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Very much enjoyed that!


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 7:53 pm
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That’s the tournament lost for Wales. I’d like to see L Rees-Zammit get a game or two now.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 8:03 pm
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Is it me or is Jonathan Davies the most biased commentator in sport, everything Wales does is brilliant but when an opposing team scores its lucky!

Exactly.... He shouldn't be let near the mike on a Welsh match.
Singularly the most annoying commentator on the BBC.

Great game though and the thought the right team won.
If you can't score in 20 mins when the other team have less players than you then you don't deserve to win.
Re the forward pass.... looked very close to me as the French player had to take the ball behind him.
Re the deliberate knock on.... I thought he played the Welsh players forearm, not the ball, which caused the ball to be dropped.... is that still a knock on?

Edit: Johnathan Davies getting a lot of stick on the BBC website comments. Deservedly so.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 8:49 pm
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6 and 7 generally have the job of being the first defensive positions up to make a tackle following a set piece, and also being first at a breakdown to try to win turnover ball from the tackle. The openside (6) binds on the side of the scrum with the largest area of the field, and tends to be quicker, while the blindside is often bigger and bulkier.

8 has the job of controlling the ball at the base of the scrum and linking with the 9. They are typically big ball carriers so they can pick the ball from the scrum and make a break.

Hopefully that is mostly correct…

It would help if you knew which number the opensides and blindsides are, and what you’ve written was correct about 30 years ago but they all do significantly more these days.. 😉


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 8:56 pm
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Great game for the neutral. Really enjoying watching France this 6N, they look transformed.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 9:03 pm
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Turns out that when they aren't fighting each other/the coach they're a decent team.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 9:27 pm
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I noticed Pivac has become a true Welshman. "It's all the refs fault"

The scrum on the line Baba cannot have turned in as he split the Welsh front row


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 11:32 pm
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I noticed Pivac has become a true Welshman. “It’s all the refs fault”

The scrum on the line Baba cannot have turned in as he split the Welsh front row

Saw that too.

They lost out in a few right calls, suck it up and move on. This French team are looking pretty good at the mo, there’s no shame in losing to them. Edwards seems to have made a big impact.


 
Posted : 22/02/2020 11:37 pm
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I noticed Pivac has become a true Welshman. “It’s all the refs fault”

You can get quite tiresome after a very sort period. This statement really does say a lot about you. Is Eddie Jones welsh too?

This was a classic also

I loathe the playing for penalties and yellow cards in the scrums. Nice to see France get the decision in the end.

To summarise Wales cheat by pushing in the scrum!!! I expect it was Adam Jones fault he used to push in the scrums against Scotland!


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 9:11 am
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I really enjoyed the Wales v France match. Best team won on the day but very entertaining for the neutral.

It is very disappointing to hear the Welsh crowd boo the kicker. And why the Welsh players kept arguing with the ref and then start fighting isn't what you expect from the Welsh.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 9:22 am
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players kept arguing with the ref and then start fighting isn’t what you expect from the Welsh.

Have you never been to a Welsh weatherspoons before?  😉


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 9:42 am
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It is very disappointing to hear the Welsh crowd boo the kicker.

Must have been visiting Scots. It's a well known fact that only Scottish fans boo the kicker.

Jiffy explains this to us every time he's commentating at Murrayfield.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 9:44 am
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Eddie Jones is very annoying, but he never queries refs decisions when England lose. Pivac sounded like a football manager.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 11:15 am
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Until/unless the assistants start reffing to props bind and the squint drives the scrum will be a bit shit. So many plays for the penalties just makes it a bit pointless to actually scrummage. Drive straight and not pull down. Is probably what bamba did. The Welsh loosehead would be focussed on getting the penalty which mean power through his left shoulder and pivot through his core which upsets the bind to hooker. Bamba drove at the right shoulder, it's where he's meant to drive, and split the bind.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 12:03 pm
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Scrums are pretty boring imho, I’d happily see them gone somehow.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 1:51 pm
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I’m expecting an Ireland win today sadly. But I thought that last year......


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 3:58 pm
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Good start by Enhland, who is the Ireland five, he's going to get pinged for his cheapshots soon


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:13 pm
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Stander and Itoje more interested in having a fight than playing rugby.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:26 pm
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Stander and Itoje more interested in having a fight than playing rugby.

