With the 44 vs 62 age thing, Starmer should just reply that Sunak won't grow any more in the intervening 18 years, so he can stop hoping and keep wearing the Cuban heels.
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<p style="padding-left: 40px;">Came here to post the dories poll</p>
The independent candidate bit unpredictable & obviously has the potential to gift labour , but that really should be the safest of Tory seats
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1675447694905450496?t=XiP3VEdAI2QL46vidX8tIw&s=19
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I don't understand the appeal of the independent in Mid Bedfordshire, I can't find anything to explain it.
By-elections have traditionally been fertile ground for the LibDems, as voters feel that they can afford to register a protest vote against the two main parties.
But despite always coming a very strong second in the constituency right up until Nick Clegg decided to go into coalition with the Tories, the LibDems since then have come third in every general election, and now look at possibly coming fourth after an independent.
There would appear to be voter dissatisfaction with all three main political parties.
Whilst +6% would be a good result for Labour when considered in the context of -36% for the Tories it doesn't exactly suggest a ringing endorsement of the Labour Party, more a total collapse of support for the Tories, with the LibDems not really benefiting at all.
Even 30p Lee is turning on him now. I think he wants machine gun posts on Kent beaches…
Red wall Tory MPs put pressure on Sunak over net migration
What’s even more surprising is that the Tories favourite sexual deviant Chris Pincher is still an MP.
Now that must be a crowded field although in fairness to the tory he has had the whip removed (although is still a party member).
There is a standard committee investigation in progress so its possible he might get the ten day suspension which allows a recall byelection. Otherwise he will stay collecting the cash as long as possible.
Has Mad Nad actually resigned yet?
Or is she going to just carry on picking up her MPs salary while not bothering to turn up and actually do anything?
But fiscally the state gets called on time and time again to prop and support the private sector, which can’t exist without the state.
When times are good – low interest rates, liquidity, jobs etc everyone’s trying to protect their capital – when times are duff we look to the state for a solution.
At the beginning of Covid a very vocal Tory supporting acquaintance was complaining about the lack of Govt support for him in the small business sector. He was not happy about my (true) commentary that he was a total believer in "laissez faire" Govt AND that he probably didn't really financially contribute to society, so why should the rest of us bail him out, when he certainly wouldn't bail anyone else out.
Even 30p Lee is turning on him now. I think he wants machine gun posts on Kent beaches…
He thinks that will be enough to shore up support anongst his more cretinous constituents. He may well be right - I've been to Ashfield a fair few times. 😳
I love the logic of 'The New Conservatives' (is it just me who thinks even that name somehow has sinister-sounding connotations?)
The actual problem: a chronic labour shortage in certain sectors (entirely self-inflicted, caused entirely by something they all enthusiastically supported), leading to massive understaffing
Their solution: less immigration
There are water melons with a better grasp on reality than these clowns, and could probably come up with better solutions
Anyway... Rishi is so week and so scared of them, I expect we'll get an announcement sometime on Wednesday with him pathetically caving in to the demands of these headcases
He may well be right – I’ve been to Ashfield a fair few times. 😳
Be nice - the number of people admitted to hospital from getting stuck to the glass bus stops when we had the cold snap was horrendous
There are water melons with a better grasp on reality than these clowns, and could probably come up with better solutions
What solutions - like "train more people"?
I love the logic of ‘The New Conservatives’ (is it just me who thinks even that name somehow has sinister-sounding connotations?)
I did immediately think New Conservative was a cover for "Even More Batshit and Right Wing Conservative"
New Conservative just sounds like a less sinister version of neocon to me. And a tad more British.
Starmer is 62? He looks good for his age. All those rucks at the footy must be keeping him young. Nothing like smacking about a few headhunters between the station and the ground to get the blood pumping.
new cons, new statesman
Most of them are in at risk seats, this is a pretty poor effort to try & cling on to them
https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1675836360723243011
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1675849000841355264
New turd, new glitter.
Except, in reality, neither the turd nor the glitter are particularly new.
They've just spent a lot of money on consultants to pretend it is.
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It's true, though. I saw the female Doctor and immediately defrauded the NHS of £200m for duff PPE. Wokeism is to blame.
The Lava Tories would have been more appropriate for that bunch of turds.
As a designer, that new logo confirms my long held belief that all right leaning people are visually illiterate and any design produced by them is absolutely bloody awful!
They’ve obviously tried to do something different from the standard Union Jack/primary colours/blocky capital letters and arrived at a truly hideous result.
I expected them to come up with something more dynamic and forceful.
binners
As a designer, that new logo confirms my long held belief that all right leaning people are visually illiterate and any design produced by them is absolutely bloody awful!They’ve obviously tried to do something different from the standard Union Jack/primary colours/blocky capital letters and arrived at a truly hideous result.
As much as it's probably only you and me here who get wound up by this stuff, I can only agree.
It's nonsensical, unbalanced and awful looking, and doesn't convey any coherent graphic message that I can read.
It’s nonsensical, unbalanced and awful looking, and doesn’t convey any coherent
graphicmessage that I can read.
Perfect for the job, then.
As a designer, that new logo confirms my long held belief that all right leaning people are visually illiterate and any design produced by them is absolutely bloody awful!
My brother used to work for an advertising agency that had a reputation of being the people you come to last when everyone else has turned you down 🙂 The Scottish Conservatives and the Fox Hunting lobby were amongst their clients. Probably designed some of the material you're thinking about - but not with a great deal of sympathy. Quite enjoyed giving people three options, with a terrible one, and unsurprisingly have the intentionally awful one being the one the client loved.
