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It does. I can get into Manchester easily, like I already said.
What you actually said was:
For the rest of us who live in the real world where public transport is virtually non-existent, not a ****ing chance!
You then complained that there was an hourly, unreliable bus to Manchester. Now you're saying that you can get there easily. It's almost as though you're making stuff up to prove a point.
If Tories are hated so much then I think there's a fair discussion to be made about why it's such a misguided idea for Starmer to indulge in Conservatism.
In a Sunak thread.
Entirety contextual.
The trap has always been making debate about personality rather than policy.
Oh forget it. Whats the point? The usual suspects derail yet another thread 🙄
First you made up a story about your public transport, now you're flouncing when it's called out. Not very edifying, is it?
most people have decided the current government are hopelesss (that’s a polite mimmum description), and have moved vote already
Maybe the question is: at this point, what's the big policy that Labour could adopt that would win more net votes across the electorate? I'm not sure there is anyone left to be stolen from the other parties who isn't unmoveable.
Labour's bigger problem will be turnout...
interestingly Tories quietly confident of winning both by elections this be week
I cant say for Tamworth but I can definitely see them holding mid beds, I grew up nearby and its about as Tory as you can imagine
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1713103328618389641?t=68qlWErwnA5SocvDUu4z7g&s=19
Go re-read the first post binners made. It makes sense.
There's plenty we could debate without making stuff up.
reality of the public transport options available to millions and millions of people in this country, who unlike TJ don’t live in their countries capital city
Imagine having an inferiority complex to Edinburgh because it's a capital city (lol) when Manchester has five times the population.
Are those suggesting autonomous cars aware of who will be using them?
The Great British Public.
The first weekend they are in use will have most of them covered/filled with all manner of bodily fluids/stomach & colon contents. Handy if you are the person using that ‘service’. Less handy if you are the person discovering it on the next go.
That or vandalised to oblivion
They could have video and audio recording, like dashcams, internal and external. they could also be a bit like hire cars, if you so much as sneeze on them, they company will raid your bank account, as you'd have to sign up for some sort of account/subscription to use them in the first place.
Also, this is a timley news article 😀
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-electric-cars-sunak-uk-eu-b2428577.html
Are those suggesting autonomous cars aware of who will be using them?
The Great British Public.
The first weekend they are in use will have most of them covered/filled with all manner of bodily fluids/stomach & colon contents. Handy if you are the person using that ‘service’. Less handy if you are the person discovering it on the next go.
That or vandalised to oblivion
Why are you acting like Zipcar doesn't already exist?
interestingly Tories quietly confident of winning both by elections this be week
They should be. They’ve got huge (20k+) majorities in both constituencies. Whats going to be interesting is to see how much those majorities are reduced by.
They were crowing about retaining Uxbridge but they held it by the skin of their teeth after what had always been a massive Tory majority.
I’ve not seen any specific coverage of any campaign but I assume they’ll have gone all out on the culture war stuff as that’s pretty much al they’ve got left
This is just an example of what’s happening across multiple UK business sectors because we decided to make life harder for ourselves – forecast and ignored by the Govt.
I was out walking with a mate yesterday who is a senior engineer in a very large UK food supplier. A lot of the equipment they use is from Germany and he was saying how trying to get stuff developed, imported and installed, by the same German companies they've always used, is now an absolute nightmare of ridiculous red tape and their equipment costs have increased astronomically as a result.
The enthusiastic Brexiteer Rishi Sunak doesn't mention the 'B' word much nowadays, does he?
Oh that is good to see. Peter Bone is a massive c*** of the first order
I'm quite surprised by that actually. He seems like such a nice bloke.
Does this mean yet another by-election for ickle Rishi then?
Does this mean yet another by-election for ickle Rishi then?
Looks that way. I cant see enough tories fancying supporting him and voting down the suspension and whilst he has a comfortable majority it aint enough to stop a recall petition.
NEW: Conservative MP Peter Bone set to be suspended for "many varied acts of bullying and one act of sexual misconduct” https://t.co/Jq436SduMH
Can't hear his name without thinking of this
Just to complete Rishi's perfect Monday morning - Mad Lizzie seems to have installed herself as his back seat driver too.
