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He is a flat track bully in cricket terms as are england as a whole
But havent they always been? Traditionally we’ve relied on a big pack and goal kickers; look how we rescued the 2007 WC against Australia.
Farrell is no means the best FH but he’s not as bad as you make out. But I do t think there’s many players that measure up to Russell in your eyes.
Great try!!
Looking back, it was really Johnny’s drop goal that won the GS. None of the next four games looked in doubt.
I agree and I think I most people do. Ireland’s accuracy under pressure is rather good and probably unrivalled in the NH.
They did give a few penalties away today but they were on the opposition ball, slowing things down etc. Whereas we’ve mastered the art of giving them away when we’re attacking.
Cracking try by France.
TomB - i'll find a pic later to show what I mean. How many times did England create space in the backs? How many times diud they get outside ireland?
Mindmap - thats the problem for me - england are still trying to play the game as it was not as it now is.
Mindmap - Russell - world class for a few minutes each game! If we could breed them we might get Farrells consistency with Russell skills - or we could get Russells consistency with Farrells skills * hides behind sofa at the thought*
Russell – world class for a few minutes each game!
Or throw enough wild wild balls until one reaches your man, then everyone says it was a pass of the millennium?
France playing well.
Mindmap – thats the problem for me – england are still trying to play the game as it was not as it now is.
But up until now it’s been very successful; back to back 6N’s including a grand slam, whitewashed Australia, beat Argentina away etc. My main concern is that they don’t / can’t adapt to what happens on the day. Today was another example; Ireland didn’t flood the breakdown as expected yet England didn’t bother carrying through the guts. That needs a lot of work.
LOlz at Gauss.
Serge Betsen looks like he's tackled a bus face first!!!
Jones post match interview “ a few have played their last England match”. Ouch - wonder who he means?
That Falle is some player, best 15 of the tournament for me.
This is not going the way I’d hoped!
Entertaining game though! Best of the day so far.
Best of the day so far.
Yeah, I'd be saying that too. 🙂
Argh
That missed kick by Trinh-Duc........
Well that was tense!! AWJ immense.
😀
Well done Wales. You came second.
Yup - I often don't see what folk do see in AWJ but he was immense. Wales turn to squeak thru. Your turn to clench CFH / AA?
AWJ immense
But Jonny Gray would have made more tackles 😉
Yup - goes without saying. 😉
Wales finish above Scotland in competitive games again....wonder if it'll be reflected in World Rankings.
I often don’t see what folk do see in AWJ
Says a lot
Wales finish above Scotland in competitive games again….wonder if it’ll be reflected in World Rankings.
Scotland go back to fifth. Wales stay seventh.
Who's in 2nd then?
So who played themselves into a world 15 then? Who increased their standing and who goes back to the training ground.
Improved maybe world class?
Scotland - Gray / Barclay?
Ireland - Murray and Sexton? Stockdale? The whole team for theior cohesivness and reading of the game?
Wales - AWJ impressed today but I want to give a shout to 1/2p - his defensive positioning immense today
France - Fat bastard was immense.
Italy - Tomaso allen looked the part - not world class but surely he has made that Italy 10 shirt his.
England - did anyone really put in a good performance? Robshaw worked very hard for not a lot.
Back to the training ground
Russell - to much shite amongst his genius
Townsend - too many selection errors
The whole England team 😉
Loopy Liam? luck his hot headedness did not cost Wales more
AWJ makes the six nation team of the tournament.
Fantastic player watched him closely this time around and he is some player.
Well done Wales. You came second.
Better than 3rd 4th or 5th!!
Winning three home games was about par. Would have been nice to have knicked one of the away games. Given the squad we started with I'm quite pleased really. If Jiffy Junior comes back as good as ever we'll be set for the world cup. We arent going to uncover any big ball carrying forwards though which is what we need. Having said that Tips at 6 today isnt the answer to any question.
Better than 3rd 4th or 5th!!
Yes.
Oh, and agreed about Wyn-Jones...he's only Welsh player I'd have in the green machine. Really good 6N from him.
he’s only Welsh player I’d have in the green machine.
Faletau? He's better than Stander and more Irish than Stander!!!He was bloody good today too. That outside break where he burnt the French back row was awesome.
England – did anyone really put in a good performance? Robshaw worked very hard for not a lot.
Daly did pretty well today, and last week. Two tries with that donkey Farrell at 10 😉
Othervthan that, not much to be cheerful about as an England fan.
Who would you drop DD Ryan or Hendo?
Scotland?
Over all a decent 6 n - won 3 games, Beat England which is a real bonus as its been a while. 3rd place finish - thats improving each year. Next year 2nd, 2020 we win!
Gray junior immense as ever - I am going to look up his stats in a bit. Barclay - the captain we have needed and what a 6N he had. Nice to find another centre in Grigg as well the rate we keep on breaking them. Watson a great series although heavily watched but he and barclay were an absolute pest in every game.
Townsend made some selection errors but also a couple of good moves and his subs were great and tactics pretty good
Somehow Horne seems to add so much for such a limited player - he should have started today with Grigg as impact sub. Swinson - I have no idea how he keeps getting selected - Big Ritchie was fit to play today and should have started.
overall 7/10 for me. would have been 8 if they hadn't imploded against Wales
Probably Ryan BM (when Hendo's at full fitness), but y'know who would you drop from from a Grand Slam winning side, eh? And one that did it the "hard" way... 🙂 Wyn-Jones could be a finisher perhaps.
Townsend made some selection errors
I love the way the people on here know better than the coaches 😉
Tj do you think Scotland have Gatland to thank for coming third? They did very well to beat England, but everybody seems to agree the England players looked tired following the Lions tour.
Guass - its much easier in hindsight. He twice played centres out of position
Gatland / Lions? Itsdidn't seem to affect the welsh players that much and its not so much the english on th lions tour I have issue with - its the welsh 😉
I think not having players on the lions did help Scotland tho for sure
Guass – its much easier in hindsight. He twice played centres out of position
I think it’s harsh to call them selection errors, because with hindsight you’ve decided Scotland would have done better with a different selection. Surely a coach has to pick the best team with the information they have. Your choice could have done far worse than Townsend’s under the circumstances Townsend foresaw, or even those on the actual day. I know nothing about player positions, but I would presume Townsend knows more than both of us - you like him as a coach, perhaps you should have some faith in him.
Itsdidn’t seem to affect the welsh players that much and its not so much the english on th lions tour I have issue with – its the welsh
Not so sure; they have/had injuries to lots of their better players; Faletau, Warbs, JD2.
The welsh team interests me; lots of good players returning to wales next season to try and get a shout; Rhodri and Jordan from Bris being two. Great lads and very good players. Be nice to see them kick on.
Gauss - it think with hindsight he would admit as much over the centres. call it experiments that didn't work then. Toonie is very early in his coaching career and he will improve
Both times when he made the subs the cohesion of the backs improved. I can see why he tried it Peter Horne is really a limited player so toonie didn't want to start him but he seems to have something scotland need.
Well - a quick dig into the stats. ickle jonny disappointing - he missed 3 tackles this 6N - mind you he made 95! also 52 carries and 25 passes. I bet no other player was involved in the game more or has stats to come close to that.
Well – a quick dig into the stats
Fascinating.
What rugby needs is more statistics.