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Fun last 5 !!!
Red/TMO did a good job - and it was Hogg so that must have swayed them 😉
Murray gets the last laugh - karma
Fun to watch if not the best quality. Credit to both teams for efforts.
I thought the yellow card should have been a pen try too as the cover was only able to make the tackle due to the player going down from the high shot. Still it was a cracking try to finish it. Cant stand Munster normally but even I wouldnt begrudge them a win this season.
Shocking first half from Leicester in Paris - hard to see them coming back from 22 - 3 down!
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As a Tigers fan, I'm hoping Munster beat Glasgow. Preferably without Glasgow getting a bonus point. Then IF Tigers get a win in Paris it leaves them with a slim chance of getting through.....Then it's all set for a Munster v Leicester final, where we will bring Neil Back in as a specialist scrum coach!!!
Hmmm!! 🙄
Perhaps Munster might have had pen try but overall ref was excellent in a niggly game. Munster have a great chance for a home quarter but hard to see them go any further than semis even with my most red tinted specs on.
Murray needs to get used to that treatment, forwards need to protect him better at ruck time.
That's quite a poor effort from Leicester as Racing have been terrible this season.
Adam Jones, give us a smile mate 🙂
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That weird! I posted a reply to THM's remark on Hogg by pointing out Murray is a bigger tool and it has gone...guess repeating it will get me a break?
Racing have not been terrible - ~Glasgow played fantastically well to beat them home and away - some of the best rugby by a club team I have ever seen.
What did you say? I didn't see it either....although I get the gist.
I was at the Harlequins v Edinburgh game - great, if unexpected, win for Edinburgh.
I've decided to adopt Harlequins as my London team though - it's a great set-up at The Stoop.
I said that Hogg's admitted muppetry was thrown into the shade by Murray and suggested Murray was rather brave by confronting Gray,who had nothing to do with the handbags, in the post match handshake.
And that disappeared ????
He was brave, true! Still he (Murray) had the last laugh after being targeted so much, so we know who was the happier.
When I played the post match handshake was normally a cordial affair with past "events" quickly forgotten.
I've decided to adopt Harlequins as my London team though - it's a great set-up at The Stoop.
Agreed. Keep an eye out for friendly/international games, too. Saw Quins v Samoa a few years ago. Great night out.
Aye THM,that's what annoyed me the most, I loved that game,and why Glasgow are letting Strauss go I can't understand, but at the end of it be a rugby man. In other news; 9 being targeted by back row non-shocker, good to see Townsend despite being an artist on the pitch can see the importance of strangling other side's creativity and set a team up accordingly.
strangling other side's creativity
Creativity and Munster...two words that dont sit easily together!!
Townsend would have been better off working on maul defence, lineouts, rucking defenders on elbows off the ball and box kick reception than worry about Munster running round them!
R U OK HUN?
Arse
Wales' two favourite Englishmen combine to nick a draw!!!
Not as good as yesterday but still fun!!
That was some stupid slap - the poor Scarlets player' s legs just went to jelly. Concussed? I hope they check him out properly.
Agreed Ducks - Strauss played well yesterday
Fair result tbh. Few observations, if Davies hadnt gone down would Wales have got the pen? Pisses me off. Second after Ashtons try he started chopsing off. The player who looked most like hitting him was one of his own forwards! Thirdly even with injuries the Saracens bench is light years ahead of of the Scarlets bench. Fourthly that is a bloody good result for Scarlets and they have done well in this group considering the relative budgets compared to Saracens, Toulon and even Sale
Thought I'd look to see if Halfpennys form has improved. Switch on to see him trudge off with a yellow!
Anyone else think the Toulon hooker dived over the sale prop (Longbottom?) and that should never have been a yellow car?
Neutral but that's twice (last was against Saracens) I've seen Sale hard done by with a Yellow card they didn't deserve in the last 10 when (arguably) on the verge of creating an upset.
Surely leaping out of a tackle is at least a penalty offence?
(yes, I'm a Sale fan)
Surely leaping out of a tackle is at least a penalty offence?
AFAIK there's nothing wrong with jumping into tackles but they made the point on BT Sport tonight that the defender had his arms coming out to make the tackle and the guy jumped over so it shouldn't have been a penalty and the TMO shouldda given the ref some help.
Anyone else think the Toulon hooker dived over the sale prop (Longbottom?) and that should never have been a yellow car?
Agreed, it was a bit harsh. I can only think it was as the tackler didn't use his arms at all. Just a head first lunge.
Toulon look looked decent enough but can't see them doing too much in the ko stages. Lovely miss pass from Nonu for the last try.
Jumping into a tackle comes under dangerous play,it seemed a harsh card to bin the tackler.
Ive seen a couple of yellows this weekend, where the player being tackled has jumped, tilted & dropped on a shoulder - without a doubt playing for ayellow
If you haven't seen it yet, Andrew Coombs is not happy with ther Dragons. Seems he's getting billed for treatment that the club should have paid for.
