Joke's on Sunak, that kind of discipline takes him back to the days of nanny, and makes him feel all warm inside.
Give him a few albums to flick through of etchings showing children underneath looms or darn’t pit and he’ll be happy as Larry
Rishi "the sociopath" Sunak cares so little about anyone else, he didn't even bother to welcome his own new mp to the house. Starmer had to do it for him. What an embarrassment!
Starmer welcomed the new labour MP for Selby but I didn't hear him do the same for the new tory in johnsin's old seat - and it would have been surprising if he had.
Did I miss something?
I reckon Rishi's going to pull a PR blinder. He and his wife could comfortably afford to pay for all those new schools, my money's on this being his next anouncement at tomorrow's PMQ.
Did I miss something?
Yes - he welcomed the new MPs for Uxbridge & Ruislip and Somerton & Frome, but not by their names.
Philby - thanks.
You’d never have thought it possible but he’s actually an even more extreme narcissist than his two predecessors
Quite some achievement
It’s all about him. At least the flytipped sofa and Mad Lizzie gave the vaguest of nods to the little people and the plebs. None of that nonsense for Rishi
Do you suppose that the Mitra Sunak Computer Lab in California has crumbly concrete ?
Where is all this pro Richie stuff coming from it's all over YouTube shorts.
The blokes a tool and everyone knows his days are numbered.
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1699404670232318422
after the latest performance at PMQ's, I think it's possible someone from the cabinet will do a Rishi on Rishi, especially if they lose mid beds. Probably have to be the Chancellor agian.
Mordaunt has the exact energy of someone who's waiting for their parents to die so they can inherit their house... Looking on in horror as mum and dad run the place into the ground rather than having the decency to leave it in move-in condition
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Yes, he welcomed all 3 new MP's, and Sunak didn't.
Another by-election coming up following pincher's resignation this morning.
Will, hopefully, be another tory loss.
a scandal a day keeps the voters away
https://twitter.com/cazjwheeler/status/1700582575448764561?t=ZAhdlRWvOs_QCDmqpNBjtw&s=19
Then there’s this in this mornings Observer
Revealed: covert deal to cut help for pupils in England with special needs
The government has quietly signed a contract targeting 20% cuts to the number of new education plans for children with special educational needs and disabilities (Send) to bring down costs, the Observer can reveal.
Once again this shower of ghouls are quietly targeting the most vulnerable in society to make them foot the bill for their incompetence and corruption.
If anyone has tried to access SEND provision in this country at the moment, they’ll find that the system is so threadbare and underfunded already that in large parts it simply doesn’t exist any more
This is due to year after year of cuts. Now they want to make further massive cuts to all but finish it off.
I absolutely despise this lot and this sort of thing is exactly why. It’s their casual, wilful inhumanity. They must know full well that this will make life immeasurably harder for people who’s lives are already really, really hard, but they just don’t care
That's it, they want a war, they're getting one from me. I'll be campaigning like a bastard to remove our spineless Tory drone.
Mainstream education cannot deal with this, they can barely educate children without any additional needs with the resources they have.
@Binners although in fairness the SEND system is also overwhelmed by middle class parents looking for an excuse as to why little Jemima isnt doing very well when the reality is she doesnt give a monkeys and her parents are absent. The system does need slimming down and restructuring so the kids that really do need support get it. Theres far too many kids looking for SEND statements who would benefit from better mainstream teaching and better parenting.
However whatever this lot will implement will make an already failing system significantly worse.
Improved targeting of help is one thing, cutting funding is quite another...
middle class parents looking for an excuse as to why little Jemima isnt doing very well when the reality is she doesnt give a monkeys and her parents are absent. Theres far too many kids looking for SEND statements who would benefit from better mainstream teaching and better parenting.
undoubtedly a thing if the tales from my headteacher partner are to be believed, however the idea that 'The system does need slimming down and restructuring so the kids that really do need support get it.' implies that there is any meat on the bone at all, and there really isn't. the vast majority of primaries have had to cut their TA provision this year due to the unfunded enhancement of junior teacher's pay. my partner's Local Authority school was running a year on year surplus of 500k. without cutting around 10% of her staff this year through not extending fixed term contracts, some redundancies, and not replacing those who move on more naturally. if she hadn't done that she would be looking at a 170k shortfall in her budget this year, only getting worse next as those pay rises roll forward next year and the year after. my partners school is a large one too. small schools have far less margin for action.
