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Well there’s a lot wrong with your post but this is just wrong, they conceded a try.
It is expected that if a player has a 10 minute sit down their team loses around 7 points, so not exactly shipping points as I have pointed out. Wales have done exactly what they have needed to do, and in my opinion will continue to do so. They have form.
Well, Wales really were beaten by France, they were just lucky enough to have more points at the end.
Wales aren't the only team to win a match after being behind either! Lots to look forward to, I can't wait!
Well, Wales really were beaten by France, they were just lucky enough to have more points at the end.
Oh well if that’s your attitude then Wales are the only ones to play and win all their games and England, NZ and SA don’t deserve to win the RWC! 😛
Is Nowell out? Guardian says he is fit?
BBC day that he’s not recovered from a hamstring injury.
I think Wales need to step up a gear against SA. They’ve got the results needed but they’ve not convinced doing so. But, they do have it in them.
PaddyPower are showing 25:1 for a draw. How does that work in a SF where one side will win?
It will be probably be the score at the end of 80 mins rather than no side.
England, NZ and SA don’t deserve to win the RWC!
They certainly don't. They've all won it before, they should let someone else have a turn, especially NZ, greedy sods.
I've got to say that I think Wales got pretty lucky, in their game against France. In a pool game I reckon Moriarty would have seen red*, and with France well on top at that point I doubt they'd have survived the rest of the game with 14 men.
*Initially I thought the French player had dipped into the tackle but in the replay it look as if he was turning/attempting to step Moriarty.
The French player obviously deserved his red, but that meant France were a man down for a lot longer than Wales were and kept in it right until the end. And then who scores the wining try.....
Saying that I hope hope Wales make the final, but then lose by a good 20 points to England!!
Liam Williams is out of whatever remains of the world cup for Wales.
May as well pack up and go home now.
It is expected that if a player has a 10 minute sit down their team loses around 7 points, so not exactly shipping points as I have pointed out
You are now talking your way round in circles, a reasonable thing to do would be to admit you were wrong.
Wales have done exactly what they have needed to do, and in my opinion will continue to do so. They have form
So did they need to concede early tries to France? Did they need to do the same v Fiji?. Apart from a few flashes v Aus Wales have not played well this world cup, your insistence that they should beat SA is bonkers, thats why the bookies have SA as hot favourites, its simple realism. Apart from AWJ not one of our front five forwards would make the SA 23
Is that confirmed Flash, I've seen rumours?
Liam Williams is out of whatever remains of the world cup for Wales.
May as well pack up and go home now.
1/2p is not a bad replacement to have on hand though.
If it was AWJ out I'd have agreed with you though...
So did they need to concede early tries to France? Did they need to do the same v Fiji?.
In those matches Wales needed to win and that is exactly what they did. Unless you can point out where that failed in their objective then you’ll agree. Surely you understand how the World Cup works?
Arse, I've realised that the England Semifinal is on whilst I taking my daughter for her weekly swimming lesson (she 1 so I have to get in with her).
I missed the last 15 minutes last week
Is anyone braving the pub for the england semi final? I've not watched a game at the pub yet due to the rubbish days/times. Looks like weve got a few of us mustered for a cheeky pint or two and a full english come full time.
I missed the last 15 minutes last week
Of her swimming lesson I presume?
Look, if she misses her lesson this week it probably won't prevent her being 100m butterfly champion at the 2036 Olympics.
Just sayin.......
Don’t be late if you are flying from Gatwick to Bari Saturday morning! If I leave early and fly like the wind, I can watch the match on iPlayer before flying home again!
In those matches Wales needed to win and that is exactly what they did. Unless you can point out where that failed in their objective then you’ll agree. Surely you understand how the World Cup works?
I'm not sure you understand how rugby works!! Giving both teams big head starts and then winning the qf with a late very lucky try was certainly not doung whats needed. Care to poibt out why the bookies see sa as firm favourites whilst you think they will win? What have the bookies missed?
Is anyone braving the pub
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I’m not sure you understand how rugby works!! Giving both teams big head starts and then winning the qf with a late very lucky try was certainly not doung whats needed. Care to poibt out why the bookies see sa as firm favourites whilst you think they will win? What have the bookies missed?
So you agree that Wales won, although I agree, not by an emphatic performance. Thank you for clearing that up, I'd be lost without you!
If I had wanted to follow the bookies opinions, I would have. Instead I gave my thoughts and added quite clearly "IMO" (that means 'in my opinion'), you even quoted my post.
Anyway, let's stick to Wales V SA, perhaps we shouldn't forget that SA have failed to beat Wales in their last 4 meetings.....
Whatever happens, Saturday will be a great day for rugby and good luck to all four teams.
Saturday will be a great day for rugby and good luck to all four teams.
Sunday.
Sunday
Yep, Sunday too!
Anyway, let’s stick to Wales V SA, perhaps we shouldn’t forget that SA have failed to beat Wales in their last 4 meetings…..
Friendlies against an end of season knackered SA or Washington DC knockabouts dont count for much. Curious what aspects of the game you think Wales have the advantage in?
I’m assuming the big SA pack has something to do with Wales looking tired against the French. Its ok having a defense based team but taking a battering week in week out must take a toll.
Anyway lets hope for the best eh.
I’m assuming the big SA pack has something to do with Wales looking tired against the French.
I think thats just SA packs!!
To be fair , there was quite a lengthy period where S.A went fairly shit , mainly due to a unsuccessful management period and a large team rebuild following big name retirements.