Is it the[s] club [/s] region or their insurer? Shit situation all round
Neil Fissler is reporting that a Sale player is to face a disciplinary panel tomorrow for leaking team tactics/info/calls to Bristol before the recent game.
Bristol coach heard boasting about it after the game, and now has allegedly grassed the player up to Sale.
Massive if true, player will lose his lovely good & surely Bristol will face some form of sanction?
I've heard names but won't repeat them til tomorrow.
Talk of a family connection.......
I hope this isn't true for all concerned, particularly the sale fans, and indeed us if the club gets sanctioned.
:roll:'livelyhood' even..
This has the potential to wreck Bristol's hopes of staying in the Prem - or Sale's!
Sale fans are NOT happy right now & certain names getting a lot of air time.
Bristol Post have named the player as Tom Arscott - who's brother Luke plays for Bristol.
Tom Arscott is out of contract at the end of the season, has he been trying to get a berth at Brizz?
Just printed on numerous sites that it is indeed Tom Arscott, no prizes for guessing who he told....
He's been at biz before, if we go down, he'd be a welcome addition. If we stay up then probably not.
Bristol rugby have tweeted;
The Club are absolutely confident of no wrongdoing in this matter and will fully co-operate with the investigation.
Apparently the Brizz coach was heard gloating after the match that Brizz had the inside info before the game.
That's pretty damning if true & may well mean Brizz face a sanction.
Don't think Mr Arscott will want to face the squad tomorrow..
That's pretty damning if true & may well mean Brizz face a sanction.
If true.....
Bets on a contact session that wasn't on the training schedule taking place at Sale today?
You gotta wonder just how much info they got.
TV analysis will show you how the opposition and individual players play, teams tend to stick to running patterns they've practised. A new move might catch you off guard but then it would anyway.
Rumours surfacing that Bristol informed sale what had happened and the telegraph saying that there will not be an official investigation.
All rumour of course.
TA hasn't had a contract renewal so he may be bitter and could be facing a long old ban, if not then the champ or D2 will probably be the best he could hope for.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38649131
No real surprises here, I suppose. AWJ as captain is the right call. (Lions, too?) Good to see the uncapped contingent as well.
Second row will be the most hotly contested position, is he certain of starting for the lions test side?
I wouldn't have him in the starting side....
Itoje for captain as per Martin Johnson? I wonder what odds...
Itoje would be my outside pick as captain!
AWJ is on good form, very consistent, and a proven captain.
Wales 2017 Six Nations squadForwards: Scott Andrews (Cardiff Blues), Nicky Smith (Ospreys), Rob Evans (Scarlets), Rhodri Jones (Ospreys), Tomas Francis (Exeter Chiefs), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Kristian Dacey (Cardiff Blues), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Jake Ball (Scarlets), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Rory Thornton (Ospreys), Luke Charteris (Bath Rugby), Cory Hill (Newport Gwent Dragons), James King (Ospreys), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Olly Cracknell (Ospreys), Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby), Taulupe Faletau (Bath Rugby), Sam Warburton (Cardiff Blues), Thomas Young (Wasps).
Backs: Gareth Davies (Scarlets), Rhys Webb (Ospreys), Aled Davies (Scarlets), Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Sam Davies (Ospreys), Owen Williams (Leicester Tigers), Jamie Roberts (Harlequins), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Ashton Hewitt (Newport Gwent Dragons), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), Steffan Evans (Scarlets), George North (Northampton Saints), Liam Williams (Scarlets) Leigh Halfpenny (Toulon).
Usual mix of some good players on form, some good players with no form/injured and some real dross. Quite what Cuthbert needs to do to be dropped is beyond me. Feel sorry for him. He needs some time out of the spotlight.
Wot? No Keenan Giles?
I think he may be injured. Limped off at weekend apparently.
How does Owen Williams get a look in? Big boot (from the tee) and poor game management - plus he's just signed for Gloucester?
How does Owen Williams get a look in? Big boot (from the tee) and poor game management
Anscombe is injured and Sammy Davies Junior is not ready yet. Players based abroad can be picked if they havent been offerred a contract in Wales so Charteris, Dai Young junior and maybe Williams dont count as one of the 3 wild cards I think.
Various reports online that Arscott has been suspended by Sale....clicked on the beeb one and it says in there that Arscott was suspended on 4th January!
It's turning in to and absolute arse of a season for Sale 🙁
Dan Carter would appear to no longer be the best paid AB in France....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/38660827
In my view, you can't captain the Lions until you have toured with them and second row very competitive - outstanding candidates in all four countries.
Ben Ryan joining the WRU as a consultant. Woop!
Good to see Thomas Young getting some recognition for his very good form at the moment. Ryan is indeed quite a capture for the WRU.
Sounds like Kruis and the Hask will be fit for France. Big worry is that quite a few of the pack will be short of game time - Hartley, Kruis and the Hask. The scrum is an area that I expect France will dominate, which is tine if we take Japan's approach and get the ball out ASAP..