It would seem like there’s a drive to shoehorn all kids into ‘mainstream’ education, whether that is appropriate or not, given their specific needs
This doesn’t just hinder the individual child, but isn’t going to do their classmates any favours either. I assume teachers are just expected to get on and deal with that without any additional support
There’s a whole generation of ‘lost’ children out there who simply haven’t returned to school after covid lockdowns, a lot with acute needs and challenges. It beggars belief that given this situation the government’s ‘solution’ to this is a huge cut in funding. Decisions like that have huge, far-reaching consequences that don’t seem to even be on their radar, or it is but is being ignored as inconvenient as it doesn’t fit their narrative
So I’ll stick with my original statement…
They must know full well that this will make life immeasurably harder for people who’s lives are already really, really hard, but they just don’t care
I'm possibly one of those 'middle class parents' but it's not an easy option to take having to fight for the rights of your child. The system is broken, my son was diagnosed with dyslexia at 7 so we got some help then, but we had to fight for that. It was clear to us that he had additional issued but he did well at primary school. The change to secondary school however was overwhelming, to be honest looking at it rationally it is mad making kids go from a close cohort with one teacher into the secondary system, no wonder kids get lost and disengage.
The transition prompted a mental health crisis which led to an autism diagnosis during lock down.
Every step of the way we had to chase and cajole to keep the system interested. CAMHS was a joke, but I understand why, they trialed him and realised he had parents that would catch him, so out the door you go. You know that feeling when you walk out of hospital with your first born and you think, shite we're flying solo, it was similar to that but intrepidation was replaced by fear.
You cannot be absent to get the system to provide your child's basic rights for an education. The battle to secure his place in a SEN school was brutal, emotionally draining. Being reasonably educated with an okay job meant I could learn and play the system. This is what is wrong. The system needs to be fair to everyone, right now it's failing us all, and failing our kids is frankly criminal.
We're in a lot better place now, though my career has stalled a bit and my marriage is over.
The Tories are no longer the Tories of my youth, though i didn't like them then, these bastards are evil. If it wasn't for my kids I'd be protesting these into oblivion. Life is hard and they're making it harder for all of us.
Two year wait just for assessment around here. Not fueled by the middle class, those that can afford it are increasingly paying for help outside the system now. The big problem is in schools in towns with intake from poorer communities, who simply can not provide the staffing for kids already assessed and know many more genuinely need assessment and help.
”targeting at least a 20% reduction in new EHCPs issued”
This is down right cruel. It’s like trying to cut health budgets by aiming to make it harder to get a diagnosis.
@twistedpencil - your post could have been written, word for word, by friends of ours.
They feel completely and utterly abandoned, because that is exactly what’s happened to them with trying to get help for their autistic daughter. It seems to me that the government has effectively washed its hands of the requirement to provide an education for those with special needs. Provision is now virtually none existent and that’s before theses latest proposed cuts
I can fully appreciate the horrendous stress you must have been under with what you’ve been through. I’ve watched my friends go through hell for years, fighting to try and get an education for their daughter, in the face of - at best - total indifference. The impression I get is that the authorities hope they’ll just shut up and go away
sounds like they want to force send kids to stay in mainstream schools to save cash
one of my Cubs ( well 3 of em actually) is autistic, was discussing with his mum just last week her awful experience of trying to get him support either in a mainstream school (which shes now given up on) or a place in a specialist school.
but the mainstream school is simply lying about his abilities to keep their scores up , the strain its putting them under is immense (similar to twistedpencil, its cost them their marriage) and obviously its doing the child harm at the same time- his behaviour has deteriorated and he struggles to engage with any of the other cubs now
Really feel for you and agree, CAMHS is totally ****ed up. Not to derail but my son has been badly let down, nearly 3 years and still waiting and now he's 17.5 he's been told that they're moving him to the adult list. Thankfully they'll slot him in at a similar point in the queue so he doesn't have to go back to the end. Also fortunately I'm lucky enough that I have been able to pay for private counselling and for his treatment so far although if NHS can't support his surgery that's going to be a struggle. It's not so easy in your setting - I'm aware of the issues, my wife works in a school with a reasonably high # of SEN kids - you can't just pay and overcome the lack of support in the same way.
