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Lack of vacancies is linked to funding. If it paid really well there’sd be more applicants for social care jobs.

...And another solvable problem attributed to the Government's pretend lack of money.

Drives you mad.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 9:03 am
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Carol Vorderman’s twitter feed is unexpectedly fantastic.

It's like someone flicked a switch inside her head and she's gone full rottweiler against this bunch of Tory spivs. She's unrelenting.

Oh those darn pesky markets.

At least we found the one person dumb enough to buy currency at the airport.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 9:38 am
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Sarah Vine dumb? 🤣


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 9:43 am
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Sarah Vine dumb? 🤣

Hard to believe, I know.

https://twitter.com/WestminsterWAG/status/1643594067446571008


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 9:57 am
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Don't label the person, label the act. Buying currency at the airport is dumb.

Sarah Vine seems to have done a number of dumb acts.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 10:01 am
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Why is EVERYTHING in this country such a rip off?

I said back in 2016… give it enough time for Brexit to be in the rear view mirror and “RIP OFF BRITAIN” will be constant front page news in the right wing rags that pushed for it… but we’re not there quite yet… only a few years to go… some working in the media will be lining themselves up to get plenty of well paid work using that line though. She’s not stupid, she’s thinking of her career.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 10:15 am
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Sarah Vine seems to have done a number of dumb acts.

She married Michael Gove for a start. But she must be truly spectacularly dim to not make the connection between being fleeced at every turn and the unregulated, free-market capitalism she has championed for decades.

Has she reported back on what the sausage rolls were like? I'm taking it we're not talking about a Ginsters here?

Anyway.. another day, another Tory MP with their snout in the trough

https://twitter.com/supertanskiii/status/1643706968278806528?s=20

They all must also be pretty spectacularly dim. If someone you didn't know approached you out of the blue and offered you a huge amount of money to break the law, I don't know about you but I think I'd be checking out who the **** these people were. Particularly if a couple of your colleagues had just been stitched up in exactly the same fashion a couple of weeks ago. Spectacularly arrogant and just used to doing this sort of shit, or as thick as mince? More than likely both.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 10:24 am
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Joins growing list of Tories with the whip removed:

Matt Hancock (money grabbing)

Andrew Bridgen (Conspiracy Theorist and COVID denier )

Julian Knight (collar being felt by the rozzers, allegedly)

Chris Pincher (Sex Pest)

Rob Roberts (Sex Pest)

David Warburton (Sex Pest)

What a fine upstanding group


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 10:37 am
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Particularly if a couple of your colleagues had just been stitched up in exactly the same fashion a couple of weeks ago.

Looks like the times and ledbydonkeys were running the same campaign at about the same time. Bentons sale pitch happened early last month according to the times story.
Wonder if any mps offered their services to both.

Julian Knight (collar being felt by the rozzers, allegedly)

He was under investigation but the met police have dropped the case. The whips office havent restored it though due to "further complaints".


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 11:39 am
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Isn't there another Tory MP that's in the news, name withheld, for ending up in a brothel and calling another Tory MP for advice as how to extricate himself?

I *think* that's the advice he was after...


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 11:50 am
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I wonder who Kwasi has the lowdown on, given that he did exactly the same as Hancock with no censure at all?


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 11:53 am
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Isn’t there another Tory MP that’s in the news, name withheld

Only seems to have appeared in a couple of papers and then vanished again.

I *think* that’s the advice he was after…

If I was in charge of a company with the same number of employees as tory mps and the same number of problems I would be asking my hr boss if there might just possibly be something not quite right with our recruitment process.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 11:55 am
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I wonder who Kwasi has the lowdown on, given that he did exactly the same as Hancock with no censure at all?

Hancock had the whip withdrawn for going on "i am a celebrity".


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 11:58 am
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I wonder who Kwasi has the lowdown on, given that he did exactly the same as Hancock with no censure at all?

What has he done that is exactly the same as Matt Hancock?


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:01 pm
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might just possibly be something not quite right with our recruitment process.

There are currently (I think) 15 MPs with the whip withdrawn? Collectively they're the fourth largest "group" behind the SNP and there's more of them then there are Lib Dems


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:09 pm
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What has he done that is exactly the same as Matt Hancock?

Matt Hancock and Kwasi Kwarteng ask for £10,000 a day to work for non-existent company

In a sting operation set up by campaign group Led By Donkeys, Mr Hancock and Mr Kwarteng both set out five-figure sums for what they would expect to be paid to advise a non-existent firm in South Korea.

One has the whip withdrawn, one not.

We already know that doing a reality TV show is frowned upon by the party, bankrupting the economy?... not so much


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:21 pm
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One has the whip withdrawn, one not.

