any specific questions ask away, I'll relay and respond back with his answers.
I was born there, been back once. Not on my list to go back.
Could you live in Spain and cross the border to work each day?
Not without the legal right to live in Spain, no. And unlike everyone else who overstays and lives in Spain illegally, you'd be offering yourself up for inspection every day! You would also be tax resident in both Spain and Gibraltar (although you wouldn't need to pay tax at the full rate in both).
Could you live in Spain and cross the border to work each day?
Non-Lucrative Visa is probably the only route, but it was intended for retirees having an independent income from another country (and therefore not a drain on Spain's welfare), so by living in Spain and getting a salary from elsewhere (i.e. hopping over to work in Gib), you run the risk of it either being denied from the outset or at renewal.
Gibraltar is ok for a visit, but I'd not want to live there.
*Edited for clarity.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Tracer&diffonly=tru
Some fascinating gibraltar history, operation Tracer
A secret plan to leave 6 men behind after an invasion, bricked up inside the rock with hidden observation slits over the med and food for seven years.
I’ve worked in Gib a bit, It’s ok, wouldn’t be my choice. One of the companies we work(ed) for had guys that were living in Spain and commuting across the border. I’m not 100% but they may have had residentia before Brexit, I have no idea if Brexit caused that to be rescinded.
Gambling company? They're often based in Gib for regulatory purposes. The office will likely be minimal, not suitable for actual work.
Could you live in Spain and cross the border to work each day?
You'll need a big enough passport to hold all the entry and exit stamps you'll queue up for every single working day. The Spanish are (rightly) treating GB and Gibraltar as the third country we were so desperate to become. I know someone who ended up having to fly back to the UK solely to get a fresh passport because his was full after a few weeks.
Wouldn't be feasible for more than a few months unless you were resident in Gibraltar.
Could be a nice tax dodge if you flit between Spain (EU) and UK (not EU), it's quite a difficult thing to get away these days though.
I was in and out of Gib about 12years ago for a few years. It's an interesting place and I would have considered moving their, if it wasn't for the border. Even pre Brexit you could have serious delays. I used to love staying in a hotel in La Linea and walking across to the office each day, however, I did have the odd day ruined by strikes at the border. I also got trapped by the RAF having a day of fun on the runway!
The rock itself is okay, but I think I'd go stir crazy living there, and due to the 90day rule meaning living across the border is out I think it would be a challenge now. A couple of my marina projects now seem to be landlocked as well, so development is forever pushing out into the sea!
I do want to go back and check in on old colleagues and projects though.
Hmm, not a great endorsement from anyone then.
Tbh we're so fed up with the Scottish "summer" that it was just a thought and if you all said the mountain biking is ace, go for it then maybe would be worth looking in to.
I wouldn't want to be limited to only 90 days out of Gibraltar, so unless there's a sensible way around that then I'm probably out.
Gambling company? They’re often based in Gib for regulatory purposes. The office will likely be minimal, not suitable for actual work.
Nope. And the office itself would be perfectly suitable, the work probably nowhere near as interesting as what I do now.
This may be unfair, inaccurate or out of date, but from the people I know who’ve been it’s incredibly ‘little England-y British’, like living in the Daily Mail.
Years ago I went for a day, went for a walk up the rock to see some monkeys and had some food. My memory of it is crossing the runway was a novelty, there were still bobbies on the beat with proper old school helmets & the traffic lights looked like they were from the 80s - your summing up is probably about right I'd imagine.
Property in Gib is very expensive.
A mate of mine is a harbour pilot, lives in Gib but he earns big money.
Another mate lives just over the border, his Mrs works in Gib but they can't afford to live there.
Not sure how they manage since Brexit?
TBH Spain do have a digital nomad visa so if your only visiting the office a few times a month as opposed to working at it you could actually live in Spain 🙂
I’d look at it for a taster then explore other avenues if you find that’s the life for you.
There is life after Brexit it’s just a little more involved and you need more money but I’d definately give it a go.(Sat in my pants 24°c with a high of 32°c later)
There is life after Brexit it’s just a little more involved and you need more money but I’d definately give it a go.(Sat in my pants 24°c with a high of 32°c later)
But tbf we can all do that now - just need to turn the heating up a bit in our British homes... 😉
hmm but is your average energy bill €100 a month, we use leccy for everything heating/cooling cooking and our bill is high compared to others 🙂
I’ve spent the day on Gib. It’s very interesting but it’s still 35k people crammed into a tiny space. It’s busy, polluted and hot. To get any real space you need to go through the border back to Spain so it felt quite claustrophobic to me. Property is silly expensive, £200k for a studio flat Interesting history and great to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.
And getting through the border to Spain will get much harder later this year if the new EU border checks come in.
I was thinking about that today, they were very close to a deal but it was nobbled it at the last moment as the brexies really didn't like it.
Its a total farce as 95.91% of its inhabitants voted to stay in the EU.
kormoran
Free Memb http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Operation_Tracer&diffonly=truSome fascinating gibraltar history, operation Tracer
Interesting, hadnt heard of that.
when I said in my post that I’ve spent the day on Gib, I meant to say that was today!
There are more miles of tunnels than roads, about 50km of tunnels. They are staggering, they contain fuel dumps, vehicle workshops, hospitals. The military history there is remarkable but, when you look at its location, that is understandable.
They are staggering, they contain fuel dumps, vehicle workshops, hospitals.
Is that all historic and derelict or is some still in use for potential future conflicts?
50km of tunnels is incredible, it must be like swiss cheese!lol