I don't know what you're all so confused about. The logo clearly represents the last tree in England about to be shredded by the forces of free enterprise. It sums up perfectly what they're about.
Reminded me of the section in the Olympics 2012 opening ceremony where the tree gets torn down to make way for a load of industrial chimneys. So right on brand, apart from the lack of manufacturing in UK Plc.
19 mins in here:
Probably the kind of post-Brexit working conditions they're pitching for:
The cog is trying far too hard to tell people that they're "for the workers" (when obviously they're not)... the first thing it reminded me of was...
[ DAF ]
Hiya,
I'm all for as many nutter factions in the Tory's all trying to be more mad than Nad, at each iteration.
I had a theory on threads like this in most forums to cause as much consternation and split of the anyone daring to vote anything but the blue turd of a party. I mean for gods sake we are the party of true stability law and order the blue rinse and lining our own pockets, after all. Believe all the news etc and have another 4 years of the need to complain about Rich Tea haunted pencil and the party that seems to mirroring Enoch Powell. The Alternative may not be great, but you can hope, well hops for something vaguely better than what we have.
JeZ
They are just unremittingly awful, awful, people. Their only attention to detail is when it comes to casual cruelty:
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1676149168572596224
I’m all for as many nutter factions in the Tory’s all trying to be more mad than Nad, at each iteration.
Hahahaha the Republicans nominated Trump lol he's useless, they're toast at the election!
We should be careful what we wish for...
I’ve just stumbled across a Tory MP called Miriam Cates who looks to be going full on fascist before inevitably losing her seat in 18 months time. Apparently blaming those pesky brown folks for taking all the opportunities from young people to work in the care sector
Now the failed logic of this, given a youth could get a job in the care sector tomorrow if they so desired given its so chronically understaffed, is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
What I can’t work out is why even come out with this. Even the most ardent Tory bigot surely knows this is absurd. Surely the number of undecided voters who will fall for this rubbish is tiny. Yes Brexit has proven that lots of folks are gullible, and this is just another ‘blame the immigrants’ line from the tories. But this one is probably the most illogical thing I’ve heard yet given a five year old could pick holes in it. Anyone who would even give this notion the time of day is surely so far gone to the right that their vote is cast in stone already. Yes it may attract a few loons from the ultra right, but surely that number is dwarfed by the amount of folks it will push the other way.
or am I underestimating the intelligence of the uk voting base that much..
Now the failed logic of this, given a youth could get a job in the care sector tomorrow if they so desired given its so chronically understaffed, is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
What's logic got to do with it? I've been told the answer is...
- "British" women should be made to have more kids
- Those kids should then be discouraged from pursuing further or higher education
- We can then train them to work in care, health, agriculture, whatever
Simple. Don't think about timespans. Don't think about what young women and their kids might want from life. Just stop the foreigners coming here and whip the young and still not yet born British into shape... they've all gone soft.
[ for full clarity, I don't agree with any of that, but that's what you hear ]
Slimy grifter Sunak showing utter disdain for correct parliamentary procedure yet again, he really is a ****ing **** of the highest standing and given the chance I’d love to pin him down and slap that face till I got a genuine and truthful answer
I came to post that
Sunak is just do bad at it all
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1676235167038316549?t=xbop578MsUaTl0U5Wm6utg&s=19
he really is a * * of the highest standing and given the chance I’d love to pin him down and slap that face till I got a genuine and truthful answer
You might be slapping him for a LONG time!
He's from the Boris school of lying. You can safely assume that most of what he says is a lie. He knows he's lying as well but when called out on it he gets angry that his lie has been discovered so lies to hide the lie. Then prevaricates a bit.
Oh THAT report?!
Obviously I thought you meant the OTHER report.
Honestly, a kid at school lying about his homework can lie better than Sunak can.
The stupid thing is that when lying like that and when caught out like that, you just appear really dumb. I'm sorry. I had no idea which report you were questioning me about, in spite of being called here to talk about that specific report.
get the feeling he's becoming universally despised on both the left and right.
He knows exactly what he’s doing as he smirks throughout the grilling, my mum used to have a phrase for when i misbehaved that I think is apt for this situation.
I’ll wipe that smirk off your face with the back of my hand.
Personally, I’d wipe that smirk from his face and send him to his private dentist with a clenched fist.
As an irrelevant aside, he does look a lot like Tony Blair in that clip. I'd never really noticed.
I commented on this thread a while back that he had become notably Blair-esque in his tone, delivery and mannerisms and it was obviously a studied and deliberate thing
Sunak has the self-assured smug smile of a man who has never and will never have to actually be amongst us plebs. Johnson, Gove, Sunak, Braverman, Jenrick - so many faces and I've only got two fists. It would be a dilemma if I ever got the opportunity.
he probably thinks it's a vote winner as the daily fail readership don't believe in anthropomorphic climate change.
The equivalent of husky-hugging Dave’s ‘drop the green crap!’?
Party of Rapacious Capitalists in Not Giving a Shit About the Environment Shocka!
I commented on this thread a while back that he had become notably Blair-esque in his tone, delivery and mannerisms and it was obviously a studied and deliberate thing
Yes, I know. I studied that comment and have now embarked on a deliberate course of action to become New Binners. I'll be moaning about design and discussing Northern things shortly.
Who else likes barms and brown ale?