Yes but Hancock didnt have it withdrawn for the "consulting" gig.
He had already lost the whip due to appearing on "i am a celebrity" on the grounds he wouldnt be able to represent his constituents (yes this does beg the question about Johnson and all his holidays...).


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:27 pm
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One has the whip withdrawn, one not.

So you think that Kwasi Kwarteng should have the Tory whip withdrawn for a completely different reason to why Matt Hancock had the Tory whip withdrawn. I don't see how that can be described as exactly the same.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:28 pm
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My Apologies Ernesto. I had foolishly assumed that Hancock had the whip withdrawn for being caught red-handed offering to break the law with regard to paid lobbying, so therefore the same should apply to Kamikwasi

How silly of me. I should have known thats all par for the course in the modern Tory party, whereas eating a kangaroos bollocks will really get you in trouble


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:34 pm
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whereas eating a kangaroos bollocks will really get you in trouble

Yes, if they are still attached, bigly trouble.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:40 pm
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I had foolishly assumed that Hancock had the whip withdrawn for being caught red-handed offering to break the law with regard to paid lobbying,

Hancock didnt offer to break the law. He just offered his "consulting" skills.
Unlike this latest muppet Hancock and Kwazi know how to play the game.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:41 pm
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Well you should have known that Matt Hancock had the whip withdrawn because he appeared on I'm A Celebrity, I'm surprised that you didn't.

I am also surprised that you apparently don't know that paid lobbying isn't breaking the law, unless it is a minister, even if they are "caught red-handed".

Rishi Sunak can withdraw the whip from a Tory MP for appearing on I'm A Celebrity but if he wants to do it to MPs who accept a second job he will have to do it to over 90 Tory MPs.

The two situations are clearly not exactly the same.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:42 pm
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I don't actually pay much attention to reality TV shows, or their fallout Ernesto

Other than Married at First Sight - Australia, that is, which is bizarrely compelling. It not so much a car crash as a rolling three lane pile up, involving a chemical waste tanker and an illegal shipment of nuclear weapons

Give it a watch


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 12:54 pm
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I am also surprised that you apparently don’t know that paid lobbying isn’t breaking the law, unless it is a minister, even if they are “caught red-handed”.

Probably because this isnt true. The rules are, probably, deliberately confusing but they apply to all MPs.
There is the "Transparency of Lobbying, Non-Party Campaigning and Trade Union Administration Act 2014." which amongst other things requires anyone being paid to lobby ministers to register as a lobbyist.
Which, unfortunately, for MPs would break the code of conduct for MPs.

Hence why the latest muppet is in trouble since rather than being suitably vague about his consulting help he directly said he would lobby on their behalf.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 1:00 pm
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I don’t actually pay much attention to reality TV shows, or their fallout Ernesto

I don't watch I'm A Celebrity either but I do have a vague interest in Tory Party shenanigans.

I thought it was reasonably well-known by anyone with a vague interest that Matt Hancock didn't have the whip withdrawn because of the Led By Donkeys sting.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 1:16 pm
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The offer to leak an unpublished White Paper directly to the gambling industry is the most obvious breach of Parliamentary standards. Not far from falling foul of insider trading legislation, had he actually done it rather than just make the offer. Not sure if there is a conspiracy offence for this, it's definitely market sensitive information.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 1:16 pm
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Not sure if there is a conspiracy offence for this, it’s definitely market sensitive information.

Yeah he definitely saw the line and backed away from it before sprinting back and aiming for the world record long jump.
I wonder if it counts as insider trading though if its used to sell consulting services to the gambling firms vs actually trading shares?
The depressing thing is only 2-4k a month. Why do they sell everything so cheap. Ability to directly annoy ministers and place questions has got to be worth more than that.

Looks like Craig Whittaker got lucky.
Had agreed to meet the times team but hadnt done so by the time the ledbydonkeys story came out.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 1:39 pm
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Makes you wonder how crooked they all are if a fairly nobody MP reckons he can waltz in and get some fairly hush hush information off presumably someone in the cabinet, or fairly high up.

Surprised, to be honest, that he hasn't gone for the 'I knew it was a sting all along and was just stringing them along to, erm, proove a point' excuse.


 
Posted : 06/04/2023 10:02 pm
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A great example of how things don't simply just fit into one thread. Wouldn't want you guys over here to not see this example.

I think the target is Sunak?

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1643973886311297028?t=5ksjx00SgndeUq_fkd604Q&s=19

Imagine the focus group that helped with that....


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 7:58 am
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I think the target is Sunak?

Of course it is. He’s been blaming failures in this area on “political correctness”, to divert from what his government has been doing to the police and legal system.