When you decide to storm the DofE, you can rely on me to hold your coat for you.
It’s like trying to cut health budgets by aiming to make it harder to get a diagnosis.
This exactly.
In my case - it's practically impossible to get help with gender identity if they feel your issues are mental health related. You need to be in good mental health before they'll address anything with gender dysphoria seriously.
What do they think is causing the mental health issues?
And then you get on a 3+ year waiting list for CAMHS anyway because it's so chronically underfunded.
And then when CAMHS can't help the teachers have to try and don't always get it right and are taken away from other things, like you know, teaching
If they go ahead and slash funding then what they’re essentially doing is giving the green light to the establishment of metaphorical asylums or ghettoes
The SEND kids who can’t cope in ‘mainstream’ education will simply drop out of the system where they then become invisible so, to all intents and purposes, they no longer exist
That would appear to be problem solved as far as the government is concerned and to hell with the long term consequences of kids effectively not having an education and the impact on their families.
These ‘lost’ children are already a major issue post covid and this latest move looks to sweep the whole issue under the carpet and pretend the problem doesn’t exist
Rise in school absences since Covid driven by anxiety and lack of support, say English councils
So according to that article over a fifth of kids are suffering from anxiety and mental health issues resulting in absence of over 10%, we really are screwed if that many kids are expecting specialist support and the ones that really cant function without it are going to struggle to get it.
, was discussing with his mum just last week her awful experience of trying to get him support either in a mainstream school (which shes now given up on) or a place in a specialist school.
This is exactly where we were with Sandboy Jnr in year 7 at High School. The school really didn’t want to help him even with an Asperger’s diagnosis. His mental health was at crisis point and we were left with the only option to pull him out and homeschool him for his GCSE’s.
He’s just achieved amazing results in his A levels which goes to justify that decision.
seems theres no coming back from being Trussed!
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1702351405883781632
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed
Thank you for that, I’m making a note of it for future reference! 🤣👌🏻🫶🏻🎯💯
I know this government isn't exactly renowned for strategic thinking, but surely someone in Conservative Central HQ must be in charge of reading the runes and working out that in terms of global economics, next year is shaping up to be a complete shitshow?
El Niño is set to be a whopper in 2024, and the forecasting is suggesting that could mean a terrible harvest in China, which in turn means that food prices for us are only going up. So, more inflation, likely higher interest rates in 2024.
https://www.just-food.com/features/why-should-the-food-industry-be-concerned-by-el-nino/
Surely Sunak must be realising that the fabled economic turnaround he needs is not happening, and people are going to be even worse off and pissed off after this winter?
Rishi has more immediate problem. Mrs self-awareness is back!
Liz Truss is presently making a speech to declare how she was right all along and Rishi should be doing what she says. I'm just listening to her and you couldn't make it up. She's basically pointing out how 13 years of Tory government has failed. Of course, none of this is her fault, obviously
She is properly unhinged. Its the ramblings of an absolute madwoman. If you're near a radio, shove 5 live on. Its absolute comedy gold!
I'm sure Rishi will be listening with his head in his hands and they'll be popping the champagne corks open in Labour Central Office. She's basically writing their election campaign for them
"yeah, you know everythign Liz Truss just said... we're going to do the opposite of that" 😂
https://twitter.com/MichaelTakeMP/status/1703692451729351133?s=20
Yes but i think they're past caring now....they know they're going to lose, so they'll leave a pile of massive steaming turds for Labour to deal with, spend the next 5 years blaming Labour for all of the UK's woes, and hope that gets them back in....
