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Going to England to sit on the bench has been the end of a few folks careers. Is he really going to be first chopice or is he just going to be cover for their internationals?

Maybe I am wrong but I have seen it too many times


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 7:37 pm
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Well he's a better full back than Goode and a better winger than whoever they currently have that was kept out of the team by Ashton.


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 7:38 pm
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Run AA - run away.


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 8:10 pm
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So, open season on no arm shoulder smashing to the head, apparently.
Sam Cane gets off with nothing.


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 9:00 pm
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I agree with the Cane judgement. Accidental not a red no ban to serve.


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 9:25 pm
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Doubt Williams will be sitting in the bench; he's a replacement for Ashton and I imagine that he'll be paid well. Also he'll get a shot of winning stuff with Sarries 😆

If Halfpenny resigns for Toulon, will Wales be forced to rethink they're approach to overseas players? It's not stopping players leaving the regions.

Roko has been dropped from the England squad for Saturday. Looks like butchering that try by not passing to Daly has cost him. May back in. Harrison and Wood to battle it out for the seven jersey.


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 10:44 pm
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If 1/2p stays its between Roberts,North,Faletau,1/2p,Priestland and Williams for 3 places I think.

Or sack Gatland and get rid of "his" rule


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 10:55 pm
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Surely he'll rethink it if key players still piss off and play elsewhere?


 
Posted : 22/11/2016 11:02 pm
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I dont 5hink it really is Gatlands idea hence the ""


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 7:17 am
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Definitely think Roko is unlucky to miss out to allow a centre to play wing. I don't always agree with Jones selections, but you can't argue with their effectiveness. Maybe he really does see Daly as a potential world class winger?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 8:27 am
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Fantastic player though he is, I can see why Roko has been dropped.

He made two searing breaks against Fiji but nothing came directly from either because at no point did he look around for any support but just died with the ball.

I guess EJ wants smarter footballers and Daly certainly fits the bill. It's similar to how the ABs put Israel Dagg on the wing because, although he's not good enough to get in at fullback, his all round ability has made him pretty useful at 14.

It's interesting to see how many international sides operate with more than one fullback in the back three. Out and out wingers seem less in favour than guys with a better all round game.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:20 am
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Dagg and Smith are pretty exceptional though. As fast as wingers. NZ look a bit dodgy in defence with both Savea and Naholo on the wings.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 10:23 am
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I like Daly. I think he's got a bright future but wonder if his versatility will hamper him future down the line.

He's got some gas too; the try he scored against Lesinter last season was brilliant. Plus he's got a huge boot. He seems like a very intelligent player. Roko did some great stuff but butchered a try by not passing and was a bit suspect defensively.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 1:39 pm
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For some reason I've got in my head that the Aussies under EJ used to swap centres with wingers. Don't ask me specifics though.... I think he does want better all round players on the wings (hence that Exeter bloke) as opposed to out and out gas, but that doesn't explain May...
Anyway, he seems to know what he's doing, I reckon he'll do alright with the selection.

Interesting on the centres as well - Farrell, Daily, Joseph, Slade, Arm guard man and Manu coming back for Leicester this weekend - how has that happened after all these years without any?


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 1:51 pm
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For some reason I've got in my head that the Aussies under EJ used to swap centres with wingers.

Aus have for a long time just picked the best players and then put them in positions.


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 2:32 pm
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Sweet jesus that must have been sore!!!

[url= http://www.rugbydump.com/2016/11/5466/james-horwill-has-surgery-to-fix-unbelievably-gruesome-finger-injury ]click if your brave!![/url]


 
Posted : 23/11/2016 8:06 pm
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Jesus! That must be bloody sore.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 8:26 am
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3 week ban for Callum Clark 😯 given his previous he should count himself very very lucky.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 9:01 am
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Horwell was a bloody warrior! He tried to get it 're located' on the pitch to carry on! I feel it was a little beyond that.....

Callum Clark 3 weeks is very lucky. OK this one was not so bad as others (Hawkins arm) however there has to be a stage where you say 'I don't want that psycho on the pitch with me' surely?