Its unbelievable to think that this jellyhead actually has any credibility left with anyone, but all the nutjobs in the Tory party still absolutely love her. She's still unrepentedly banging the same 'unfunded tax cuts for the rich' drum.
Labour central office must view her refusal to slope off with almost as much glee as the Tories used to view Jeremy Corbyn
Liz Truss task force to unveil rival 'Growth Budget' days before Autumn Statement
The Commission launched by the 49-day Prime Minister will unveil an alternative agenda on 14 November - a week before the Tory Chancellor Jeremy Hunt delivers the Autumn Statement
Wellingborough is a hateful place and they are welcome to him. you know you live in a shit 'ole when even McDonalds gets out of dodge.
Oh that is good to see. Peter Bone is a massive c*** of the first order
I'm disappointed that it's not possible to like this comment more.
Hopefully that's the end of the loathsome little man.
Another one of the hardcore Brexit headbangers - also a spiteful little shit constantly voting against environmental protections, equal rights and social support / asylum.
his ex wife will be laughing
I think this is on topic given the recent conversations on here.
Polish election: Right-wing ruling party to lose majority - exit poll
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67118787
Interestingly:
Supporters appeared stunned, and election officials said later that turnout was probably 72.9%, the highest since the fall of communism in 1989.
A larger proportion of 18-29 year-olds had turned out to vote than over-60s, Ipsos said.
Just like over here, if we can get younger people to vote the Tories will always be in trouble. How to do that though?
Pincher and Bone, Tory sex pests at large - sounds like something out of a Roald Dahl book. All we need for the perfect dodgy Dickensian solicitors' firm is Chris 'don't ban upskirting' Chope to change a couple of letters in his last name.
The worst Parliament in history according to former chair of the standards committee.
Blunt bludgeons Bridgen in battle of the blowhard brexiteer bonkers bullshitters...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andrew-bridgen-tory-slapped-head-b2430692.html
Oh that is good to see. Peter Bone is a massive c*** of the first order
Yep,though I did wonder why they published a photo of Sven Goran Eriksson.
On the from page of tomorrow's Telegraph 'Sunak's stealth raid equivalent to 6p income tax rise, says IFS'.
Some of the reporting...'Six year freeze on tax thresholds will be equivalent to 6p rise in income tax and will cost the public an extra £52 billion a year by 2027'.
It was hunt's policy statement but they're choosing to tie it to sunak - good.
When the blue rinse brigade and brigadiers realise that nice mr sunak is taking money off them there could well be...some harrumphing in the home counties.
They may write a harshly worded letter in green ink.
Pay loads and loads more tax for ever more desperately underfunded public services, while me and my mates get rich off the back of it, isn’t the greatest sales pitch going into a general election really, is it?
If even the Torygraph are pointing that out… 😳
Peter Bone came to the opening of a new build dual GP and dentist building in Wellingborough when I ran the urgent care dental program there. All the while he called it "The Emergency Cottage Hospital" like it was 1953. His aide looked very pissed off/harassed.
He was as massive a **** as you'd imagine.
It always baffles me when you see the likes of Peter Bone, Christopher Chope, Bill Cash and all the assorted loons and fruitcakes on the Tory backbenches, that they’re returned to Westminster year after year. Who votes for these people? Who looks at the likes of Peter Bone and thinks ‘they look they’ve been doing a good job for the last 3 decades, so they’re getting my vote again!’
I sort of understand that when you consult the party membership you end up with Liz Truss as PM, but for an entire constituency to just vote the same useless clown in for term after term, just because they’ve a blue rosette on, mystifies me.
I suppose, for the sake of balance, there are plenty of useless time-serving Labour MPs too, but Peter Bone really always stood out as obviously being catastrophically dim.
Then again, as a reflection on our political system as a whole, we went into the last election with the choice of Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn for PM… 🤷♂️
It always baffles me when you see the likes of Peter Bone, Christopher Chope, Bill Cash and all the assorted loons and fruitcakes on the Tory backbenches, that they’re returned to Westminster year after year. Who votes for these people?
It is very simple, people who want the government to be Tory. It makes no difference to them who the MPs is as they won't ever need them for anything.
