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So this afternoon,hung over, sunbaked, and tired as my baby simply hates sleeping or being happy....I decided to fit the roller door with my father!
All I managed today was to fit the door and rollers - we ran out of time to actually do the wiring up (plus there's currently no power to the garage as the sparky cut those cables!!).
The things that took much longer than anticipated were:
-removing the old garage door
-thinking about how best to deal with the fact our garage seems to have been built by "Trowely McDrunkard, the wonkiest brickie in the land..."
The actual process of putting the runners against the wall, lining up, then putting the head unit on top and screwing it all into place is very straightforward if your walls/floor/lintel have come anywhere near a set-square or spirit level. Mine clearly hadn't...
We needed to SDS chisel out some of the floor, and will contemplate laying a cement 'lip' on the low side, to even things out.
Also, the brick opening was pretty wonky too, so the runners have a small gap every now and then - this'll get caulked and I may put a facia against the side brickwork.
I definitely need a new facia on the top, as now my opening is about 40cm 'back', so the lintel etc is exposed.
Anyway, here's some pictures. Excuse the mess - there's a reason messy places are referred to as a 'building site'...
THe manky old broken door. A pain to remove!
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Top class brickwork. At least the woodwork has now all gone.
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The bare opening.
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Lining the runner against the wall. At this point I marked out the fixing locations and then took them down and drilled the holes.
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Here you can see the runner with the top unit on. There's the other runner up too - essentially it's like a 'goal' that you place against the opening.
The clamps are fab in holding everything in place so you can then drill the brickwork and screw the whole lot in.
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Here's the other side:
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And the shutters coming down... (manually at the mo)
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And the view from inside. It's fab as it leaves all the remaining wall space to hang bikes from!
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DrP
Thanks DrP for updating, you made a good point about leaving space. Certainly with my Hormann there was some restriction and I had to be careful when putting stuff in the rafters as it was easy to whack the surround(?) with the ladder.
What's the sound like? Does it need maintenance? Thanks!
At present it's silent.... No power!
DrP
Ah, you've gone for the electric option?
Yeah... Key fob control...
DrP
Had a couple of horman sectionals fitted at work on Friday in anthracite grey. They do look lovely but aren't cheap. Will keep an eye on this post as the cheaper houses on the site may well have those fitted....
What's the falconry glove for?
You can get plastic quadrant to cover the brickwork gaps fit the quad then mastic it looks a lot neater.
Top work
Where should I go to see any make of roller doors on display, diy stores or where? Thanks. 🙂
What's the falconry glove for?
My dad is also Doctor Doolittle, and utilises birds of prey to help with simple DIY tasks about the house:
- falcon = tiling and garage doors
-tawny owl = paintwork
DrP
Q for DrP and/or Davewilson
How much of the £605 was delivery? I've got a garage that opens both ends and although my plan was to fit a double gazed French door/window to the far end a garage door might be more practical as it would mean I could drive right out the back if needed (i.e. once a motorbike get's past the Department for the Abatement of Fun, it'll end up stored in the rear yard). So I'm trying to figure out if two doors is a valid option.
And Dave, how much would that cost fitted? Drop me an E-mail if you don't want to discuss on here.
Quoted as free delivery.. I.e two doors = £1210 (for my measurements..).
Play with the website with your measurements..??
DrP
Cheers, hadn't found the online calculator just the paper form. Father-[s]IN[/s]-[i]Out[/i]-Law needs his doing too, so if it's a simple-ish DIY job I may end up doing 3 of them for brownie points!
Rollerdor in Norwich, I supply and fit these from £850 for the compact version , this includes 2man fitting team,removal and disposal of exist door and frame and PVC and of course any warrenty work. I'm based in Surrey but travel to coast and surrounding areas any questions just ask 07758926465
Dave.... As you can see I've fitted the door/guides etc
I've fit the 'newer' wireless safety edge control box.
I seem to be having issues with the key fobs since I installed the safety edge unit...
Before it was press one button for up..the The other for down. But now the top button seems to make it go either up or down, but it need to go all the way up before coming siren again... (I.e if you stop it halfway down, you can't continue it down..).
Hmmm... I've followed the new a4 instructions to the tee....
Ideas??! Ta!
DrP
Looking at this in more detail, it doesn't look possible to have the door [b]without[/b] remote locking. I've had remote locking before and don't want it again!
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You could just bin the remotes and operate it simply from the wired unit (though remote is the reason to get these surely?!)
DrP
The controls are all the same on the motors, so you could just buy a wired / key control unit and install that instead. Ours came with both units.