 
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The backlash from the Irish press/radio media in response to the All Blacks' high hits is huge, were they any different to what is seen in at least one high level game of rugby per week worldwide? Are NZ any worse than any other team at this? The 'whinging' coming from the media here is starting to grate given the Irish reliance on the high choke tackle. Has this high hit only come into the game since the influx of league defence coaches? I'm not excusing the Fekitoa one which was very bad by the way.
I'm much more concerned about the likes of Calum Clark type incidents where a player has deliberately gone out to injure and remove a guy from the game.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 11:15 am
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Given that the irish are also moaning like bitches about Barrets try being given when Sexton was trying to pull his head off I am inclined to think **** em!! Should have been a pen try and yellow card.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 11:47 am
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I was talking about the Clark incident with a mate yesterday, his question is why hasn't someone battered him on the pitch? Is he some psycho (evidence leans that way) that people are scared of?

The Irish bleating is a bit beneath them.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 11:57 am
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The Irish press do seem to have forgotten about Sexton's challenge!

Clark is very lucky to only the three weeks given his previous form - plenty don't think he should be playing at all after the Hawkins incident.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 11:59 am
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Are NZ any worse than any other team at this?

Almost certainly not, but they do seem to get an easier ride from officials.

Too many cheap shots, such as Hore on Bradley Davies, detract from their lovely rugby. They don't [i]need[/i] to be violent and thuggish, they just choose to.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 2:18 pm
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Clark is a bawbag, end of.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 3:16 pm
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Clark is a bawbag, end of.

One of the rare occasions when everyone on the thread agrees, I'd imagine.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 3:50 pm
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why hasn't someone battered him on the pitch?

Very few players want to risk a long ban these days. I doubt he would try that shit with the likes of Cudmore and going back even further someone like Buck Shelford would have properly sorted him out..just doesnt happen these days.


 
Posted : 24/11/2016 6:02 pm
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Article on Beeb about Jones talking up Daley as the next Jason Robinson 😯

Ends with this...wtf is he on about? Put the crack pipe down Eddie

Jones added: "Elliot has become a lot more serious about his rugby. He's been blessed with talent. He's a public schoolboy, holds up the trophy, has beautiful manicured hair."


 
Posted : 25/11/2016 7:42 am
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I came on to post just that comment - great line by Eddie 😆

Not sure he's the 'next Jason Robinson' though - I thought that was Wade?


 
Posted : 25/11/2016 12:36 pm
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Sure some in Irish Media are bleating although most also mention Sexton could have gone to the bin for his tackle attempt on BB and Trimble should have gone to the bin for a deliberate knock on. Every commentator said the best team won. Citing commissioners said the tackle on Zebo should have been red. A Stat quoted in the press from the Rugby Championship by Australian Matt Williams which may or may not be true.

For every 11 penalties South Africa gave away they got a yellow card.
For every 12 penalties Australia gave away they got a yellow card.
For every 43 penalties New Zealand gave away they got a yellow card.


 
Posted : 25/11/2016 3:19 pm
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Ospreys put it to Glasgow


 
Posted : 25/11/2016 11:27 pm
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All the best teams need a very hard edge. You can't dominate world rugby with 15 super chaps. You need a bit of mongrel too.

The Irish are whinging because they suddenly find themselves supping at the top table and now feel they have something to lose rather than being plucky underdogs. I think I preferred the latter incarnation.

Not sure he's the 'next Jason Robinson' though - I thought that was Wade?

I thought it was Anthony Watson?

Daly would make a great fullback in the Ben Smith mould. Except with better hair.


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 9:36 am
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Haven't got time for three matches today

So easy choice with the early matches, but which one of the latter two. Tough call.

Did someone put onions in the Argie changing room?


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:28 pm
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I will watch the French game but I imagine it will be carnage.

Interesting comment (marketing 😉 ) from Woodward today, given how poor RSA are (losing to Italy) today will be England's biggest test.


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:31 pm
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Go Georgia!


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:36 pm
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Not the best start fron Jason Robinson II. At least his hair looked good as he trudged off!!


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:42 pm
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🙂


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:43 pm
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How was his fake tan? You must be enjoying watching Brown's break!!!


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:53 pm
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tough call that. If you want the chaser to take responsibility for their action and the safety of their opponent, the outcome is secondary. Can see not red but the action was the same so surely has to be yellow.


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 3:58 pm
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Game of rugby expected soon


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 4:01 pm
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Still despite scrappy play 9:0

Law may be an ass, but IT IS the law so can't complain about the two high tackle decisions.

Will be a good test test now


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 4:06 pm
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Ref got both decisions bang on IMO. I thought he would yellow the argie but he resisted it..the other one with the knock on got what he deserved though. Ref has been good.


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 4:20 pm
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not covering himself in glory with these scrums mind!


 
Posted : 26/11/2016 4:26 pm
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The ref was correct, but the law is an ass.


 
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