After all, they've spent the last 13 years blaming the previous Labour government for everything
Yeah, but if they go now, they potentially avoid losing even more seats, have an easier time blaming Labour for a further cost-of-living downturn that is already baked in, and potentially get back on the gravy train a year earlier.
I think the unexpected GDP dip in the latest figures is the only thing that might be holding them back.
God knows what will happen if they lose Mid-Beds (Dorries' old seat) in the by-election and Sunak gets a leadership challenge thrown at him.
El Niño is set to be a whopper in 2024, and the forecasting is suggesting that could mean a terrible harvest in China, which in turn means that food prices for us are only going up. So, more inflation, likely higher interest rates in 2024.
There's not a single element of what you've just posted that this government would understand, let alone deal with. Those of us who don't rely on food banks had better start donating to them.
Rumblings about Sunak rolling back on the green polices we already have... at a time when we need more not less to be done. Diluting and junking targets on cars, boilers, air travel, new build home efficiency, landlord responsibilities for insulation. Who is all this "let the planet burn" stuff supposed to appeal to?
So, more inflation, likely higher interest rates in 2024.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66852333
Prices will rise faster in the UK than any other advanced economy this year, a forecast suggests.
The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said UK inflation would average 7.2% in 2023.
The think tank said this would be the highest rate in the G7 group, which includes the US, Germany, France, Japan, Canada and Italy.
Rumblings about Sunak rolling back on the green polices we already have… at a time when we need more not less to be done. Diluting and junking targets on cars, boilers, air travel, new build home efficiency, landlord responsibilities for insulation. Who is all this “let the planet burn” stuff supposed to appeal to?
Exactly the same people who Liz Truss was trying to appeal to yesterday. Tory Backbenchers and racist pensioners in Eastbourne. Wasn't this exactly the same shite she was spouting?
Clearly they're now fighting the next Tory leadership election before they've even lost the general election
Who is all this “let the planet burn” stuff supposed to appeal to?
A fairly substantial proportion of the population who like the idea of driving what they like/flying when they want etc.
Mix of people who either accept climate change is real but dont want to change to deal with it (often using the excuse of what about China etc) or simply denies climate change and hence have even less reason to change.
sunak desperately trying to keep the IEA, torygraph, nutter backbencher crew on side
realistically changing targets now will be hugely disruptive to an industry gearing up to change by 2030
there will be a backlash (ironically) from the auto industry
car wars just the latest culture war front
This really is desperate shit.
They managed to retain a single seat in a by-election, by the skin of their teeth, where they once had a massive majority and the conclusion they drew from that is that their only remaining hope is this climate change denial bullshit
Again, appears like a desperate pre-election nugget for the voters they're hoping to hang on to. Probably given up on getting votes from anyone sensible.
I don't think it really matters what Rishi says, car manufacturers are already planning that far ahead, even if you're allowed to still sell ICE cars in 2031 stone age Britain I don't think many manufacturers will be making many by then. I think they may have woken up to the fact they need to get their fingers out and start investing in EV infrastructure and distributikn grid and they should have started 15 years ago.
On a side note I've just seen a load of gammon posts on the local Facebook group, the supreme idoicy displayed there and ongoing support for the Torys is just mind blowing. There really should be some sort of comprehension and awareness test you need to pass before being allowed to vote.
<So, more inflation, likely higher interest rates in 2024</span>
Not surprising one iota. They keep giving that lovely money to people with money.
Look at Japan - the only G7 country to not go on an interest rate splurge has the lowest inflation.
It will get blamed on a one off lift of wage inflation which we all know is bollocks, where we have seen the price of oil driving this yet again.
We really are in a mess.
And the Sunak green 'weakening' comments is just another angle to try and hang on to their core nut jobs - interesting to see how this pans out.
Somewhat predictably, it looks like he's got the desired reception from his target market of reactionary, climate-change-denying gammons
Brain-of-Britain Suella Braverman is presently being ripped apart over it on Radio 4.