All culminating when they got their own asses handed to them by Japan a few years back.
They're looking good this year though.
Lots of power upfront and will try and dominate with the forwards.
But certainly not unbeatable regardless of what odds the bookies give.
Thank goodness Wales set piece has somewhat come together just in time... but all teams know how to beat Wales. As we always say, Wales just don't have destructive big ball carriers or a pack to defend the likes of England/ NZ/ SA who *can* make light work of them. Lots to be gained close to rucks and running inside shoulders/ inside runners against Wales as several teams have shown. Gatland said this week all teams know how to beat each other though, but doing it is another matter.
What is in Wales favour is SA have a habit of blowing chances still and giving the opposition little half chances to get back in to a game. Wales reeeaaally need to start well and be able to put SA under pressure. True of virtually all rugby matches but I don't fancy Wales having to chase SA.
Lets hope for two cracking matches!
Curious what aspects of the game you think Wales have the advantage in?
I’ve already stated where I think Wales will do well and what their strengths are.
Player v player I think Wales probably come up a bit short when compared with S.A. but I believe Wales’ players are greater than the sum of its parts. This is evident in their habit of falling behind (as you point out) and then going on to win (as I point out). I don’t think Wales will romp to victory but I reckon they might just edge S.A.
How do you see the match panning out?
I’ve already stated where I think Wales will do well and what their strengths are.
Have you? I must have missed that.
How do you see the match panning out?
Either Wales will get a real smashing by about 20 points or SA will choke and it'll be close, I just dont see where Wales have an advantage. Scrum, no, lineouts no, mauls no, ball carrying in forwards no, mid field no, back 3 no. So our best hope is SA get tired out running into us and Biggar can win a few high balls.
Firstly, I agree it is hard to see Wales winning this match. Especially with injury upon injury.
I just dont see where Wales have an advantage
However (all of this does not consider SA - which I do not know enough about), Wales do have a few things going for them. Strategy: I have become increasingly confident over the past few years in Gatland’s ability to find a plan to play each big game. Kicking: Wales are great with penalty and conversion kicks, drop goals have also been successful at times so far. Pressure: Wales have won a few big games in the past 18 months where they were underdogs, due to imho their being able to handle the pressure better than their opponents; AWJ, Biggar, 1/2p being three in particular who spring to mind. I may be delusional, it may not be enough to win, but it is enough to give me hope. So long as Wales are within 6pts of the opposition before the 80 min gong, I’ll still be a little hopeful.
Wales: Halfpenny; North, J Davies, Parkes, Adams; Biggar, G Davies; Wyn Jones, Owens, Francis, Ball, Alun Wyn Jones (capt), Wainwright, Moriarty, Tipuric.
Replacements: Dee, R Carre, D Lewis, Beard, Shingler, T Williams, Patchell, Watkin.
Shit's about to get real! Enjoy the games everyone.
That's some Welsh team.
All British lions backs, except the 2 -parks Adams - who weren't yet Welsh enough
5 out of 8 lions forward too.
Should be confident coming off a slam.
And a gameplan that doesn't need the ball should be ideal against the boks.
Kick long, pressure mistakes, play the ref, take chances.
Can see SA getting frustrated
Big miss with kolbe out too , all ways good to watch.
Other game interesting too
All blacks building nicely, and Arddie looks like the new Michael Jones.
England confident too.
picking 2 tens looks like they'll continue with that big kick chase game that's brought a good few tries for may.
All blacks won't mind them sending ball to Barret though
Should be fun
Though it feels dirty saying it, I want England to win this one.
If Wales can get past SA, they're more likely to beat England than NZ, so my reasoning is partly selfish!
Also, I'll happily support whoever is playing NZ as a matter of principle!
So, good luck England!
Mega excited this morn !
got up early to get all my shit done in readiness
too early for me to be boozing so i'm wired on caffine lol
Will be a great match , , good luck England !
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Woke up at 5, daren't go back to sleep incase I slept in and missed KO...
Just done half an hour on the rowing machine cos I'm nervous and need something to do.....
Might have to get a bacon butty!.
Come on England!!!🌹
Come on England (and Wales for tomorrow)
I am as excited as a small boy at Christmas! Just off to the pub to join up with a group of friends, big fat breakfast and then it will be KO.
Good luck to all and here's hoping George Kruis comes on and scores the winning try.....
5 out of 8 lions forward too.
Who are they?
Though it feels dirty saying it, I want England to win this one.
I can see your point and its a good one, but its a big risk, what if Wales lose tomorrow!!! If only the games were reversed!!
yep - woke up early here too. Beautiful sunny day, clear skies, but the bike is going to sit inside this morning!
Have a friend in NZ who is keeping very quiet about his teams chances.....
Should be confident coming off a slam.
Not to mention that walloping they inflicted on the French.
Not to mention that walloping they inflicted on the French.
And Fiji
Though it feels dirty saying it, I want England to win this one.
If Wales can get past SA, they’re more likely to beat England than NZ, so my reasoning is partly selfish!
Also, I’ll happily support whoever is playing NZ as a matter of principle!
So, good luck England!
This is pretty much where I am too. I’m sure I’ll regret it should they win, as the media and some of the pundits will be unbearable. But, some of the team are actually quite likeable and whilst NZ play some great rugby, it’s time for someone else to win.
Come on England!
I’d prefer England to play Wales in the final too, think they’d have a better chance against them than SA