One of the biggest problems with how the current system works. Should have one vote for party and one vote for you local representative. People may then pick people who are not ****s like this you mention.
When the blue rinse brigade and brigadiers realise that nice mr sunak is taking money off them there could well be…some harrumphing in the home counties.
They're not paying top rate tax are they?
Getting kicked out of the modern day Tory party? Quite some achievement...
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1714291934100172896?s=20
This will, hopefully, result in one of the more odious tory MPs losing his seat.
There'll be a long line of odious tory ****s to take his place
but for an entire constituency to just vote the same useless clown in for term after term
Well they don't. Candidates are selected by the local Conservative Party. Same people who rates Truss. Then they get elected in safe seats where the electorate will vote for porcine lipstick wearers.
Getting kicked out of the modern day Tory party? Quite some achievement…
Thats the problem with the ICGS. Without them the tories could have kept ignoring the complaint as they did when it was raised to them in 201.
Only once it went to the IGCS and they came back with that inconvenient recommendation did the tories leap into action.
There’ll be a long line of odious tory **** to take his place
I've just seeen the flowchart drawn by the Tory candidate for Tamworth by-election on Thursday. Seems like a nice fella, straight out of the Anderson/Gullis wing of the party. Aren't they all nowadays?
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1714283787436408958?s=20
Hard to get a job these days if you don't have a phone or an internet connection so you can apply online...
Nice to know these guys view low income parents as simply a bunch of selfish thickies that would rather have an iPhone 20 XL than feed their kids.
theres a certain demographic who happily agree with that attitude
back to Sunak, if this hospital explosion in Gaza turns out to have been an Israeli air strike, Sunak's visit will look desperately ill timed. either way it seems reckless to get drawn in.
I see the mid beds candidate doesn't want to be be outdone
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1714371307523949044?t=unhwueuxIqQRvDoaoaSErA&s=19
As the US are Israel's biggest supplier of military hardware, Biden's visit could be spectacularly bad timing.
All sunak had to offer were platitudes and hot air - similar to 'thoughts and prayers' from US poluticians every time there's a mass shooting.
will biden still go now?
Damned if he does, even more damned if he doesn't.
Israel is Israel's biggest supplier of military hardware. It exported three times as much as it received from the US. The picture of Israel beinf dependent on US handouts is totally inaccurate.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/4/infographic-what-you-need-to-know-about-israels-military
politecameraactionFree Member<br />Hard to get a job these days if you don’t have a phone or an internet connection so you can apply online…
Which will then lead to the poor sods being sanctioned too.
To clarify my recent post - the US is the largest exporter of military equipment to Israel.
That should satisfy any pedants.
The US have supplied military equipment to Israel every year since 1961.
Anything to say about lil' rishi?
Anything to say about lil’ rishi?
Just watching the news now, he's poncing around Israel saying how much he supports them.
Bet he's gutted that Biden got there before him.
Global Britain innit?
There’s something deeply tragic about it, isn’t there?
A desperate photo op to a backdrop of utter carnage, hopelessly trying to appear relevant, while obviously running away from potentially catastrophic by-election results
It’s pathetic. He’s utterly pathetic.,
He's in Saudi now, presumably to visit his Big Oil mates since the Tories are basically the political front of the oil and gas industries.
Maybe flog them a few weapons while he's at it.
Edit: I see the Covid inquiry isn't painting him in a positive light:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67163232
Still, at least his wife did well out of it:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife
I reckon he has popped into Saudi Arabia whilst he is in that neck of the woods either to emphasis the shared values that both the UK and Saudi Arabia have.
Or to take the opportunity to once again criticise Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for ordering the execution of Jamal Khashoggi, in a foreign country, for offending him.
Still, at least his wife did well out of it:<br />
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/19/sunaks-covid-startup-fund-invested-nearly-2m-in-firms-linked-to-his-wife/blockquote >
It's corruption basically isn't it? That would have ended a Premiership pre referendum, when there was at least a pretence of decency in public life. It's also chump change for the Sunaks, you would think they wouldn't even bother with the "small"amounts involved given the obvious conflict of interest and potential embarrassment. The rich are never rich enough though.Still "Labour are just as bad." apparently?
Story is absolute bull. Not even GCSE grade understanding of business or finance. It’s written like they skimmed off £2m personally.