She' described net zero targets as 'arbitrary' and had it pointed out to her that it was Boris Johnson who set those apparently 'arbitrary' targets, so did he just pluck them out of the air?
Cue... erm.... erm.... erm.... then repeating her obviously briefed line for this ..."we are putting the economy first"
She really is as thick as mince
I said many years ago that the 2030 promise would be kicked down the road and looks like I was right. You cannot believe the government on what they promise for this week so expecting promises made for 10 years time to be kept is somewhat delusional.
It's bizarre in some respects, one of the top rated comments on the Fails site is something like "I'll never buy and electric vehicle, not ever!". Way to go there really sticking it to the man.
Its like Brexit and immigration and all manner of other things. A dwindling bunch of pensioners saying 'if you promise to make the country a mythical version of 1950 then I'll vote for you'
The thing is that pandering exclusively to them is quite literally the law of diminishing returns, as there are less and less of them by the day
I love the way they say they are not abandoning the commitment to net zero by 2050 (yet) just abandoning all the things required to achieve it.
I wonder if the Tory strategists have now completed the private polling and number-crunching and now see haemorrhaging gammons to the likes of Reform as the main threat to a large number of otherwise safe seats? If so, we can expect a flood of culture war announcements to keep them in the fold.
I love the way they say they are not abandoning the commitment to net zero by 2050 (yet) just abandoning all the things required to achieve it.
Cruella did have that point made to her and it also pointed out that if you didn't do it now, you'd just have to do it more, further down the line
She didn't seem to get this. She's not very bright. She just kept parroting the obviously Central Office Approve Line ”we are putting the economy first”
No pointers about if the economy would be better off if most of it was underwater
Apparently Rishi himself is going to come out of hiding to announce this all today. Probably, without a hint or irony, after a carbon-spraying private jet flight to Yorkshire.
Ford UK have already said it risks undermining their business, which is working to previous policies, and indicates a lack of consistency and support from the government. So the car companies are already trashing it 🙂
”"Our business needs three things from the UK government, ambition, commitment, and consistency... A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three," Ford UK
Apparently Rishi himself is going to come out of hiding to announce this all today. Probably, without a hint or irony, after a carbon-spraying private jet flight to Yorkshire.
He could use a good egging/milkshaking at this point. Hopefully Yorkshire won't let us down.
Alok Sharma - one of the rare remaining sane Tories - has also come out and trashed the proposals
https://twitter.com/BBCr4today/status/1704387079768035653?s=20
A relaxation of 2030 would undermine all three
But as @binners and @rone have suggested, despite Sunak saying we're doing this for the economy, he's not really taking to those folks. He's talking to the slightly unhinged retired idiots that are the Conservative Party members in the run up to conference season who want to hear that law breakers are going to be thrashed, other people's grandchildren are going to be forced to do National Service, something something blue passports...
He is also very good at predicting the future as not doing something planned for 2030 because of impact to the economy is bold when knowing what the economy will look like in 12 months is pretty difficult and far from an exact science.
Nobody knows what will be happening ion the world (climate change related included) in 7 years time and what those impacts to the economy will be but they are likely to be a lot bigger than whether new ICE cars can be purchased.
Conservative Party members in the run up to conference season who want to hear that law breakers are going to be thrashed
But obvs not those cutting down ULEZ cameras 🙂
He could use a good egging/milkshaking at this point. Hopefully Yorkshire won’t let us down.
Wrong bit of Yorkshire - he's an MP in the bit that will love this announcement
I really don't understand what is even the point of stirring up this shitfest on climate commitments? Why are they expending the limited effort on trying to undo commitments made for something 7 years from now, whereas the economy is already on fire, like now and needs intervention.
I really don’t understand what is even the point of stirring up this shitfest on climate commitments? Why are they expending the limited effort on trying to undo commitments made for something 7 years from now, whereas the economy is already on fire, like now and needs intervention.
Because taking serious action on the economy is hard and requires the government to acknowledge that:
1. Brexit is a pile of shite
2. Austerity isn't working
3. All this has happened on their watch
SO is never going to happen.