You could just bin the remotes and operate it simply from the wired unit (though remote is the reason to get these surely?!)DrP
DrP - I'm a woman. I do awkward but don't do gadgets. 😀
No-Nails the remote to the wall?
Does anyone do a cheaper non-electrical version? Either on a chain/pulley or just with a handle at the bottom? ~£1200 is proving hard to get past the exchequer.
It comes with a box you fix to the wall with up and down arrows on it...
Simples!
DrP
DrP, great pictures, thanks for those. I grew up in Worthing 🙂
Dave, do you cover SE berks? (Wokingham)
Since all the STW garage door experts are on this thread I'll ask here
The piers at the front of my garage are a bit deeper and extend well behind the lintel. If I was to mount a door as DrP has, it would be several inches into the flat garage floor and would leave a gaping hole to fill in front of the door at the top.
In this situation should I use the existing timber frame?
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So....
There you could fit the head unit behind the lintel (if there's 205mm, or have the head unit poking out slightly below) and have the runners within the face (mine are behind the face).
If I were to do that,I would do as you propose and have wood for extra support.
You can simply fix the runners to the wall, but I'd fix some 2x2 wood in, then fix the runners to that also...
DrP
got round to look at this
dont want electric.
Found "glideroll" doors.....
whats the concensus on them.
looking like 400 quid delivered.
My dads fitted a few for customers he seems to like them.
Have a Gliderol on the "other" house - 9ft wide, remote, control box, etc.
One of the few that have the "anti-jack" function.
Been faultless in the 10yrs its been fitted.
Rollerdoorsdirect - £625 delivered
glideroll are in the process of going under it would seem.
none of the companies i called would take a new order on a glideroll
Phoned rollerdor and was told singleskin roller door no good in a windy area.....
Im vergeing on sticking a set of barn doors on , simpler.
That's not good for glideroll or yourself trail_rat.
It would be helpful if Dr P could update, please Dr P. 😀 Does the zapper zap first time? Noisy or silent when opening/closing? Any tips on measuring?
It's pretty good...I think the 'weak point' of the door is the 'wireless sensor bar'.
in hindsight I'd have gone for one with a 'beam' sensor, as there's little to have to set up on that. This one needs a bit of faffing about to get the safety sensor working, and even now I'm not 100% sure I've got it set up correctly. That's the 'electronics' though.
The actual physical structure is all fine.
Fairly quiet, but it is a slow moving electric motor.
The best thing really is the lack of space it takes up, thus freeing up the wall..
DrP
Dr p,
I'm about to order one of these myself. My only question is mounting the curtain box above. How is it fixed in place?
Cheers,
Ryan
Oh I only ordered a door last Thursday and the guy from gliderol literally just called me an hour ago to say it's arriving tomorrow
My garage door gave up last weekend and I was looking for a replacement. As if by magic 🙂
It all mounts together a bit like a goal post and cross bar... Technically you could just fix the runners and the top stays in place, but I fixed my top in place too.
DrP
ooo, going to put this here for reference.
any more for anymore......
cheapo roller doors in high wind situations ? one supplier warned me off them.
and also - any decent suppliers who dont want to charge 150 quid for delivery.... ive phoned many up who are just reluctant to ship to aberdeen.......
I did find one who would do it for 60 quid but then they cancelled my order and said that glideroll were in the process of going under..... i suspect it just cost more tahn 60 quid to ship.... ballbags.
well another attempt at ordering done....after all the up and over had to be rebodged again last night with an entirely different fault this time - after it fell on mrs T-Rs head -oops
countrywide garage doors on ebay this time....
65 quid delivery for an 8ft x 7ft manual mahogany woodgrain door
If anyone wants a very cheap Hormann door then i have one as the garage is going to be knocked down - 2.7m by 2.12m white Hormann with controller etc all VVGC, garage is in wrong place (!) and being replaced. You will have to remove, fee is a donation to Jenns charities.
Missed a few posts on here recently , I've just started up on my own in the last few weeks makeanentrance.net covering Surrey Hampshire Berkshire some of east Sussex's, I also fit direct for rollerdor so if anyone needs any info or books an install with Rollerdor I may well see you soon
Well started my install after lunch today. Finished at 3.30 and bled the brakes on the truck
Things that make life easy
The hole was square.
A long level,
An sds drill
An air driven impact driver - **** doing all them 80 and 100 mm coach screws with a hand ratchet.
A mate for the lifting.
No prior experiance in doing this but honestly one of the easiest jobs i ve done on the house - if you can work a spirit level your golden.