VC’s have multiple investors and partners. The co’s they invest in also have many investors / share / option holders. Likely hundreds of people involved, using a scheme as intended. £2m is insignificant to them, even more so the scheme overall.
Every VC and co in the UK was eligible at the time and it was publicised everywhere. STW could have raised investment and benefitted. There was no need to be mates with Rishi.
The little fella trundling around various middle eastern capitals mouthing platitudes as he has nothing else to offer is both pathetic and humbling.
He cannot offer military support to Israel as successive governments have reduced our armed forces to relative impotence; he can offer GCHQ intelligence but is that anything better than what Biden has made available?
The US have sent two naval task groups to the eastern med in a 'show of strength'; the UK couldn't send a fishing boat.
We truly are a much diminished and faded post-colonial country.
What's worse is that the whole world sees this for the charade it really is.
Its Lettuce Time! :D, and my monies on the lettuce!
Looking at the by-election results, you can see why even Gaza seemed preferable to Bedfordshire at the moment.
Well done little guy. You’re conference bounce was so impressive it caused one of the biggest swings in political history
Cruella and Kemi and the lettuce will be sharpening the knives for the latest round of Tory bloodletting
Just call a general election and get it over with
When is this going to be over we literally have doctor death as a prime minister.
Just call a general election and get it over with
And give up on all the expenses, the nice free helicopter/private jet, the photo opportunities...?!
Oh no, they're in it for the duration.
They haven't run the country in the interests of what the people want for the last 10+ years (in spite of the best efforts of the Daily Mail giving it "the will of the people" narrative), what makes you think they'll change now?!
I'm sure there'll be plenty of "lessons learned" and "a willingness to listen" from the by-election results though...
Exactly, you will need to take it from his cold dead hands
both losing tories scumbags took it with good grace 🙂
The longer they hold on, the longer they can feed various relatives / mates companies lots of government money
Its like working your notice period - you only do stuff you want to...and take as much cash as possible
your party are going to cut you up and stuff you in a suitcase.
im stealing that !
Story is absolute bull. Not even GCSE grade understanding of business or finance. It’s written like they skimmed off £2m personally.
VC’s have multiple investors and partners. The co’s they invest in also have many investors / share / option holders. Likely hundreds of people involved, using a scheme as intended. £2m is insignificant to them, even more so the scheme overall.
Every VC and co in the UK was eligible at the time and it was publicised everywhere. STW could have raised investment and benefitted. There was no need to be mates with Rishi.
sillysilly t's not "bull". UK taxpayers monies were put into 4 businesses where Sunak's wife was also an investor, and 3 of the 4 failed. I'd want to see the business case that the UK Bank Team (whoever they are) wrote at the time showing why they believed these were good investments AND I'd want to see who got there money out before they failed. Without this evidence I'm assuming something dodgy occurred.
your party are going to cut you up and stuff you in a suitcase.
im stealing that !
Mods is it possible you can change name of thread I just cant take seeing his name anymore, how about Doctor Death?
I’m sure there’ll be plenty of “lessons learned” and “a willingness to listen” from the by-election results though…
Apparently not, they're doing the right things, and Rishi is the right man, according to Tory talking heads this morning.
This lot simply do not know anything apart from how to double down.
They've wheeled out weapons-grade dimwit Greg Hands to do the media rounds this morning.
It really is something to behold...
I wish people would stop beating on Rishi. He's inherited a terrible situation caused by the last Tory government, which he was definitely not part of, that was a different guy who had the same name and looked like him. Despite this, he's still going all out to deliver for the British people. If fact, he's delivering so much he's giving Postman Pat a run for his money. He's making so many "big calls" that his monthly phone bill is going to be astronomical. He´s going to reshuffle his cabinet for the umpteenth time and bring in some new faces, including the Haunted Pencil and the reanimated corpse of Enoch Powell, that will really make a difference. And if that doesn't work, you can be sure that Graham Brady will be receiving some letters from the children, so we can break out the Tory Tombola and see who gets to be PM next. Jolly good show!
Anyhow, Labour smell of wee and kicked your cat, so don't vote for them.
Meanwhile, back home…
Blimey.