Not sure what to make of dirty return fire like this. Perhaps I prefer a clean loser.


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 8:04 am
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Of course it is. He’s been blaming failures in this area on “political correctness”, to divert from what his government has been doing to the police and legal system.

Meaning it fits into the Sunak thread Kelvin.

It's totally debased BTW.

"Tweet implies that the PM, Rishi Sunak, doesn't support prison sentences for sexual assaults against children.

The current sentencing guidelines for this crime has a maximum sentence of 14 years imprisonment."


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 8:11 am
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Of course it fits in this thread.

The numbers seem dodgy as well, I’d like to know how many of those avoiding a custodial sentence where close in age, for a start.

Taking aim at Sunak on policy areas of his own choosing seems far game to me. But this isn’t the kind of ad I want to see. I’m more of a “when they go low, we go high” kind of a person.


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 8:15 am
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Agreed.


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 8:35 am
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Not sure what to make of dirty return fire like this.

I have no problem at all. That sort of tactic is totally deplorable if it comes from the Tories or UKIP, it is even more deplorable when it comes from a political party funded by trade unions.


 
Posted : 07/04/2023 10:27 am
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Completely devoid of ideas as he is, I see we're back to this again. We're all 'anti-maths' now apparently...

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1647829406491062272?s=20

Still no word on where he's going to magic these maths teachers up from to teach all these students who'd rather be studying a subject they actually like and is more applicable to their career plans 🙄


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 10:45 am
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Voters being unaware of simple mathematics is probably the only hope he has.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:03 am
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Much as I support STEM learning, I don't think lack of maths among the general population is holding the country back. You run the risk of effectively wasting everyone's time that could be used for more utilitarian things.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:09 am
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Much as I support STEM learning, I don’t think lack of maths among the general population is holding the country back.

I doubt it helps but the solution of making it compulsory to 18 isnt the answer.
If people havent learned maths to an okay level by 16 either a)they are never going to or b)there is something wrong with the teaching.
Extending it another 2 years isnt going to help much in either case. Arguably in the latter it will make things worse since the teachers will be more stretched.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:16 am
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“We’ve got to change this anti-maths mindset. We’ve got to start prizing numeracy for what it is – a key skill every bit as essential as reading,”

Well no-one would suggest that basic numeracy is not an essential skill.

Sunak is expected to point to statistics showing the UK is below average for numeracy among industrialised countries, with more than 8 million adults having maths skills below those expected in schools for a child of nine.

So if the education system can't teach those skills in 11 years, how will 2 more years help those pupils that are obviously struggling, which could be any number of reasons?

This again is absolutely nonsense. "Anti maths". FFS.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:47 am
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Hats off to the photographer who spotted his potential 'Thick of It' moment.

Yeah... if you could just move a bit to the right for me?

https://twitter.com/kimjwhitehead/status/1647667510223708160?s=20


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:52 am
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Given that I'm old enough to remember this Conservative government launching successive maths teaching initiatives over the past 12 years or so, a more pertinent question might be why none of these have had any impact on the woke anti-maths population, and why Sunak thinks his latest one will do any better.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 11:53 am
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And you might ask why these initiatives have not increased the supply of maths teachers. Decades ago a DH in London said to me, 'if you're a reasonable maths graduate teacher and you're not being paid a scale 4 (then a HoF salary) then there's something wrong with you.' I don't think the situation has improved since then.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 12:24 pm
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if you’re a reasonable maths graduate teacher

But if the problem is 8 million adults with skills expected of a 9 year old, then you don't need maths graduates to solve that.

You need skilled and well trained teachers to teach basic maths in Primary school. No need for a degree to teach fractions, percentages, etc.

The whole thing is just another load of shit dumped on the media so they can carry on with the tear up of the Country.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 12:31 pm
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Its  making me twitch that he is constantly mixing up maths and arithmetic / numeracy.

He talks about both in the bit I saw.  "nurse needs maths to calculate dosages" - no thats arithmentic  "Media types need vectors and matrices" Thats maths!

You need skilled and well trained teachers to teach basic maths in Primary school. No need for a degree to teach fractions, percentages, etc.

thats arithmetic!

I'm twitching away here 🙂


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 12:37 pm
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Media types need vectors and matrices

Matrix calculus completely did my head in at A level age, but then became essential for writing for 3D image generators. But those kinds of skills have nothing to do with trying to catch people up at further education level. We need better education provision at primary and secondary education as the priority. So teachers. Teachers. At A level age what doesn't help is the huge cut in funding per a pupil in the state sector... which is what we have had under this Conservative government. Sunak could start by reversing those cuts.


 
Posted : 17/04/2023 12:46 pm
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