Was started by ireland five


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:27 pm
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Peyper has no control of the offside line.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:47 pm
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This is good, but it reveals how valuable Tuilagi is.  Very different team with him in it, and they need to learn to play like this without him.   Ford is on song today also.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:48 pm
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Having 3 marauders in the back row is good for England. The big question is, does it offset the lack of a big 8 to smash it up?


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:50 pm
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Was started by ireland five

Nope - started by Itoje holding him off the ball and ripping his shirt off. Should have been pen ireland for holding the man


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:50 pm
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Winning margin?


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:58 pm
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The big question is, does it offset the lack of a big 8 to smash it up?

Lawes is doing that.  I think England have worked out a way to relieve the pressure on Curry and allow him to come in as a natural seven on the follow up play.  Best of both worlds. It’s stopped Ireland exposing Curry.  Curry’s never come off the base, Ireland need to pressure Young’s at the scrum to expose that.

ive a feeling Genge is going to rip this apart in 20 mins or so, Marlers holding the scrum but Genge will tear into them.

Here we go.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 4:59 pm
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TJ - correct, but then Stander charged across the pitch and smashed into him.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:00 pm
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Nope – started by Itoje holding him off the ball and ripping his shirt off.

Nope it was started by the ireland five going for the cheap shot clearout of Itoje, Stander got involved later.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:00 pm
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Smart play by Stander running off with Faz trying to hump his leg like a randy terrier


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:11 pm
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Has Sexton put his boots on the wrong feet?


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:14 pm
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Genge 1, Ireland 0.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:25 pm
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And another cheapshot from ireland five.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:27 pm
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Ruddy awful game tho.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:31 pm
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May about 1m offside there!!


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:31 pm
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That Ireland winger on May. Late, and no arms.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:34 pm
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Scrums are pretty boring imho, I’d happily see them gone somehow.

I’d happily see them go back to putting the ball in straight so there was an alternative to playing for penalties to try and gain an advantage.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 5:56 pm
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That Ireland winger on May. Late, and no arms.

yep. Debatable pen try.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 6:11 pm
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So the big question, Wales v England who wins and will Ireland beat France?


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 6:12 pm
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Pretty good by England today.

Ireland in the first half were utter shite. They need to find a replacement for Sexton; his best days are well behind him.

Can we replicate that sort of intensity against Wales in two weeks time?


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 6:27 pm
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Interesting stats from the game...

England - Ireland

Possession: 39%-61%

Territory: 41%-58%

Metres run: 202-234

Clean breaks: 3-2

Defenders beaten: 9-15

Tackles made/attempted: 175/190 (92% success) - 97/106 (92% success)

Penalties conceded: 12-7

With those stats, you’d expect Ireland to have won.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 6:29 pm
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yep. Debatable pen try.

Yep, however May was never onside at the previous ruck so it shouldnt have counted.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 6:47 pm
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Yep, however May was never onside at the previous ruck so it shouldnt have counted.

True, but it looked like a no arms tackle to me. Henshaw made no attempt to wrap the arms.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 7:22 pm
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You’re only offside if the ref blows the whistle.....


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 7:30 pm
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You’re only offside if the ref blows the whistle…..

Indeed but had he scored, I'm pretty sure they'd have checked it, although had they gone the pen try route they might have got so involved in that they could forget. If you English are taking that as a pen try I'll take the intentional knock on as a pen try in the Wales game!!

I suspect the no arms bit was because he was trying to charge down the kick by the way!!


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 8:10 pm
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It’s completely immaterial to the outcome of the game thankfully, but it shows the complete inability of Peyper to manage the process. I hadn’t seen whether May was offside originally - if he was then it’s even worse. The whole match offside was poorly reffed.

Watching it on slo-mo, the Irish defender is upright until May kicks the ball, then he barges him & takes him out.


 
Posted : 23/02/2020 8:57 pm
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Will CJ Stander he cited this week? The end of his Itoje spat where he chased across the pitch to smash him, and punching Farrell on the floor (Farrell was holding on, but you can’t just punch people.

Is this the end for Sexton & Murray? Coney looked a different class when he came on. I wish England would blood a new 9.


 
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