Playing culture was games and messing about with fringe issue related to drivers is easy. Its not surprising, what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
Running striaght to the tory position. " we would do the same but better" as in every other labour policy
Running striaght to the tory position. ” we would do the same but better” as in every other labour policy
Yeah more than likely, depressing isn't it.
Its not surprising, what will be interesting is seeing how Labour respond.
stick with the current arrangements.
Labour's shadow chief secretary to the Treasury Darren Jones says the party is committed to banning sales of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030.
Speaking to LBC, he said: "We supported the 2030 target when the Conservatives introduced it into Parliament".
He went on to confirm that Labour would bring back the target to 2030, should the Conservatives move it to 2035, if they win the next general election.
though no position survives first contact with a focus group ! 😉
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66863110 Pushing back petrol car ban a bad idea, Ford tells Sunak
Well done PM Sunak! Woohoo!
Bye bye Ford.
Helloooo Toyota.
It looks like Starmer is getting a curve ball now on carbon emission ...
It looks like Starmer is getting a curve ball now on carbon emission …
Hilarious. If that's a 'curve ball' then Starmer really is on the home straight. Everyone but a tiny few nutjobs is supportive of the effort to reduce carbon emissions. If Sunak really is going to base his re-election campaign on US conspiracist reactionary policies then they're looking at wipeout territory. Bring it on.
Well we now know who Rishi's statement this afternoon is aimed at...
Some absolute dimwit Tory MP - Jason McCartney - has just been on the radio saying that electric cars are only actually bought by 'virtue signallers' and anyway some American companies are still planning on continuing to build big V8 petrol engines
Yes Jason... we should really be basing the UK's environmental and business strategy on what Bubba from Shitsville Idaho wants to drive around in 🙄
Who votes for these utter morons?
Who votes for these utter morons?
Over 66% of people where I live and I would be very surprised if it goes under 50% in next election as it never has in last 30 years. Even in 1997 the tory ****er still got 50.6%
Yes Jason… we should really be basing the UK’s environmental and business strategy on what Bubba from Shitsville Idaho wants to drive around in 🙄
I think you'll find Shitsville is in West Virginia, it's twinned with Dudley.
Some absolute dimwit Tory MP – Jason McCartney – has just been on the radio saying that electric cars are only actually bought by ‘virtue signallers’ and anyway some American companies are still planning on continuing to build big V8 petrol engines
Ahh good old paper-thin Jason. In the period he lost the Colne Valley seat he was some sort of political fixer/ public-affairs twonk for Huddersfield University - I work in sustainability and in a 1-on-1 with me he was saying how climate change was the biggest threat we have and that he was going to support us to make the changes needed... blah blah blah
He regained his seat and has consistently voted against climate measures needed. Including peat restoration when his constituency includes marsden moor
Over 66% of people where I live
Have you ever considered moving? It clearly hasn't had a positive effect on you. 😉
i think Sunak is just throwing out random hard right culture war policies to dee if any nove the dial on the polling
if the Tories lose all the coming byelections Sunak will only get more desperate, expect bringing back the death penalty, banning metric measurements, national service, closing the bbc or some combination of them all
The snivelling turd.
If he thought that eating his own granny would get him a couple of more votes he'd be off to her's this afternoon with a big pan.
This country has never ever been more in need of a general election - its sickening how they are allowed to carry on ruining everyones future with impunity
he's probably looking to cash out some BP and Shell stock in the near future so is looking for a price bump.
Have you ever considered moving? It clearly hasn’t had a positive effect on you.
I love living where I do. Very quiet area, own a lovely cottage, nice roads to ride on, lots of gravel roads.
The problem is that a lot of nice areas tend to be expensive and expensive can equal tory ****ers but I just deal with that by ignoring them.
And can you stop it with the positivity shit, I am generally not a positive person, some people are like that - we can't all be as optimistic as you are.
The problem is that a lot of nice areas tend to be expensive and expensive can equal tory **** but I just deal with that by ignoring them.
There’s a lot of tories in Galloway but I deal with them by showing my displeasure by having a sticker on my front door and car rear window that states “**** the Tories”