Scotland looks to have picked a good squad; on,y real issue for them is LH with Nel a doubt. This year looks like it'll be very competitive and close.
'tis a good Scotland Squad with a nice mix. I don't know why Gilcrest is in there tho and can someone give us another 10 please? I am particularly pleased to see Watson in.
In my view, you can't captain the Lions until you have toured with them and second row very competitive - outstanding candidates in all four countries.
I suspect a certain Mr Johnson may disagree!
real issue for them is LH with Nel
I thought Nel was a tighthead?
Look on the bright side Wales have both Scott Andrews and Rhodri Jones in their squad!!
Nel is a tighthead. Zanderson is his backup then its Jon welsh. A 20 yr old and a guy playing for newcastle who has never quite been international standard
Its the usual problem for Scotland tho strength in depth. Loose our first chice and the replacements are often much poorer. Some players ( Russell. J Gray) are so critical that if they are injured our chances drop dramatically.
Bit like Wales. Andrews and Jones struggle to get on the bench for Blues and Ospreys!!!
I suspect a certain Mr Johnson may disagree!
He was on the 1993 tour, albeit as a replacement so I am not convinced he would.
I think if England played their first team against their second team then it would be a tight hard fought contest. If Scotland did the same it could be a massacre.
He was on the 1993 tour, albeit as a replacement
Ah yes, I forgot that!
Arscott has had his contact terminated.
Nel is a tighthead. Zanderson is his backup then its Jon welsh. A 20 yr old and a guy playing for newcastle who has never quite been international standard
My bad - not sure why I thought he was a LH. It's been a long week!
But Welsh's chip and chase is pretty good as displayed the other week!
With Eddie Jones' England squads you always know what you're going to get. It's evolution rather than revolution. Shows consistency and an understanding of player development/progress.
He's already paving the way for Mike Brown moving aside for Watson/Daly and we knew Ellis Genge would be back in to compete for the loosehead spot in the absence of Vunipola/Marler.
A stark contrast with the SL era - where we never knew what he was thinking (and neither did he).
ForwardsNathan Catt (Bath), Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Dan Cole (Leicester ), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Ellis Genge (Leicester), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton), Dylan Hartley (Northampton), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Tommy Taylor (Wasps), Mike Williams (Leicester), Tom Wood (Northampton)
Backs
Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Alex Lozowski (Saracens), Jonny May (Gloucester), Jack Nowell (Exeter), Henry Slade (Exeter), Ben Te’o (Worcester), Anthony Watson (Bath), Marland Yarde (Harlequins), Ben Youngs (Leicester)
BBC reporting that Nel is out of the 6N.
Jones has named a squad without too many surprises. The three uncapped players probably deserve their call although I've never been hugely convinced by Catt.
Only name I'd have liked in there is Robson.
Mike Catt? 😆 😯
Only name I'd have liked in there is Robson.
Would agree with that because he's been very good for Wasps, but the Youngs / Care combo hasn't been too shabby of late.
No, but I expected to see 3 No9s named.
James Short of Exeter and Roko have reason to feel a bit seen off. Both offer more than Yarde and May IMHO.
We don't look too well stocked in the back row, Harrison isn't international class and I'm not convinced by Clifford either.
Both Robson and Simpson should have had more chances so far, but barring an injury I can't see them getting a look in.
No, but I expected to see 3 No9s named.
I don't think EJ has ever named 3 No9s in any final squads.
James Short of Exeter and Roko have reason to feel a bit seen off. Both offer more than Yarde and May IMHO.
I agree on Yarde but EJ likes him because he once ran over Ritchie McCaw a few years ago - but nothing much else in credit that I can see.
Disagree on May - he's bulked up a little and improved his defending a lot and he's seriously quick.
Don't agree on Roko either - great carrying but never looks for support and flipping lazy running off the ball. Compare his workrate to Nowell (or Ashton) and he'd be nowhere.
I'd rather see Wade in there or Ashton (if he wasn't going to France).
So, is anyone going to be watching the 6N on ITV then?
Despite it all, surely the Beeb are the better option?
So, is anyone going to be watching the 6N on ITV then?
I don't think there is any option. Aren't some games on BBC and some ITV?
Apparently not.
http://www.rbs6nations.com/mobile/en/liveontv.php#Uq4lWOFTd50Vs0fx.97
Looks as if anything that's on ITV is on the Beeb as well.
H = highlights
7/8 split for live games
(H) ? Highlights? As in not live?
eg Scotland Ireland live on BBC , highlights on ITV
Next one reversed
Ahhhh! I see. Bugger.
****ing hate ITV world cup stuff 😕
Bugger - VeePee out is a big blow - Zoolander is a decent replacement altho very young and inexperienced. But the sub is going to have to be Angela who is barely international class.
(W.P.Nel. Zander Fagerson, Jon Welsh)