My view - its not really the players. It the tactics. If you kick everything in your own half always it makes life easy for your opponents. Aus could kick long on restarts knowing it would be kicked back giving them possession. Aus full back is very good - so what do wales do - keep on kicking the ball to him. Wales in attack very predictable and slow. HOw many times did the welsh scrum half hesitate when the ball was available at the back of the ruck. I think this is because he knows the pattern they are supposed to play in and he has to wait for the pattern to form.
The coach needs to give these players the license to mix it up and to play what they see in front of them - not just play to a set pattern and he needs to allow them to counter attack. Wales could do with at least one wing with real pace as well.
OK - Our ( scotlands) turn next. I see a high scoring stuffing. Scotland will play heads up rugby and vary things a lot - but I see them leaking a bucket full of tries. 25 - 40 next week is my prediction.
My view
Is wrong, it was all down to their forwards being stronger and far more dynamic in defence and attack. They got over the gainline and so got quick ball to run against a disorganised defence whereas Wales got slow ball to hit up against a set defence. No amount of tic tacs or freeing up players to play froth can make up for being owned on the gainline.
Watch the BA BAs now - great fun
Say what yu mean AA 😉
Again in my view the reason the aus forwards made ground is speed of thought - they simply got the ball quicker so before the welsh were organised.
Again in my view
Is again wrong, quicker ball come from getting over the gainline. The welsh pack was a shambles with B Davies ineffectual, Charteris and Lydiate hopelessly out of form, Tipuric too lightweight without a platform to work off and thats before we compare the ball skills and dynamism of the two front rows.
Aye - but what I mean is the Aus guys got over the gainline because of speed of thought and pass - whereas the Welsh guys didn't because of the slowness of speed and pass. Chicken and egg
Aye - but what I mean is the Aus guys got over the gainline because of speed of thought and pass
Dont agree, it was a good old fashioned rogering up front.
Better than a rogering up the back 😉
Lovely touch from Ireland in lining up in a figure of eight to face the silly dancing.
Wales really really really missed not toby, he's one of, if not the only gainline player in the welsh pack. Just got owned at the BD, hardly tips fault, I thought he played well.
Moriarty put in a damned good shift, I'd say.
The team still missed Not Toby though, I agree.
Anyone watching Ireland / NZ - if not do so! Ireland 15-5 up, NZ have had a player in the bin and are on a team warning with 20 mins gone
Cheating team in cheating shocka!
Murray just got a pen by throwing the ball into an offside NZ player - but ref told him off for doing so
Come on Ireland, what a half!
agreed - just the spectre of 2013 is giving me the jitters...
Very very good from Ireland. Speed of thought5 and over the ground. Got NZ a bit rattled. Still 17 pts up aganst NZ is not the same as 17 pts up against anyone else.
Just seen a replay of the NZ try.
Is it a knock on from the head? If so, no try! 🙂
Is it a knock on from the head?
No. Forward off the face/head doesn't count as a knock-on.
Ireland can win this. They're right up for it.
The ABs look pretty lack lustre so far. I was surprised they left out Dagg and ALB as well as playing a flanker at lock. They're paying for it now in the tight. Barrett not looking quite so great on the back foot.
Looking forward to the 2nd half.....
Bonus point
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We can do this!
A couple of quick tries for the ABs and it's back in the melting pot!
What a game! 30-22!
A couple of quick tries
Hints of forward in both.
****ing hell, everything crossed
Geez! What did they feed Barrett Jnr on?
Looks like he got more to eat than both his brothers put together.
Somewhere in Brizzle, a small man explodes! 🙂
Nearly....so nearly..Come on!
I can't take this!
Well done Ireland! What a game!
That's the way to beat the ABs. 😀
What a great ad for rugby in the States too.
Awesome stuff. So the Lions will be Ireland plus Itoje!!!!!
Bloody brilliant!
Huge in defense, strong in mind. Bravo, Ireland! Bravo!
There's a bar called The Public House, and another called O'Toole's, downtown Chicago, which will almost certainly erupt this evening.
Mines a Guinness please!
Sorry, TJ, the taps have already run dry!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
My best mate was at the game, jealous? never
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I found some CFH hic!
That was amazing, what a game! I kept waiting for them to run out of gas but they just dug deeper and deeper.
Just woke up to the news - wow! Well done Ireland!
Wow. Ireland, what a result. Just added the repeat to record as I didn't bother watching it because I'm not Irish and thought it was a foregone conclusion.
I watched the Wales Aus game instead. Wow, Wales looked very uncompetitive, slow and generally all at sea. They gave the Aussies way to much time and made the offload and pop pads way to easy to pull off. If some of those passes had stuck it could have been even worse. The first 20 mins were unbelievable in terms of possession.
Some big names went missing; what did Lydiate actually do?
As an England fan, I'm pretty worried because they look like a much better team than when we played them in the summer plus we're missing some important players like the Hask (who had been brilliant under Jones) and Itoje who adds a lot to our breakdown work. Hmmmm.
Some big names went missing; what did Lydiate actually do?
Same as he has done for the Ospreys all season...**** all...the depressing thing is his performance was entirely predictable, same with Bradley Davies. Given injuries to Warburton and Faletau we had no one else than him to pick. And the lock stocks are even worse. Cory Hill came off the bench to replace Davies and he was quite a bit smaller than Lydiate.
Massive congratulations to Ireland, amushed NZ in the first half and had the courage and belief to see it out. Tyere will be an amazing atmosphere in Dublin next week, I do fear a rather differemt result.
NZ Priminister, John Key, summed it up well:
"If we're gonna lose - let's lose to Ireland. These people are great."
copule of thoughts to ponder
1) could we build a competitive lions team of NH qualified players who could have played for NZ ( or SH sides)
ie Hartley at hooker, Hardie in the back row, Maitland on the wing
2) has the one tonne pack been reached yet? could it be ? needs an average of 125 kgs per player ( 20 stone / 280 lb)
Is there anybody who watched it and didn't think "2013" for a while? Hard to see past Murray and Sexton,early days though it be!
Quick rugby PSA - The Barbarians twitter account is superb!
A #FactCzech - Team includes lawyers, bakers & barmen. My lawyer's lazy with a jammy dodger addiction so fair play!
