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If Andy Street does resign, I can see quite a few of the 'Red Wall' Tory MPs chucking the towel in too
It'd only hasten their demise by a few months anyway
, I can see quite a few of the ‘Red Wall’ Tory MPs chucking the towel in too
not sure HS2 is that popular woth red waller brexiter types theyre chasing, what it says about tory commitment to investment in North may have a bigger impact, tho
Whats very interesting is what the UKIPisation of the Tories means in the blue wall- opens up a lot if space for the Lib Dems
The mp's won't resign. They get paid more if thrown out at a general election compared to resignation.
No way will any of them resign
not sure HS2 is that popular woth red waller brexiter types
I think it's now past the discussion of its actual needs or worth or use. It's become a symbol and and a totem that everyone right or left who lives north of Birmingham can gather around to point out that this govt doesn't give a shit about levelling up; the landmark policy, that folks up and down the country lent their votes to the Tories over. And will never believe a word that the Tories say about this sort of social policy for years to come.
They get paid more if thrown out at a general election compared to resignation.
It doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/aug/25/financial-support-double-mps-lose-seats-uk-election
If they feel certain that they will loose their seat it might make sense for them to avoid the humiliation of defeat.
He’s got all the power, without any of the responsibility
If he stands on a Conservative ticket at the next election, surely that'll be with any eye on 10 years of being paid to cause trouble without doing any work on the opposition benches? Just like his time in the European parliament.
And will never believe a word that the Tories say about this sort of social policy for years to come.
Thats the rub that Rishi doesn't seem to get. Its the final straw. We'll never believe a word they say ever again
He's going to come out with some pile of old bollocks about road improvements, rail upgrades or whatever and he'll be met with a collective "yeah, right...." because we all know we'll be as likely to see them materialise as Borises 40 new hospitals. Does anyone even mention them nowadays? Its all just more meaningless pie-in-the-sky bullshit promises that will disappear into the ether as fast as the last lot
If they feel certain that they will loose their seat it might make sense for them to avoid the humiliation of defeat.
If that was the concern the best option would be to announce they arent standing again. Then just chill out and start job hunting whilst keeping the paychecks rolling in. Just like Johnson did up until the point he would have been held accountable.
Thats the rub that Rishi doesn’t seem to get.
To be fair they have been lying for years. What makes this one so special?
That seems to be for starting in role until an election but not standing.
Not sure if resignation before an election would count
To be fair they have been lying for years. What makes this one so special?
As lies go, this is a really, really big one. They won the last election on the back of it*
* discounting Jeremy Corbyn, obvs
With Beeching there were at least actual railway lines that got axed.. They've excelled themselves by axing one that hasn't even been finished.
"Welcome aboard the conservative train to oblivion. This train terminates at the next election"
Other futures were available. The ****s
Why oh why can't these people do something good for once. Just one thing. It's not like it's even hard
Its being reported that Andy Street has stayed at the conference in order to resign straight after Rishi's speech if the announcement is what everyone expects.
Apparently he's absolutely apoplectic
To be fair they have been lying for years. What makes this one so special?
Because this is huge.
This is literally all the investment in the north for the next 20+ years, hanging on the delivery of a fast rail line.
The lines across the Pennines don't work without it. The massive issues with lack of capacity right across the north aren't addressed without it. Levelling up doesn't happen without it.
40 new hospitals can be hidden with a bit of creativity about "well we did up the maternity ward" and "well there's a new children's wing".
You can't hide the rather glaring lack of a rail line.
You can’t hide the rather glaring lack of a rail line
Or the fact that the Pennine route upgrade hasn't happened, or the Leeds City transport plan, or the Piccadilly expansion, all the while the Elizabeth line gets signed off, goes way over budget, gets built and gets opened.
Is this going to be worse than when Theresa May lost her voice and the set fell apart?
davros
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Is this going to be worse than when Theresa May lost her voice and the set fell apart?
This is going to be worse than Theresa May's "dancing"
May dancing was funny, at least she knew how to laugh at herself. It was a joke, wasn't it?... After she did some awkward dancing with children somewhere overseas.
Everyone clap for the millionaire! Isn't she just a lovely normal lady.
He’s sent his wife out as the warm up act
Christ on a bike! 😳
These are pretty good
https://twitter.com/Savanta_UK/status/1709152255675334796?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
https://twitter.com/Savanta_UK/status/1709486010168451467?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Well for everyone except the tories
One word to sum him up? She used aspiration but I shouted something else at the tele!
My husband has no idea what I'm going to say - Sunak's wife
Utter, utter bollocks . . . I bet she's about the cancel HS2 so he doesn't have to
Is this some kind of joke?
WTF cares what his Mrs thinks?
I think she's trying to humanise him. It won't work. We know he's a robot lizard.
I feel slightly dirty watching it on their YT channel but this is going to be a proper car crash and I've got the free time so watching them implode is worth it.
Do you think he'll mention the hedge fund years... or jump straight from childhood to being PM?
WTF cares what his Mrs thinks?
Multi millionaire who has spent the last few weeks avoiding anyone but family and SPADS?
Christ - he’s literally just said his parents instilled in him the importance of honouring your promises. Is he for real?
Jesus H Corbett! He's banging on about Jeremy Corbyn again 🙄
Switched over, thanks.
Is he for real?
Lie often and lie big. Its the new tory way.
Lasted about ten seconds before shouting one of the asterixed words from that Savanta word cloud and giving up.
Is he for real?! All those issues are what his party has been doing for the whole time!
They’ve all been briefed to get ready to start clapping when his tone and emphasis changes, no matter if they think what he’s actually saying at the time is worthy of applause or not 🙄
That he has refused, point blank, to meet any politicians or business leaders.
To be fair, he's probably chatted to his wife about it. And his father in law.
There is no way I could watch him. I would put a brick through my brand new TV.
Absolutely despise the useless smug cretin.
He's solved the net zero problem apparently
So he wants to halve the inflation figure that his party increased by 5x? Oh and there's the Maggie name drop.
Can't be arsed watching after the 20p Enoch Powell tribute act yesterday. They're out at the next election anyhow, it's guaranteed. Only the diehard BLUEKIPPers / Mail / Express readers that I know still think they're doing ok. They've lost the moderate Tory vote and Red Wall. All they have left is throwing feces and breaking everything in sight (not like there's much left to break) so that the incoming Labour government have a hell of a job on their hands.
When's he going to say something of any substance?